You're the only one who can answer that question. If you prefer floribundas, then replace the HTs. If the HTs are healthy, then pot them up and contact your local rose society, someone will want to have them in their garden.

I don't know if you can make that judgment about HT vs Floribunda with the roses you have. I have Proud Land and Mr. Lincoln, and both are, well, not great performers. My Proud Land gives me about 5 blooms a year (have no idea why I haven't shoveled it), and Mr Lincoln I resigned myself and put it between two climbers - it has the height, and only takes about 2' diameter of space.

Grow the roses you like. If you have some you aren't happy with, easy enough to start over with ones that you may love.

Diane.. thanks for the idea!

I’m new to hybrid teas , only have a few but I quickly realized for my purposes , I don’t love them. If you aren’t going to cut them for a vase it seems they quickly open too far and are ugly. This is just my opinion! I love to see people’s photos of theirs ( why I tried some! ) but I happen to miss them at their good points quite often. I need to be more diligent about cutting them. I love floribundas and shrub roses ! If they don’t make you happy , pitch them !

I also prefer shrub/and floribunda roses...But its really up to what you like!

I like the handful of HTs I have, but they are not good for hedges or mass plantings I don't think.

I have mine intermingled with floribundas in 1 bed, and a couple others next to some climbers against a fence.

So, what I don't like about them is minimized by happy accident.

Can someone explain in layman's terms what the differences between Floribundas and Grandifloras are?

Can someone explain in layman's terms what the differences between Floribundas and Grandifloras are?

Sure. The real comparison is between Grandifloras (Gr) and hybrid teas (HTs). A Grandiflora is similar to a HT in habit and flower form, except that typically (not 100% of the time) Grs will bloom in clusters (or sprays or candelabras), where HTs will have one bloom per stem. I say "typically" because Grs can have one bloom per stem and HTs can have multiple blooms per stem. Queen Elizabeth was the first rose classified as "Grandiflora". Both HTs and Grs have more of an upright growth habit, but they can be "bushy". HT/Grs have the high-centered bloom that look like florist roses (most of the florist varieties are HTs).

Floribunda (F) blooms are typically fuller, and usually bloom more than one per stem (usually, because they can also bloom one per stem). They typically don't have the high center that HTs/Grs have, but they can, and many of them start to open with a HT-like form, then open full, with many petals. The plant form is usually bushier, and a bit shorter that HTs/Grs.

Disease resistance varies. In my area, HTs/Grs and Floribundas have about the same (no) resistance.

Interesting question. Your preference might be just for more disease resistance rather than for a different form. I raise this possibility because your Kordes Savannah is a hybrid tea (https://www.kordes.us/plants/savannah-sunbelt) and your Kordes South Africa is a grandiflora (https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.34109). So if I were you, I'd think about prioritizing disease resistance first and then considering other factors like bloom shape, color, frequency, etc.

For guidance on choosing disease-resistant roses for the Pacific Northwest, you might want to check out Nita Jo Rountree's book and 'Roses Without Chemicals' from your library or buy them. I've had a lot of luck in my garden with roses that were recommended in those books. My two cents, good luck!

Originally when David Austin’s came here, everyone went gaga over them, until people started reporting that they were developing blackspot here. David Austin then had to start creating hybrids with disease resistance. No reported blackspot problems in the UK. Then many years ago, a NYTs garden article started talking about Kordes roses. I paid attention & gradually started to change out my Austin’s for Kordes roses. The book, Roses Without Chemicals was written by the former curator of the NY Botanical Garden. It rates roses on 4 categories and the higher it is to 100 the better it is. The single page descriptions of roses & the pictures are worth the price of this book.

R pnwz8a: Other roses that have done well so far in my young Pacific Northwest garden with no synthetic sprays and only occasional organic sprays:

Wedding Bells (Kordes hybrid tea)

Bolero (floribunda)

Olivia Rose Austin (English)

Munstead Wood (English)

Beverly (Kordes hybrid tea)

Livin' Easy (related to the Easy Does It you like)

Madarin Ice (Kordes floribunda)

Florentina (Kordes climber)

Dark Desire (Kordes hybrid tea)

Like you, I have also had good luck with Julia Child and Summer Romance. It's been fun to discover these disease-resistant roses, most of which also have some nice fragrance too!

Many places are selling Kordes roses. The own root mail order companies are Heirloom Roses, Chamblees Roses, Roses Unlimited (you may have to call directly for ordering) & High Country Roses. Edmunds Roses sells grafted roses. Jackson& Perkins sells the ‘German Bred’ roses but look to see if they are own root or grafted. It should say it on the details. Star Roses recently received the Kordes stock from Newflora, so you may be seeing from Star more & more Kordes roses where you shop locally for roses. I would contact Star to ask if a specific rose you see is own root or grafted. HTH. And if you are looking for specific roses, get on their mailing lists for catalogs or do planning in December/January for ordering. Pretty much all companies have a safe to ship by date but if you want it earlier than that, you will have to contact directly the company. Most are accommodating.

R pnwz8a: I have found some Kordes roses at Lowe's and Home Depot this year, although they might be sold out by now. jazzmom516 has some great suggestions for mail-order companies. Another mail-order nursery for you to consider is Northland Rosarium in Spokane, which has reasonable prices and lower shipping costs for gardeners like us on the West Coast. The downside of their plants is that they're smaller, own-root starter plants, so they take longer to get to full size than the plants you get at Lowe's, Home Depot, or any other brick-and-mortar nursery in your area. Here is Northland's collection of Kordes roses for sale: https://www.northlandrosarium.com/collections/kordes-roses-1.

I just saw some red Kolorscape Kordes roses at Walmart for $7.50 clearance.

Perfectly healthy and large.

I find that own root take about a year to catch up to containerized plants.

jazzmom, I picked up Roses without Chemicals from my library and I'm so glad that I did. It's filled with really great information and will go a long way in future planning for my garden. Thanks for the suggestion!!