Moving the bathroom upstairs, and staircase to the side
Alex Jones
5 years ago
Hello, we have just found a victorian terrace property we’d like to put on offer on. However, we aren’t sure how much it would cost to move the bathroom to the first floor whilst trying to keep bedroom two as large as possible to change to the master (current is a very space restricted loft conversion). We also feel we may need to move the stairs to the side - I’ve also heard this is quite costly. Would anyone know what costs would be involved, or if there would be other recommendations for the layout? And would we have to appoint an architect? And advice would be really appreciated! Thank you in advance.
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Comments (16)I hadn't thought about putting the girl's room along the back. Hmmmm. I'll work on that and see what it does. As for the entire house plan, I have a picture that I've been working off of. I don't have the entire plan in my computer. I have obviously made some changes but you can get a good idea of layout from this pic. Changes I have made to this plan that are not noted: -moved dining wall over to get more space in master -lined up school room with dining making the option available to extend the table a bit if needed. -Cut kitchen down and moved exterior back door over -kitchen layout is a bit different. I'm actually pleased with the kitchen layout. Now I'm just working on finishes and I might check in about cabinet/drawer sizes later. -the "pantry" in the mudroom hall is now a music room entering from the living room. -I did keep a few feet in the mud hall out of the music room for an extra fridge and a small closet for the music room. -the mudroom is not a laundry. The laundry is in the master. I wanted that laundry as a laundry closet in a little hall going from the master bath to the master closet, but I think it's going to be in the closet as we had to cute some square footage. So the mudroom is just a big space to put the many coats, gloves, hats, boots, shoes, snowsuits and any large kitchen items I rarely use. -the stairs are one foot closer to the front door. This allowed more space upstairs for a wider hallway. I also made the stairs 1 foot wider taking space from the master as well as a bit from the foyer. -The closets in the bottom right corner of the master are all one room entering from the master. It's for little children we don't want sleeping upstairs just yet. I figure later I can use it as an office, library or big closet. -I talked to the builder about the size of the master shower. Hopefully the space I made by cutting the kitchen and dining will help with that. Otherwise I might nix the large bathtub. -Ignore the drawing I made in the upper right. I was just thinking about school room furniture. :) That's all the changes I can think of....See MorePossible to move bathroom to the other end of kitchen?
Comments (15)Thanks, I had planned to put one up, but was having trouble getting my program to export anything with the grid. Here is a screen shot, not sure if this helps enough. The house is a 1910 four square that was converted to apartments in the 1940's. We live on the main floor and rent out two apartments upstairs. The powder room was apparently added where the stairs originally went to the basement landing (it was probably an open staircase) There may have had a very small tub at one time under the angle for the stairs above, but has been replaced with a cabinet, The front stairs really don't get used except when tenants move larger furniture in or out, but they are over the top of the basement stairs, so can't really be removed. The more narrow back stairway was added during the conversion for the tenants to enter. We have lived with the tiny 5x6 bath for 16 years and just want a larger shower and some storage. Maybe we have just adapted, but the bathroom being remote doesn't work too bad for us as we have very different schedules, and don't wake the other when getting ready. The hot tub is also right outside the side door, so it is handy to rinse off without dripping through the house. The current bath is also due for updates to the drain and supply lines, so there is going to be some cost even if I stay in the current footprint. I will try to post a couple of the other plans with a grid as well. Thanks!...See MoreHelp with upstairs bedroom/bathroom layout
Comments (6)Sounds like a good idea. Now, consider one sink instead of two. They will almost never be in there at the same time, and even if they are they'll be bumping elbows as they brush teeth and mousse hair. But they do each need their own storage space for orthodontia and "health and beauty aids". So one sink gives them more counterspace and more drawer storage, one whole bank each. Would you have a window? Even a high window for privacy over the toilet would still bring in natural light. in bedroom 3, consider either taking the closet to the wall, or swapping the bookshelf/desk space to the other side. I worry that tucked in the corner a desk will become a dumping ground, and bookshelves would be tucked deep, not so conducive to book-browsing....See MorePossible/realistic to add upstairs bathroom away from plumbing stack?
Comments (15)Btw, I searched for relevant codes and found the following: R304.1 Minimum area. Every dwelling unit shall have at least one habitable room that shall have not less than 120 square feet (11 m2) of gross floor area. R304.2 Other rooms. Other habitable rooms shall have a floor area of not less than 70 square feet (6.5 m2). Exception: Kitchens. It also states: In typical houses, all living, sleeping, eating or cooking areas qualify as habitable spaces. Bathrooms, toilet rooms, closets, halls, storage or utility spaces aren’t defined as habitable, for any dwelling. But anyway you slice it, even with the remodeled floorplan the upstairs certainly meets the minimum requirements. The master bedroom is a little over 120 sq ft, and the second bedroom is over 70 sq ft (approx 90 sq ft). Even if the master bedroom didn't quite meet 120 sq ft, other habital areas such as the downstairs living room is well over 120 sq ft, so it'd just need to exceed 70 sq ft, which it certainly does. The only codes I could find regarding bathrooms were ceiling height (which wouldn't be an issue) and minimum distances between toilet, sink, shower and tub: A minimum space of 21 inches must be planned in front of lavatory, toilet, bidet, and tub. A minimum space of 24 inches must be planned in front of a shower entry. The minimum distance from the centerline of the lavatory to a wall is 15 inches. The minimum distance between a wall and the edge of a freestanding or wall-hung lavatory is 4 inches. The minimum interior shower size is 30x30 inches or 900 square inches, in which a disc 30 inches in diameter must fit. A minimum distance of 15 inches is required from the centerline of a toilet and/or bidet to any bath fixture, wall, or other obstacle. I don't see a problem with meeting any of these (depending on size of tub or shower, toilet, sink, etc.), which is why the plumbing issue seems to be the sticking point to me....See More
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