best white hybrid tea or floribunda rose
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Confused about floribundas vs hybrid teas
Comments (4)The hybrid teas are usually the long stemmed florist type blooms. BUT that's not a hard and fast rule as it depends a lot on the individual variety of rose. In your zone hybrid teas will generally be more winter tender and will need to be well protected to survive a WI winter but it can be done. And there again there are some varieties that are more winter hardy than others. Some varieties, both hybrid teas and floribundas, that have been hardy for me (even this winter, and remember I'm a zone warmer than you) are: Red Crimson Bouquet, good health for me Veterans' Honor, will black spot Oklahoma, does black spot Mauve Angel Face, always black spots Paradise, fairly good resistance Love Song, good disease resistance for me Peach/Apricot/Orange Sisters at Heart, fairly healthy Tuscan Sun, good resistance for me Granada, will black spot English Sonnet, fairly healthy If you're interested in a yellow my favorite is Julia Child. She's very vigorous and healthy and blooms ALL the time. I make no guarantees about disease resistance because that seems to vary a great deal from place to place. You might want to check out some of the Griffith Buck roses as well as the Canadian Explorers series as these roses were bred for colder climates....See MoreOwn root Floribundas, Grandifloras & Hybrid Teas?
Comments (25)Well, considering how much a fan of own-root roses here in my cold zone, this was an eye-opening exercise. I went through my entire alphabetical list of 800 or so roses, a majority of which are flori/HT/grandiflora roses, and noted any that I considered excellent on own roots. It turns out a lot of outstanding bloomers that I vaguely had considered floris or HTs were actually shrubs, and many of my best HTs were in fact grafted. Dang. I have a bad survival rate with bare root roses, but it looks like I should be cautious with the HT own root roses on a second round. My impression was that the floribundas weren't particularly bothered by being own root and very few of mine were grafted, but by far my best bloomers among the HTs tended to be the grafted ones. Who knew?? Here's my list of the definite prolific or otherwise robust roses in these categories: Floribunda: - prolific Bolero Floral Fairy Tale LavaGlut Mandarin Ice Grand Duc Henri Occhi di Fata Pinocchio Suni Louisa Stone/Guinevere Pillow Talk Brothers Grimm Fairy Tale Impatient Roman Holiday Alice Pat Champagne Moment Bad Worishofen/Pink Emely Eutin Hot Cocoa HTs Beverly Francis Dubreuil Cubana Comtesse de Segur Dames de Chenonceau Acropolis Aloha Headliner Nigrette (no worse than it would do grafted) Papageno Lafter Maid of Honor Spiced Coffee Golden Buddha Birthday Girl Grandif �" Paloma Blanca Paw Maw Lagerfeld Earth Song (extremely well) Mother of Pearl I ended up needing an honorable mention for the HTs, with roses that are robust and vigorous growers, but not terribly prolific or frequent rebloomers. I figure that can be true of any of the HTs and it wouldn't depend on them grafted or not, so for what it's worth here are the good HTs on own roots, for me: Peggy Rockefeller Karl Herbst Intermezzo (surprisingly hardy for a lavender Dot rose) Neptune Henri Matisse Careless Love Charlotte Brownell Harry G Hastings Madame Delbard Break oâÂÂDay Sophisticate I agree that Double Delight is a very weak grower under any circumstances, but virtually microscopic if own root (and I've tried several times). It refuses to die before lingering several years, but never thrives own root. Cynthia...See MoreHybrid Teas and floribundas
Comments (4)sysonby, beautiful photos of wonderful roses! I would wish that I could make it to Descanso or Huntington Gardens anytime soon... My favorites are September Morn and Bolero. SP has a beautiful form. I am just surprised that its color is not a light pink. Did you notice the strong fragrance that this rose is supposed to have? I am thinking for a longer time now about replacing some of my Iceberg roses with another white rose and Bolero seems to be just the perfect match, since I am looking for a smaller white rose in certain areas and one that is not mildewing so much. Thanks for posting! Christina...See MoreCane hardy hybrid teas and floribundas
Comments (23)JJpeace - we got off track and didn't respond to your question about whether everything but climbers and ramblers should be pruned back to the ground to encourage growth. I would actually advise the opposite in cold zones, since you want as much healthy cane as you can get to regrow the rose in the spring, particularly in HTs and floris where this is unlikely in zone 5 to start with. Think of the canes of roses after winter as batteries for the rose. It's stored energy that helps to jumpstart growth in the spring, and provides a lot more growth points for new canes to start from and grow larger in the season, rather than always having to restart from the ground each year. That's also the reason we aren't usually advised to pre-prune the roses in winter for cold zones, since many roses lose the ends of their canes to winter but will maintain some live cane halfway down if you keep as much of the original cane as possible. Wait till spring to prune, and then only as much as is dead or dying cane unless it's a particularly robust grower, in cold zones. Plenty of roses CAN regrow from the ground each year if necessary, but why make them do so if it's not needed? Some roses are too wimpy to regrow from the ground if they don't have surviving cane, and I don't want to risk it if it's not necessary. In warmer zones it may be necessary to do a more drastic prune periodically to take out old underperforming canes that are past their best life but that so rarely happens in our HTs and floris in zone 5 that it's not a good practice to rely on. The winter already kills off most of the canes anyway, so I celebrate and keep any healthy cane I can for as long as I can. The battery analogy also explains an odd pattern of growth you can get in roses that look like they've survived the winter but really haven't. You can get a rose to leaf out in the spring and then all of a sudden within a week or so die never to return in later spring. What may happen is that the stored energy in the canes was enough to jumpstart a little growth (i.e. battery operated power) but there wasn't enough root support or health in the canes below your new growth to sustain that growth (not enough gas in the tank). Hope that helps Cynthia...See Morecarolfm
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