Did you put a landline in your build?
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Comments (14)We built in MN and moved in about 1 1/2 years ago. Two story plus full basement walkout. We have 2 Econar geothermal units, one hydronic and one forced air with 8 - 1,000 ft horizonal loops. The hydronic pumps water for the radiant floors in the garage slab, basement slab, upstairs bath, master bath, 1/2 bath and mudroom. The forced air unit is for all other areas and provides A/C in summer. Our insulation is closed cell spray foam and it's awesome. I wanted to wait to see how the humidity was in winter and it was around 25%, which is too low. So I'm looking at adding a Honeywell Truesteam humidifier that will add water directly into the ducts and is controlled automatically by the thermostat with an outdoor sensor. I did all the underside-of-the-floor mounted radiant pex tubing (and accompanying insulation) myself as well as the floor insulation under the slabs. It's critical that you have a thermal break between the concrete and the ground. I used 2" XPS (rigid pink foam board insulation) on the ground and taped all joints. I also used a reflective bubble-wrap type insulation around the perimeter walls and interior footings. No concrete touches the ground at all. You mentioned carpet in the basement. As long as your installer knows what flooring you're installing, he can change how close together he puts the pex tubing loops. For carpet the loops will be closer together to create more heat. Geothermal is very quiet. The fan is on all the time so it doesn't come on like a jet engine and shut off all the time like propane or natural gas. Quiet, steady heat. In the summer there is no condenser outside and thus it's silent. Love it....See MoreDid you dislike your shingles when they were first put on??
Comments (11)Oh, superchick, we were not happy at all when we first saw our shingles. We had chosen a Tamko Heritage shingle without seeing a sample (didn't have it in this area) so we had to order them after looking at them on the internet. The lumber yard called my DH and said they couldn't get our color in the 30 yr, but could in the XL. The day the roofers started, we drove over to the house with such anticipation! When we pulled in the driveway, we were so disappointed because all we could see was red! We spent that evening going in and out of the house, hoping we would like them more each time we saw them. I posted a message here and on the paint forum with a picture asking for exterior color advice and got this great message from funcolors: "The roof is not your typical neutral roof color selection. However, it could be fabulous with the right colors on the body and trim. A serendipitous roof color choice." After looking up the exact definition of serendipitous, which means making a fortunate discovery by accident, I began to think of new and different ways to paint our Hardiplank. We came up with a completely different color scheme than we had intended to use but I think it will be really pretty. And, in the meantime, the roof has been completely finished and we are really happy with it now. So, give this some time and let your eyes adjust to the new colors. Then be open to something different on your exterior. I hope your roof turns out to be serendipitous too! The link below shows our roof at the beginning stages and the Hardiplank is still not painted yet! Susan Here is a link that might be useful:...See MoreGeothermal Groundloop - Where did you put yours?
Comments (9)Ha! Think I've seen that picture before, but it still makes me laugh!! Some people just have a fountain in their front yard and a couple flower pots on the porch! ha! What a great visual..... HHmmmmm.....Thanks for the input about the vertical loop. It appears that most all of the discussions that I've read on here have discussed vertical loops - not horizontal. This was not an option that was presented to us. Will pick up the phone and ask more questions in the morning. So that I can go in "armed and educated," can any of you tell me .....would we need the same amount of linear feet if we went vertical, or is that figured using different calculations?? Well depths in the area are only about 275 feet. So, would we be talking about drilling several shallower holes?? And what about the cost of drilling vertical versus the cost of trenching horizontal?? Anything else that I should be aware of before I start stirring the pot?? Again, thanks for your shared wisdom!...See MoreDid you have a land line put into your kitchen?
Comments (70)What a fascinating thread! It was like traveling back in time. I had NO idea this many people still use or have landlines! Or that so many places in the U.S. don't get cell reception! So, a few things about me. I have always lived on the west coast. Since the age of 13 I have always lived in a major metropolitan area, yep, I'm a city girl! :-) I'm 55 now. I haven't had a landline since 1998, and have never once wished I did. Oh, I should probably mention that I really dislike talking on the phone, except with a very few relatives and my best friend. And fax and answering machines? OMG NO! LOL!! I have had to fax something twice in the past two decades, both to the east coast. I went down to Staples and faxed. Both times together cost less than $5. I would never consider an answering machine. I'm about to dump my voice mail. We have a saying here, "Friends don't let friends leave voice mail." If you want to tell me something, text it. My kids and friends text, so the only voice mail I get is from businesses, like reminder calls from my doctor. I almost never have my ringer on; I see my texts come up on my iPad or computer, and I check them maybe once a day, unless it's my kids or best friend. Clients for my business contact me via email, and for my business that is the usual protocol. I have unlimited talk and text and it's not that expensive. I pay $20 a month to be able to talk for an hour to people in Zambia. And I have a good data plan because I use it all the time on my phone or iPad when I'm away from my home. The house I just bought is out in the tulies! 20 minutes from downtown Spokane, which is not a major metropolitan area in my book (but don't say that out loud here or you'll be verbally whiplashed! Lol) I lived in that house for the entire month of September as a house guest, so I have ascertained that it has very reliable internet and cell phone coverage. I would not have bought it if it didn't. I don't have a TV or want one. If I want to watch something, I can get it on Amazon, YouTube, or PBS on my computer. We don't have the kinds of natural disasters people in other parts of the country do. If I lived in an area that had hurricanes, tornados, massive snow storms, earthquakes, then I'd definitely consider a land line. But I always keep my cell charged up, and my iPad too. I also have one of those portable battery chargers and will probably get another one. One person mentioned above that her gas range kept the neighbors in hot meals during a power outage. That's one of the reasons I'm getting a wood burning stove. My joints don't like it when I get cold (arthritis)! The house will stay warm and I can heat up food with a wood burning stove. (The other reason is to save money on the power bill.) One of our fellow commenters, Sophie, mentioned a generator. I'm going to look into that, but I think it will be too expensive for my budget. And if I use up all the portable chargers, I can charge my phone and iPad in the car, if I can get to the car. And if the roads are usable, I can go charge stuff up anywhere. Interestingly, third world countries that are greatly expanding phone service are doing so with cell phones. China, for example, will never have to bear the expense of stringing phone lines all over the country. In Zambia, cell reception is excellent, but landlines are unreliable. Cell towers are cheaper than phone lines. My dad was born in 1919. When he was in high school he was on the debate team. One year the topic was: Rural electrification: should the government pay to have electricity brought out to rural areas? My oh my how times have changed! :-)...See MoreAnglophilia
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