Thanks for your input, Joe. You were on the right track... my mystery plant has been identified over at the Cactus and Succulents forum as Corpuscularia lehmannii, syn. Delosperma lehmannii. Thanks everyone, for your comments. They were very helpful and appreciated. Regards, seedmoney

I think the last one *is* a Leibnitzia after all, just not positive it's anandria. A couple of weeks ago, a "blossom" shot up straight as an arrow several inches above the still very low plants, then another "blossom." So I waited to see what would open up. I was surprised to see (eventually) a bit of a fluff ball there... like a tight dandelion seed head... that was a definite characteristic of the Leibnitzia, but the leaves do not seem the same to me. Today the fluff head (only one remains, the other didn't make it somehow) is in full puff and there are fat seeds there. I had time to investigate more, and I wonder if this is Leibnitzia lyrata, "Seeman's sunbonnets." Hard to find info on this, but finally found something here: http://seinet.asu.edu/images/vasc_herbarium_images/Asteraceae/herbarium_sheets/Aster_Leibnitzia_seemannii201253.jpg Kind of a dead-looking specimen there, mine has very dark green leaves, but I think it's the same thing. Have not found a picture of the bloom yet, but I apparently missed it. Some of the pictures on google images of L. anandia have leaves similar to mine but not exactly, but I'm learning leaves don't mean everything. It would have been nice if I'd seen the bloom but I didn't. Oh well, hopefully this will come up again next year (it's listed as perennial in Arizona; we'll see if it's perennial *here*) and maybe I'll catch it then. The seeds (15 of them) will be sent along with one of the big group swaps I participate in this year, in case anybody is interested in something a little out of the ordinary. :] Terri

Thanks all for your thoughts. If only it were a self seeded peony! In So. Cal! I could charge admission. Believe me, I went through my peony phase. The containers, the icing. No peonies. I know it looks a little like peony poppies, but it's way leafer, greener and not like the peony poppies I grew years ago. More like a coneflower, for sure. That's what I was holding out for when I potted them up last fall. But they are not at all as stiff and hairy as echinacea. Daisy like? Yep. There's something familiar, and it's not acting like a weed, but rather a perennial or biennial. I'm waiting on the flowers and will keep you posted!

No, not Forever Pink...Could be one of any number of H. serratas. The fact that it is blooming for you in zone 5 should help to narrow it down some....Blue Billows is a cold hardy one but I'm not serrata savvy enough to make a positive ID. Whatever it is, it sure looks lovely in that setting...yg