I agree about what Lucille has said. Rosy has only had her first set of shots last week. Its another two weeks until she has the rest plus a few weeks until she protected from these things. Shes very tiny and was sent to me on the worst canned dog food on the market and adult to boot. I'm trying to wean her off this junk as fast as possiable. Right now rather than concentrate on her outside socialization were concentrating on her health, safety around the home and Little Lil who has decided the puppy is not allowed near her. Lots to do here right now. Besides the vet cautioned us its best to keep Rosy home and indoors for awhile. I clipped her nails and I clean one tooth daily as its not to soon to start this and she won't be scared when she's older. I would likd to get a puppy play pen. It has lots ofspace for her tiny bed, a potty pad area still giving lits of space to play. Its not to prevent her from running around here playing but in my opinion a more roomy space for night time or if we have to leave a few hours or when she just can't be watched. So I'm going to do some research on them. Been a busy few days around here.

The reason puppy shots are given in multiple sets is because maternal antibodies last different amounts of time. Too soon, and the shot does not work, too late, and the puppy is unprotected for a period of time. And as MP posted above, it takes several weeks for the puppy's body to fully respond to the antigens in the shot and produce antibodies.

Mamapinky, wouldn't it be neat if you and Paris Hilton went detergent shopping at the Mexican Grocers with your purse puppies?

Ava, Haha it would be hilarious. I'd need a bling bling purse and some super cute clothes, a manicure, pedicure, hair-cure...never mind too much work just for detergent. Lol

Never thought I'd hear you say 'just' detergent. lol

My sister had a tiny dog once.....I think 10 - 12 lbs. It was surprising how much it ate compared to a much larger breed. I think because they are so active and on the go constantly, they burn a lot of calories. Hope to see some pictures soon.

So glad to hear things are going okay for the new puppy. No discussion just tendering my best wishes for your DH's quick swift recovery.

I searched for 'the right thread', where you'd outlined your concerns, but failed to find it. Glad there's been a diagnosis and that there is A Plan. (I think *I* could benefit from a Full Body Scan; I'm sure *something* would be found amiss.)

Chisue. My husbands was found last winter when he needed a MRI of his back. They decided a xray of his eyes was in order since he did have metal in his eyes at one time. No metal was found just a growth. But ya I hear ya if I had a body scan it wouldn't be pretty. Lol

Bjorn, Thank You!

I must be missing something mama. Last winter they found a 'large mass" in his sinus behind his eye and they did nothing then. Wouldn't one think testing would be in order? Interesting that a Dr would find a large mass months ago and do nothing to identify it. Now here it is at least 6 month later and they are going to do something. No way would I let a large mass just sit there for months without finding out what it is. Very strange.

It would be strange if that's the way it was. It was my husband who refused to see the specialist. I have harped but he wouldn't budge. I'm very angry with him. He refused to get this taken care of but now that its growing he's willing to let the doctors help. No the doctors never ignored this my husband did. Nothing strange about my husband burying his head in the sand. I hope he hadn't buried it to far this time.

Mari, mamapinky owes no one any further explanations of anything to anyone and I hope she doesn't even try.

Some of you are like sharks sniffing out a blood meal.

You would think when you called his doctor to tell her about his change in personality a couple months ago she would’ve connected the dots and insisted he be seen right away. Instead she dismissed you, no? Gee whiz! I’d find a new PCP, STAT!

Maybe read my reply again rhizo. I did not ask her for an explanation. I made a comment.

Mari lane appears to be new here so I'm guessing she just doesn't know anything concerning the topic of MP's dh's health issues.

New for posting here but I have been a member for a long time. Like way back in the day when Stacy from OK (grinchgut) lost her house to a fire. Had to do a name change tho cause it wouldn't accept my name.

We’ve got a new puppy, an upcoming proposal and health issues figured out (I think, missed something there). Be happy! Something is weird, doesn’t make sense and is ridiculous? So what, happens to me all the time.

I don't even remember Stacys house burning but my memory is short and she also always had a lot of bad luck. She posted here a couple of years ago but not for long.

Men can be so stubborn when it comes to their health almost like if they don't acknowledge a problem, it will go away. Hopefully the proper treatment will resolve the issue. It is frustrating, I know, but there is only so much one can do.

@mamapinky - Thanks so much for the update on your DH's health. I know how worried and upset you were so I'm glad that there is a cause and now, as you say, you'll find out how to fix it and move on. I'm glad you were able to get him to the doctor. Best wishes to you all.

Rosy sounds like a real little firecracker. Never mind how you got her, she sounds like a real joy. Life can be such a circus sometimes.

Blfenton, Thank You. It wasn't easy getting Mike to the doctor lol. It was my son that managed to talk him into it after Mike admitted he thinks he's forgetting things. Lol. Anyway long story why things happened the way it has but I've learned my lesson on sharing to much. Lol. But Thank You for your Best Wishes...much appreciated.

Lol Firecracker suits Rosy to a T. she's also a love bug and loves my daughter completely which is what this was all about. Things are falling into place. Life has much more ups then it does downs thankfully.

I hesitated on asking for advice LOL but its puppy related so it might be ok.

I'm having problems with Little Lil. Shes not happy. She doesn't approach Rosy at all and when Rosy chases after Lil...Lil snarls and growls and runs away. We have made sure Lil is fed first played with first she's hugged and kissed a lot. We put Lil first with everything. I have had very little interaction with Rosy myself because I want Lil to adjust first. I can see Lil is sad when she watches others play with Rosy..its obvious even though they played with Lil first. Any idea what I should do, how to make this change in Lils life easier for her? Lil is my baby the love of my life. I don't like to see her this way. By the way there's no sharing of dishes, blankets, or toys. Rosy has her own things. Lil has never been exposed to other pets except once a friend stopped with their baby Chihuahua which Lil loved. Lil also has never bit anyone but I'm slightly nervous she may bite the puppy. She won't go after Rosy but Rosy won't stop chasing and jumping on Lil even after Lil tells her NO stay away. I ask the vet assistant about this...she told me since Lil isn't stalking Rosy I should just keep close watch. Either Lil will accept Rosy in her own way even if all she does is tolorate her being here or Rosy will learn to stop chasing and jumping on Lil. I'm also told Lil isn't an aggressive dog and most likely all she will ever do is snarl and growl and possibly nip Rosy. You expert dog folks probably have some great advice which is what I seek. Thanks.

Just give it some time. It hasn't been very long at all and it's a pretty big adjustment for Lil.

I think it will just take some time. I have two dogs, both small. The dog we had first growled at our new puppy when we brought him home. Now they are the best of pals.

Good luck. Hope Lil starts to accept Rosy soon!

I think you are doing everything right and sad as it is for you, Lil will adjust in time. Right now, she is probably feeling a bit threatened which is normal since she isn't used to being around dogs.

Just wanted to add, this is something you can't force, but it will happen.

They'll get used to each other...

You are doing everything you can. Worse case, this is how will be. Some animals never bond. They have their own personalities just as we do.

Hopefully though, given more time, she will adjust. Good luck.

Mamapinky0 - It's a bit late now, but whenever possible, I enlist someone's help to introduce the dogs in a neutral location allowing them to get to know each other. Do you walk Lil? If yes, taking them for walks together can be a good bonding experience.

I would contact a Trainor, or look up some Utube videos.

This may be a little bit out there - but Lil may also be feeling a little of the stress around everyone's concern about your DH. Dogs (and cats) are amazing in sensing changes around happiness, stress etc. (My DH has been away for a week and I have one stressed out unhappy kitty)

Just continue to reassure her.

Are you giving Lil a regular break from Rosy? It can be pretty annoying to have a puppy bouncing around you and trying to play with you all the time. Rosy needs to learn to respect Lil; hard to teach, though, I guess. When Rosy gets at Lil, supervised, of course, perhaps just remove Rosy and get her attention elsewhere, keeping her from bugging Lil. Rosy's just being an exuberant puppy, but I can certainly understand poor Lil's position.

I suggest you and Amiee take them both to obedience classes.

Some dogs don't care for puppies, in the way some adults don't care for young children. They may get along fine when they're older. I would supervise, and be ready to deal with aggression that is truly inappropriate and dangerous, but older dogs are teaching puppies boundaries. Just a growl and an air-snap is a signal for a puppy to learn to curtail certain of its hijinks. So, I wouldn't punish the older dog for that--because dogs will have their own pecking order and their own manners.

But if the older dog is chasing the puppy, or is relentless, and you can see it just won't work out, that's when you have to make hard decisions. It is possible to keep 2 dogs in the long term who hate each other. Dog trainers call it "crate and rotate", meaning that the 2 dogs can't be allowed to be together, which is very challenging when there are kids and a busy household. But honestly, I don't think you are there yet, because Rosy hasn't learned manners or dog-boundaries yet. It sounds like your older dog is trying to assert her authority over the puppy, and within reason, should be able to "train" the puppy, just like you will do.

I completely agree with Mrs S..... "older dogs are teaching puppies boundaries. Just a growl and an air-snap is a signal for a puppy to learn to curtail certain of its hijinks. So, I wouldn't punish the older dog for that--because dogs will have their own pecking order and their own manners."

Thanks everyone. Giving it time seems the best advice and the most logical.

Like I said Lil is not going after the puppy she stays completely away from her. Today I will make sure Rosy is crated or in another room with someone during play time with Lil because I throw Lils toy..Lil chases toy..Rosy chases Lil. Its actually quite cute but since Lil has made it clear she doesn't want Rosy near her I can't allow this regardless how cute. Lil actually seems like she's scared of the pup. LOL She might be since she's never been exposed to other animals.

No I wouldn't punish Lil for this behavior since shes only telling the pup to stop chasing, jumping on me, and getting in my face. would be a different story if Lil was stalking or going after Rosy. I have read on google that actions as Lil is showing will actually be beneficial to the pup in teaching her behaviors like what Rosy is showing is unacceptable. Do any of you think I'm doing the right thing by avoiding contact with Rosy while Lil adjusts or do you think I should have more contact with Rosy showing Lil I accept the new puppy? Mind you the few times Rosy ran for my feet Lils lip raised. Lol. Almost like she was saying stay away from my mama.

Rosy eats like a horse. Vet told me over phone to feed 5 tiny meals a day until she reaches at least five pounds and that it would be best at this small size to have kibble out at all times for her. I haven't left kibble out yet because she's not eaten dry food yet only moistened and smashed into mush that I than mix into the nasty no good canned she was eating. I will be glad when this weaning into a new food is over.

Anglo if your reading I know you approve of Purina. There is a Purina Pro Plan Focus for small breed puppys. Do you think this Purina would be considered a good line in the different Purinas? I don't expect you to research this I just thought maybe you were familiar with the Purina Pro Plan Focus.

Thank you all for your excellent advice which I knew I'd get from you all.

Your vet can recommend a good food for the puppy. I'd call and ask.

Since the vet said to leave kibble out at all times, I would do that as well. There's usually a good reason for those suggestions.

Mamap, I am a bit confused. You already have a chihuahua, what food are you giving LIl? Why should Rosy's be different?

Is Lil used to grazing? This past week I watched my DD's chihuahua mix. I had to hand feed her her two meals because there was no way I could leave food out, Fred would devour it.

Nope my vet will not recommend pet food except for RX foods. I only ask Anglo about the Purina because I think she's done a lot of research on Purina.

Eld...Rosy can't eat what Lil eats. Lil is on adult food Rosy needs puppy formula food. I was going to start Rosy on what Lil eats but in the puppy formula but can't find it in my area anywhere.

I do leave about a heaping Tablespoon of kibble out for Lil as snacks. She rarely touches it.

Can you find the food online?

Not to mention Lil has stomach issues, I believe, so mama has to keep an eye on her food, too. I think puppy food for Rosy is a good idea as it is formulated for their needs.

About Lil not liking when Rosy ran for your feet ... when Roxy was the new puppy in our household, I vividly remember Lola growling and "air snapping" at her as she ran after my feet. I think Lola was telling baby Roxy that rather than being cute, she (Roxy) was being a pest and if Mom (me) didn't bother correcting her, she (Lola) was telling her (Roxy) in no uncertain terms, "stop being a pest!"

So, maybe if Lil observes you gently correcting Rosy, or having Rosy "sit for a treat", or something like that, Lil will get the idea that you are capable of handling the little devil puppy (<- smile) and she doesn't need to do the job for you. Hope that made sense. Overall, it's early days and Rosy will learn from Lil what is acceptable behavior and as she grows up they will be on much better terms.

Purina foods are crap. Full of bad ingredients and by-products. It contains Brewer's rice, providing calories but only modest nutritional value. Also has wheat, it's an inexpensive and controversial cereal grain of only modest nutritional value to a dog. Another ingredient is corn gluten meal. Gluten is the rubbery residue remaining once corn has had most of its starchy carbohydrate washed out of it. It also has poultry by-product meal, a dry rendered product of slaughterhouse waste. It’s made from what’s left of slaughtered poultry after all the prime cuts have been removed.

In addition to organs (the nourishing part), this stuff can contain almost anything — feet, beaks, undeveloped eggs — anything except quality skeletal muscle (real meat). And then another ingredient is animal fat. Animal fat is a generic by-product of rendering, the same high-temperature process used to make meat meals.

Since there’s no mention of a specific animal, animal fat could come from almost anywhere: roadkill, spoiled supermarket meat, dead, diseased or dying cattle — even euthanized pets.

Do a Google search of high quality foods. There are much better, more nutritional foods out there.

When Lil is between you and Rosy, she will correct (is correcting) Rosy for approaching. Dogs will often “guard” their human in this way. Yes, it’s a correction of Rosy. What you should do in that circumstance, is step away, so that Lil is not between you and Rosy.

If Rosy puppy is between you and Lil, the teeth baring behavior is more unlikely. Take yourself out of the position behind Lil. Many dog fights occur at the feet of the human, and in an enclosed situation , like a doorway. Don’t allow Lil to guard you, because she will believe that’s her job, and dogs take their jobs very seriously.

This is the type of behavior many people encounter when unfamiliar dogs are on leash and meeting each other. In this circumstance, hold the dog way out to your side, so the dog is meeting the new dog without being in a guarding position between the human and the other dog. Does that make sense?

Rosy is adorable. You got a lot of good advice and suggestions. I am sure you will do just fine. I recall Anglo showing dogs and posting about Purina. Hope she sees this to answer your question. I'm not familiar with dog foods, but a friend breeds and shows dogs and he uses Purina.

We don't have any dogs now, just two young cats, and our vet recommends Purina products.

Thank you everyone. I'm still researching food. Lol

Great news...Lil was sitting on my lap on the sofa an hour ago watching the boys play with Rosy when out of the blue she jumped down and played along. She was playing with Rosy. They took turns chasing each other. Everytime Lil caught Rosy..Rosy would lay down and roll on her back. Thats when Lil would run and Rosys turn to catch Lil. They did this for a good 20 minutes. Lil never showed she didn't want to do this. There was no growling from Lil. When they were done Lil hopped on the couch and fell asleep and Rosy crawled on her tiny bed and fell asleep. Its going to be ok. I think Lil has decided to accept Rosy.

How wonderful Mamap. Thst was lovely to hear. Have a great weekend. Love Björn

Bjorn...Thanks it is lovely. You have a great weekend yourself. Love back at ya. Mama