Older hybrid teas and floribundas
I am very fond of some of the older hybrid teas and floribundas and I have compiled a list of mine, would love to know which ones other members have.
1867 - La France
1935 - Peace
1952 - Chrysler Imperial
1954 - Queen Elizabeth
1954 - Tiffany
1958 - Pink Peace
1962 Tropicana
1964 - Mister Lincoln
1965 - John F Kennedy
1965 - Miss All American Beauty
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Buford_NE_GA_7A
8 years agoSara-Ann Z6B OK
8 years agolast modified: 8 years ago1967 - Bewitched
1968 - Angel Face
1972 -Fragrant Memory
1973 - Sunsprite
1973 - Perfume Delight
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Lynn-in-TX-Z8b- Austin Area/Hill Country
8 years agolast modified: 8 years ago
AquaEyes 7a NJ
8 years agolast modified: 8 years ago
nanadollZ7 SWIdaho
8 years agoSara, I've enjoyed looking at your collection of hybrid teas, noting the chronological order of these beautiful classics. I especially like Pink Peace--what a beauty, and that exquisite photo you took of La France. I think my favorite is still Peace for sentimental reasons. My dad grew it, and then my step dad. Peace was the only rose I recognized and knew about when I was nine or so. After WWII it held a special place in people's hearts--at least those who grew roses.
I only grow a few hybrid teas and all but one are newish. But my oldie is a goody, harking back to the 20s--Dainty Bess. Angel Face is my floribunda contribution, though Bernstein-Rose is getting older, too. Diane
Dainty Bess
Angel Face
Bernstein-Rose
Blue Bayou--forgot this one; maybe it's not old enough?Diane
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8 years agolast modified: 8 years ago
rosecanadian
8 years ago
dublinbay z6 (KS)
8 years agoI really admire your collection of "older modern classics," Sara. The bush pics of Pink Peace and Tiffany are especially attractive.
There was a time when I grew Peace and Pink Peace and Chicago Peace, plus Angel Face and Chrysler Imperial, but now I only grow 3 of the "older modern classics; Eutin, Double Delight, and Oklahoma. All of them, however, endure as beautiful roses.
Here are mine:
Eutin--this 1940 floribunda has followed me to every garden I've ever planted. I have 3 of them right now. Lovely, durable, and disease-resistant. Unfortunately, I have never been able to handle in photos its intense crimson red color.
Oklahoma--1963 HT. Mine always have weak necks that need to be propped up after a rain, but I love that dark red color.
Double Delight--another HT (1977) loved by nearly every rose gardener.
Kate
teka2rjleffel
8 years agoBuford_NE_GA_7A
8 years agojacqueline9CA
8 years agoI have a few old HTs which were in our garden when we moved in. Peace, Sutter's Gold, and Duet have survived, but Tropicana, Mr. Lincoln, and Cl La France and Chrysler Imperial have died.
Acquired a Cl Mme Caroline Testout in the neighborhood - love it. After that one my favorite is definitely Duet (Swim, 1960). Here is a pic:
Brittie - La Porte, TX 9a
8 years agolast modified: 8 years agoSara-Ann Z6B OK
8 years agosmithdale1z8pnw
8 years ago
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
8 years ago
titian1 10b Sydney
8 years agoI only have one old HT, Mrs Wakefield Christie-Miller. She does suffer from BS, but, so far, the milk spray is keeping it at bay this year
Trish
SylviaWW 9a Hot dry SoCal
8 years agoMy Pink Peace came with the house and is at least 45 years old.She gets better every year. I've planted and am enjoying Mister Lincoln and Don Juan. I've just ordered two more Oklahomas, since the one planted this year did so well despite drought and heat. My favorite mid-century, though, is Granada. Every bloom is different and all are wonderful. Here'sone of them.
Lynn-in-TX-Z8b- Austin Area/Hill Country
8 years agolast modified: 8 years agoAngel Face 1968
Chicago Peace 1962
Sorry, I was having difficulty editing my original post in an effort to add these.
Lynn
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8 years agoI have photos handy of these from my yard:
The Doctor, Howard & Smith, 1936
Fashion, Boerner, 1947
Poinsettia, Howard & Smith, 1938
September Morn, Dietrich & Turner, 1913
Fred Howard, 1952.
Sara-Ann Z6B OK
8 years ago
ozmelodye
8 years agoI was surprised to discover that most of my modern roses were bred and released between 1889 (Augustine Guinniosseau) and 1980 (French Lace) ....over 80 in fact. Here are photos of a couple.
Apricot Queen 1940
Thais/Lady Elgin 1954
fragrancenutter
8 years agoThese are reasonably old:
Crimson Glory
Papa Meilland
Blue Moon
Tiffany
Granada
Perfume Delight
Fragrant Cloud
Tipsy Imperial Concubine - some people say this is a tea rose others say it is actually an old HT bred in China. The bush certainly looks like a typical HT.
bethnorcal9
8 years agoI like many of the older roses. Here are some of mine...
ANVIL SPARKS - 1961
APRICOT QUEEN - 1940 - tends to be more pink than apricot
BEAUTE - 1953
BETTINA - 1953
CALICO - 1976
CONDESA DE SASTAGO - 1930
DAILY SKETCH - 1961
FEDERICO CASAS - 1931
LA JOLLA - 1953
OPHELIA - 1912
...so many more.... How I miss Vintage Gardens...
rosecanadian
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suncoastflowers
8 years ago
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