We need all that stuff. This is how it looks right before I get in there and have to reorganize. We are a family of 9, and there are a lot of people in and out of most areas of our home on a daily basis. I forgot about Elfa. We have some Elfa left over from our other house. I'll get measurements and take them to them. I was planning on using our leftover Elfa for the other closets, but could definitely use it here.

Add a light in there.

Category Label Items

Get similar storage containers.

Clear containers, if visual person to see what's in containers

Store like items together

Store most used items in front on middle shelves

Here is some inspiration photos.

If need more storage, Add narrow storage shelving for only light small items. Avoid heavy or too much, so door hinge can handle it.

Yes to lighting!

Do the bins and baskets work for you?

I completely understand how an organized space doesn't stay that way for long with a bunch of people in the house! So the trick is to set it up so that it is obvious where things go, so everyone puts things away in the right place.

First, everything needs to come out. Purge old/never used.

As you put away, start with least-used things - those go in the hard-to-reach ends. Put like things together - one shelf for crock pots, roasting pans, etc. A crock pot would be easier to take out and put away at the end of the shelf than a basket. Same with paper towels - anything that's reach in and grab, as opposed to taking out a bin.

Things that get used a lot earn the "prime real estate" front and center.

Vertical dividers might help keep things from running together.

Once you get things the way you like - and that makes logical sense - make labels for the edges of the shelves, so anyone putting away a cooler knows where it goes.

Widen the doorway to open the entire space. Bifold doors allow better access and take up less space in the pathway when open.

If that is not possible, reorganize.

The appliances need to go on the lower shelves---and those shelves need to be spaced for the appliances(more/less height).

Not a fan of bins for canned/boxed supplies. Stacking cans/boxes neatly allows for more room and better sight identification. Air tight jars/plastic containers(with labels) for bulk stuff---flour/sugar/etc. Store tall items(cereal/etc.) on the ends/behind, short in the center/front.

I love the idea of making the entrance wider. We came from a home with a walk in pantry, so it's been quite the adjustment. I have room to make the space wider, but I don't know if I can convince my husband that's a good idea.

Staples include flours, some sugar, vinegars, and extras. Extra vinegars, soy sauce, baking stuff. I buy in bulk and at the discount grocery. We don't eat cereal or have any chips or stuff like that, as a general rule. I rarely have cans, make my own sauces (spaghetti, bbq). I do buy some things in cans, but very few. If we do have chips, they leave super fast. In theory, my bins only have one kind of thing in them, but it only takes a couple of weeks before they are in disarray. My kids are pretty good about putting things away, but not always. They range in age from 3 to over 20, so it varies on whether they can or if they even care to put things away the way they are supposed to.

I use both instant pots almost daily. Roasting pan, about once a week, but it doesn't fit in the cupboards. The bins work better than most other methods, but they still aren't ideal with so many people going in and out of the area. I'm interested in the idea of vertical dividers if they aren't super easy to move. I may be able to get my husband to move the shelving up/down, but I think it's not supposed to move.

This is awesome. I'm open to more suggestions. The pantry has been so awful for so long. Being able to use it rather than just shove stuff in a bin will be so much better.

The Kitchen Forum's Pantry thread may give you ideas:

https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/2401919/pantry-photos-pics-of-pantries

Another vote for opening it up and reframing. Except, if budget allows, I would do cabinet doors instead of bi-folds. Bi-folds will be a lot cheaper, probably, but will still obstruct the opening.

If you go with custom cabinet doors, then you will be able to open it up even higher than the current opening is, if you want. The tall shelves for things you don't use often, of course. Like ice cream freezers, etc. Might look a little weird but sense the location is back of the kitchen on the way to the laundry, it's a spot where function can trump form AFAIC.

Another option might be to remove the current shelves and install shelves on the sides, perpendicular to the current shelves. This would allow you to stand in the pantry facing each set of shelves. Compare the width of the pantry to the width of the sides to see if you would end up with more or less linear feet of shelving. I can't tell from the picture how deep the shelves could be or if they would be deep enough.

One option is a double full width door with ball bearing hinges. 8-10" shelves with return lip on the doors. The interior full width shelves can be 12" so things stay manageable. You will almost double your storage with everything easy to see.

I think the shelves are too short and deep, and that also adds to the darkness (stuff on an upper shelf casting shadows on the lower shelves. My recommendations would be 1) general lighting 2) change your shelves so the lower ones are full width, and they get narrower as you go up, allowing for better visibility (don't you lose things behind other things in the back?) and 3) consider changing them to wire shelves, also to increase the light. A lot of people don't like wire shelving, but I prefer it in a pantry (items that won't sit stable on wire shelving can be stored in baskets or trays on the shelves).

You need a bigger pantry and/or less stuff, and a wider door. Any chance to somehow remodel to locate pantry in kitchen?

First, widen the opening as much as possible and install two doors for better visual and physical access.

Second, install a couple of dual track shelving standards in the back of the closet. That will give you the freedom to change the distance between the shelves, and the width of the shelves, as needed.

Bi-fold doors are a last resort, when absolutely nothing else will work. Adding a light fixture to such a shallow space would help very little, if at all.

I’m emptying the pantry, but first I am taking my 9yo camping for two days. Will have pics when I get back.

We could possibly change this space, but my $ right now are being saved for flooring. I’m thinking that I might need to find space in the garage for some of the things in here, and maybe switch out some of the kitchen cabinet stuff with pantry stuff. It’s unfortunate it’s in such an out of the way place

Have fun camping.

Later when home.

This project is easy. No stress. 1 step at a time ;)

#1 Put lights in 1st. Immediate improvement.

If no electricity inside, get 2 battery strip light inside easy to reach to turn on.

Break time.

#2 move anything that can go in garage that is rarely used into garage.

Break time

#3 move daily used stuff to middle shelves.

#4 Take a photo

#5 Measure width / depth of shelves/ height of space between shelves & empty space now available on shelves. Decide if have too many tall items & if removing a shelf makes more functional. Remove if it does.

If possible, write measures on photo or draw a sketch with notes.

#6, choose 3 colors you enjoy togeather

#4,5,& 6 will when shopping for storage containers.

Take a break

#7 put painter tape labels on shelves for placing items , this helps avoid getting overwhelmed.

Take a break

#8 bring your measures & browse dollar stores & department stores for containers that make your list. Don't have to buy everything at once. Start by buying a few containers to put like small items together. Have fun with this process.

Repeat until done.

1 step at a time helps to avoid getting overwhelmed. Have fun. When ever the fun fades. Take a break, refresh. Continue.

Before reorganizing the pantry.

Add the lights.

Then consider painting inside a bright color that brings you joy.

Can you post the current dimensions? Since the pantry's interior extends past the door frames, can you turn this into U shaped shelves inside, with possibly varying depths on sides and back? Regarding lighting, Homepro01 recommended the Haiku light for ours and we love it. Here's [ours[(https://www.houzz.com/discussions/pantry-build-progress-dsvw-vd~4316965) with adjustable U shelves; exterior dimensions are 69" x 50" x 94". The back wall of shelves is 13" deep and the sides are 9" deep.

Have fun camping and good luck!

artistsharonva - I do love the colored interiors but wimped out when it came to pick a bold color for our space. For a decorative pantry, sure, with white dishes. For canned and dry good storage, not so pretty....

Suseyb, OldBat2B has an amazing pantry! She also makes good use of vertical dividers.

One of the hardest things about reorganizing a space is trying to put everything back in the same space, because that's where it's always been, NOT because that space makes the most sense. Relocating things you rarely use to a different room will make a huge difference for you. It's much easier to keep a pantry organized if there is less stuff in it.

12" deep shelves seem to be the "sweet spot" for storage...deep enough for cereal boxes and the vast majority of small appliances but shallow enough that things don't get lost in the depths.

Once you figure out what to do with your current pantry, think about supplementing your pantry space with shelves (& door) b/w the studs. The shelves will only be a few inches deep, but that makes it easier to stay organized!

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Some thoughts about bi-fold doors from experience....

"Bi-folds will be a lot cheaper, probably, but will still obstruct the opening"

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"They are annoying. They often come out of line, off their track, & most are cheaply made."

Not all bi-fold doors are cheaply made or get out alignment or fall off the rails, nor do they obstruct a wider opening. In fact, bi-fold doors don't need the walls and trim that regular doors need, so you actually have greater access to the pantry. We had them in our pantry for 13 years and never had an issue. They never fell off the rails, went out of alignment, etc.

What is nice is that if you want to leave one or both doors open (b/c you're putting groceries away or you want some ventilation), the doors don't take up that much floor or aisle space, unlike a regular door.

The only thing that I will say is that my kids did pinch their fingers in the fold a couple of times...but then they also closed regular doors on their fingers as well!

[We still have them in my kids' bedrooms and in the hall closet - it's been 23 years now and still no issues with any of them. Our house was builder-grade (until we started upgrading the downstairs about 10 years ago), so I'm sure we do not have expensive doors!]

Aesthetically, I prefer a regular door; but functionally, especially in a small place, bi-fold might be better.

Here's one...

100 Square Foot Kitchen Remodel · More Info

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I had my built in my kitchen reno, and I put in pocket doors. I love them! I think I've only closed them once; typically they stay open and I move freely from kitchen to pantry (mine is a walk in, almost 5' x 7').

Not all bi-fold doors are cheaply made or get out alignment or fall off the rails, nor do they obstruct a wider opening. In fact, bi-fold doors don't need the walls and trim that regular doors need, so you actually have greater access to the pantry.

Bi-fold doors that do not obstruct the opening use 'full access' hardware components which DO require traditional jambs because the doors are side hinged. When you have jambs, you must have trim to stabilize the jambs. Otherwise, they will twist, bow, warp and just generally go squirrely.

Aside from that, in OP's situation, doors without trim would look very much out of place in her house.

Well, mine are all top hinged and we had full access...except maybe 3" or so of space taken up by the doors. I'll look for a picture to show you what I mean.

ETA: From my old Kitchen

"Aside from that, in OP's situation, doors without trim would look very much out of place in her house."

I'm not sure about that...if you look closely at her pictures, it looks like she has windows without trim - just a sill, just like I do.

The only doorways with trim in my house are those that have a "standard" door, all others are "trimless", including the doorways with bi-fold doors.

My house was built in 1995 -- that's what the production builders were doing then.

Well, mine are all top hinged and we had full access...except maybe 3" or so of space taken up by the doors.

Those 3" that the doors take up inside the opening makes those 'limited access' bi-folds.

'Full access' bi-folds are hinged to a jamb and swing entirely outside of the opening.

http://www.johnsonhardware.com/1601-full-access-bi-fold-door-hardware

it looks like she has windows without trim - just a sill, just like I do.

The house we owned before this one was like that. Drywall returns. I never warmed to the look although I think it is OK with modern/ contemporary style. But then I am a minimalist with window coverings so untrimmed window openings looked unfinished to my eye. Saves the builder a boatload of money by reducing the trim package and associated costs in time and for trim carpenters and more detailed painting, etc. Doesn't work at all with traditional styling, IMO, unless you're someone who is into a lot of drapery and are going to cover it all up anyway. Then again, probably in the eyes of the beholder and what you're used to seeing.

Oh gosh, ya'll were busy while I was gone. Just an aside, I was not excited about this camping trip, but I figured it would be ok. My youngest had a stomach virus at home, so I was kind of glad that I was gone until the one I was with ON THE TRIP, started to vomit in the middle of the night. We were hammock camping, and she ended up sleeping under the hammock. It ALSO rained. LOL We came home early, and I've been tending sick kids. The youngest is better, but the camper is still under the weather.

Interior measurements are as follows:

55" width

27.5" depth

door space is 24"

the shelves are 15.5" front to back

I will likely have more $ to spend if I don't have to increase the space of the pantry. However, I do have some space to bump it out.

Now, I'm going back to re-read all the posts. All the inspiration pics are wonderful! I wish I had seen OldBat2B's when I did the pantry in my former house. It would have been so much better. I think this is going to be sooo helpful.

Here is the space it’s in the “hallway” between the laundry room, kitchen, and dining area.

Suseyb, since you mentioned upthread that you're saving for new flooring, I want to remind you that if the new flooring is intended for the area where the pantry is...

That, if you're contemplating opening up the pantry wall, good idea to do that before new flooring is installed so you're not trying to patch in flooring after the fact.

ci_lantro Thank you for that reminder. I am really, really hoping to do it in the space we have. I am trying to figure out sketchup to see if I can draw out a pantry. I had kids come down with a tummy bug, so I've had some time to practice while I was up all night. :)

Everything is out of this closet, and I have been culling things we don't need. Goodbye Kuhn Rikon pressure cooker I never use!

I painted the back wall today. My husband thinks we should paint the shelves yellow, too. What do you think?

Btw, this is Sherwin Williams lemon twist.

It is a much more vibrant yellow in person.