I have finished major part of the project, still need to fix small things like paint work on the wooden boarder, arbor over waterfall, rails, aquatic plants and fish. here are some pics; Mia, thanks again for the pump and filters, it is working great, lift lot of water. Thank you all for all those tips to make it happen. Here is a link that might be useful: Hot Bath Tub Water Garden

Hi Norma...it belongs or maybe belonged to a co-worker's sister...not sure if it sold yet. I'm pretty sure that she won't see your post anyway. Cindy's number is in the second post if you want to call her. Pam

This must be a regional thing because where I live (in the San Francisco Bay Area) a bathroom with a shower, sink and toilet is considered a full bath, not a 3/4 bath. My DH is a realtor and I confirmed this with him. I do think people here expect bathrooms that will be used by kids to have bathtubs, but master bathrooms are different. Adults just don't usually take baths. Maybe it's because we don't have time. I used to enjoy baths but haven't taken one in quite awhile. In an area which is prone to droughts, a large tub is wasteful. Even if water were plentiful, it also takes a lot of energy to heat the water for a bathtub. As people become more concerned about their carbon footprints and green building practices, the large tubs that were popular in the '80s and '90s may become obsolete. I had a friend who lived in a Victorian which had one bathroom on the second (bedroom) level with a lovely claw-foot tub and no shower. Her entire family bathed in a little shower off the kitchen, which was quite a trek from their bedrooms. To me, that really illustrates our society's preference for showers. So if you prefer showers to baths, skip the tub and go for that luxury shower.

@Janymoyer!! I just couldn't let go that a small master bath in our size of home is bad for resale. We bought this house because it was literally the only one that had enough bedrooms for our large family. It had been on the market quite a while. We've taken care of some of the many main reasons why we believe it sat for so long. It doesn't even look like the same house anymore, but it's not like we'll be redoing the master bath again in the next 20 years, so don't want to make a huge mistake now that will hurt us if we decide to sell it before that. I'm not sure why you edited to add the comment now about just donating our money to charity. I've seen people spend a lot more on bathrooms then we will spend even if we do it all. I'm just trying to be wise with our $$$, and trying to think about it from all aspects, while still ending up happy with the finished product and the feeling that we made the right choice considering everything.