Which Fertilizer to go with?
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Comments (8)Not all composts are created equal. If it is made with manure, and lots of it, then it wiil be rich in nutrients. but if it is made with leaves and grass clipping.. it won't be as rich. If you have an established garden rich in organic mater, and you keep adding more compost every year, probably you won't need additional fertilizer for most garden veggies. Your plants (veggies, flowers) will mirror what is in the soil. Example: 1- you do not water them too much but why they are pale green? --- the plants do not have vigorous growth. They seem to ------be just hanging in there. Diagnosis: Most probably not enough Nitrogen 2- The plants are lush, dark green and growing like cazy, but very little or no flowers/fruits. Diagnosis: Too much nitrogen , and possibly not enough phosphorus and or potash. There can be many scenarios. So my tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, Flowers.. tell me what is going on. Of couse, nothing can beat a good soil analysis. But You need that when you first start a garden. AFter a couple of years things become a routine, your plants mirror soil data to you. I do use both compost and chemical fertilizer, like: just nitogen, just phosphorus, just potash and all purpose triple 10-10-10 or similar. I do it little bit at a time and do it more often. I do not feed "P" to my vegetable that don't need to bloom or seed. They get just "N" and "K". Also when my peppers, tomatoes start flowerin I do not feed them "N". Whatever is in soil is enough. But insted feed them "P" and "k". If in doubt, just sprinkle some triple 10....See MoreWhich would be the better n fertilizer: alfalfa tea or guano?
Comments (9)I agree that your main focus should be on increasing the organic matter percentage. A couple inches of compost (if you have a free source for it) over the soil or this fall a layer of lawn mower chopped leaves should do it. Nitrogen is a tricky thing. As you are aware too much makes for vigorous plants, but not much yield (except for plants grown for foliage). Initially the corn meal will supply ample N to everything, but keep your eye out for the green foliage of your plants to lighten. As this happens my first choice would be fish emulsion, but the two choices you mentioned would also work fine. I don't know what your experience level with gardening is, but assuming you have grown veggies before you can generally spot an N deficiency by slower growth (than you are used to seeing) followed by lightening of foliage. It is almost always correctable before any loss of yield or health occurs so don't be in too much of a hurry to add it. Liquid sources of N like teas from N containing ingredients or fish emulsion work within days in warm soils....See MoreAre You Going To Try A New Fertilizer This Season?
Comments (48)When I lived in TN I used mainly Mills Magic Mix (which was "local") and sometimes Rose Tone. Ingredient for ingredient they are much the same. I favored the MMM - I think it did a better job in the clay soil (for which it was designed), but that is an opinion, nothing scientific. Also, Rose Tone changed its formulation the third year I had roses to make it much closer to the MMM forumulation. The contents of MMM was much under discussion here on the forums during that time and I compared lables on everything in the market. Here, in NC, with no ready, relative inexpensive supply of MMM, a strong, willing DH and a nearby Southern States, I do it myself, much like rjlinva. I buy the bags of alfalfa meal, cottenseed meal, fish meal etc. and feed from my own "mix". We can get compost $20 for a ton and have a trailer that will haul 3 or 4 yards (depending upon how wet it is). The first roses went in the ground here in August 2005 and I've been adding new beds a couple each calendar year, so I'm doing a lot of soil amending. I have been adding the compost to the 'established' beds once a season, the newer beds are getting it twice to help get the soil turned around. I thought I knew clay, but NC clay is different than TN clay. I'm sooo grateful for the ready and inexpensive supply of compost. I also use epsom salts in the spring. If I think a rose needs a pickmeup, I'll go with the liquid Ironnite or something like that. There are several brands of liquid food that do that well. I also keep a bottle of fish emulsion handy for that purpose. I have a couple of roses that seem to require a little more iron than the rest of the crowd - its easy to spot them when they get needy....See MoreWhich fertilizer for young fruit trees?
Comments (13)Anything composting around your plants can pull N from the soil until properly broken down. I mulch around my fruit trees with grass clippings maybe 3 or 4 times a year but my main reason is for a more natural way of weed reduction around the base instead of using sprays all the time. Another added benefit mulch has is it also attracts worms. The down side is, worms attract birds, so I avoid when fruit is ripening. Also when I do much I also add sheep pellets to help against the initial N reduction. & one thing I didn't see here, so I must mention is grass clippings can make the soil more acidic which is great for the Blueberries but not so much for my other trees, so to battle against that I just add a little dusting of lime also. Lime helps to neutralize acidic soil. Best advice though is educate yourself on the needs of each type of tree, & buy a soil testing kit. Once you know the soil is right for the trees you can then look at other reasons that may be causing problems. Every place around the world is going to be different so I enjoy experimenting with my trees to see what gets me the best results every year. Of course taking into account that you always have an, "on season" then an "off season"....See Morewhaas_5a
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