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wolf ag vs bluestar and cleanup, my DW wants the real scoop
Comments (30)We have had our BS RNB 30 for about 5 years now. I have occasionally wondered if I wouldn't have been happier with a Wolf, but overall I have been pleased with the Bluestar. Here's a short list of what I like...and don't like: Like: The huge oven and the way it bakes. I'm so glad I didn't buy a dual fuel or self cleaning oven. When I was looking at ranges, I asked a pastry chef friend of mine if I should get a dual fuel. She snorted and said, "What do you think they use in restaurant kitchens?" The answer would be gas. I bake lots of cakes and they come out beautifully. I have convection, but I rarely use it. The baking is very even without it. I was accustomed to cleaning electric ovens, which is a pain. Cleaning this one is incredibly easy. You can just pop out the bottom panel and clean it...or clean it in place. The open burners (I have never seasoned the grates and I throw them in the dishwasher.) The open burners have a lot of power and if I spill something, which I often do, it just goes in the flat pan below, which is incredibly easy to clean. The lack of fancy electronics. I specifically wanted a gas stove so we could cook in the event of a power outage. The power went out once when I was in the middle of cooking dinner. I was able to proceed as if nothing had happened. What I would change: I would like to have wheels on the range, so I can easily pull it out to clean the floor. I think Wolf has those? I would very much like to see better customer service. I had to replace the ignition module (we did it on our own) and I could never get BlueStar people to return calls so I could order the part. I ended up ordering from AllVikingparts.com and following the very useful instructions by people on this forum. I would like to see more attention given to fit and finish. It would seem that the structure that supports the iron grates is not strong enough. As a result, our grates don't sit quite level anymore. I had to re-order a burner knob because the numbers were all coming off, even though I had never scrubbed it or used harsh cleaning agents. When I received the new one, I noticed that the numbers (which are silk-screened on the knob) come off easily with a light scratch of the finger nail. And since there are no indentations for the numbers, once they're gone, they're gone. Also, the new knob didn't quite fit. I called Bluestar about this and they promised to send a return call tag. They never did, and I eventually chiseled away at it a bit so it would fit. I don't know how the customer service is at Wolf, but at Bluestar it's abysmal. The only upside is that hopefully you won't need them often. The only other thing I constantly want with the Bluestar (and I don't know if other stoves have this either) is variable adjustments in the rack placement. This is particularly the case with broiling, where I often feel like the top rack position is too close, but the second one is too far away. In short, I like the stove and I'm not sorry I bought it. I'm just sorry to see that the company doesn't support their customers the way they should, particularly since GardenWeb seems to have done most of their marketing for them....See More$1200 DW: KA Architect II kudh03dtss vs Miele Inspira II g2142sc
Comments (11)You know, they're both fine DWs. The important thing is, they load differently. Have you taken a 'sample box' in to an actual display where you can see if odd-sized dishes and pots/pans/casseroles/baking sheets will fit? I was perfectly open to buying a Miele, KA or F&P Dishdrawers. But when I tried to fit really big items or thick potteryware - the KA was the only one that was going to work for me. My KA is a different model but has the Pro Wash. On mine it works only in the 2 back rows on the bottom rack, with items facing in reverse (towards the back rather than towards the front). It works really well - I do a lot of cheese-encrusted casseroles and it gets the casserole sparkling clean - but there's a couple of things that are just a little too tall to fit in easily. I've noticed here that many people discuss the right detergent to use with the Miele. It seems a little fussier about that than the KA, I'm not sure why. I know that for DWs without food grinders it's important to use the enzyme-based detergent. THe only detergent I've had a problem with on the KA was a 'green' brand that was just awful. Otherwise I've used powders and gels of different brands, and they've all worked just fine....See MoreDW: 2 Bosch vs 1 Miele??
Comments (5)This is great feedback. Thanks everyone. Looks like I should be able to get two Miele's for around $2K. I don't need a lot of bells and whistles, especially with such a high quality machine - I assume they are excellent in cleaning, which is the main job we all need a DW to do. I do need panel-ready DWs. Does anyone know if the Classics are available in panel-ready?...See MoreMiele vs. Bosch dw - two questions
Comments (17)I find this quite curious. Both brands are working within the same space constraints: namely 24" (or 60cm) width x 34 1/2" height. At the end of the day the interiors are pretty close to even in total size. Sure one will be bigger or smaller than the other in volume, but really one plates' worth of size is going to swing your decision??? The racking layout will have the biggest effect but only in relation to your specific tablewear and how you choose to nest things. I don't think it's as easy as saying "brand x has a larger capacity, so I'll buy it ". Who measures the capacity ? Is it with a tape measure or with real dishes ? DO they use the same dishes that you do ? FWIW - I have both brand of DW's and a Fisher Paykel drawer too. They all have their strong points, and my dishes ,glasses, pots, and silverwear all fit in each one....See More- 8 years ago
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