Flamingo Gardens Tea & Louise Odier
Things are really starting up here. I finally cut some Louise Odier to bring indoors, and Flamingo Gardens Tea is just beginning to open a few blooms. It looks like the clematis will open in time to make a showing with the bulk of FGT’s blooms. Lisa
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daisyincrete Z10? 905feet/275 metres
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Comments (14)Carol - One reason that I was considering this Bourbon - Barden's website rates a FEW bourbons down to zone 10. After reading the comments, I don't think that this one in particular will do. However, I'm not giving up on all bourbons - I've got SDLM right now. Organicgardendreams - Sometimes there is a "honeymoon" period with a rose in fl Z10. It likes it for about a year, then declines and dies when it realizes it's not gonna get any rest whatsoever. I'm not into planting roses as annuals, so I'm backing off of any varieties that are iffy. Maybe you could check with your friend who has Odier and post on it in about a year and tell me if it's still healthy? That would be great! Melissa - do you get any frost where you are? Jeri - You're most likely right about Odier. I will check out 'Ragged Robin', thanks. Frances - If Odier is a once bloomer in NJ, then it's probably a no bloomer here! Enjoy that rose for me. Thonotorose - I will def look into the CFHRS, although it's probably too far away to be very convenient for me. OGRs on Fort would be worth the trip, though. Do you have any teas on their own roots? If so, how have they done for you? Catsrose- BS is a bad problem here - I'm trying to avoid the roses which are susceptible. Is Santa Fe Z10? thanks to all who replied, Avalon...See MoreLouise Odier or Mme. d'Enfert?
Comments (8)I do not have MEC or MDE. Do have Louise Odier. When I did spray, this one did not keep 2/3 of leaves. But maybe that was just my perception, cause a tall lanky bourbon does not necessarily have lots of leaves even when healthy. But she looked awfully naked and did not repeat very often or very heavily. IMO, the blooms on LO, especially the ones after the spring flush, are not big and lucious enough to be worth the trouble of a bourbon....See Morenew to rose gardening
Comments (17)Use hardware cloth or chickenwire cylinders to protect from rabbits. Animals will start eating young rose bushes when it gets cold. I just use 12-12-12 (or 10-10-10 or 13-13-13), whatever is on sale. Milorganite has iron and nitrogen. I bought own root Jude from Roses Unlimited a few years ago. It was a slow starter but survived the winter without protection and is now a good medium sized rose bush. Louise Odier can handle part shade. Not much repeat. Long canes....See MoreWould like some advice on teas/chinas in the uk
Comments (50)Ugh just had a long update/ coment eaten by the posting gremlins. Will try again with more info later. Later, with added commentary. Le Vesuve. This rose (by tape measure, not by eye) is 4ft 9 by 4ft by 3 ft vertically. So far, no signs of mildew! I'm very happy with it size wise for a first year rose - there are supposedly much hardier roses in my garden that have done less with more, so as to speak. General Schablikine This one has stayed a small hummock, but with one comical 3ft cane. According to "Tea Roses For Warm Gardens," this is it's habit when it's immature so I'm not too worried. It is paler than the others, almost chlorotic looking, and I wonder if it might want an iron/seaweed tonic dose. Mme Anoine Mari. I begin to understand the accolades this rose has; although a little lopsided, it's slowly, gracefully branching out to just under 3ft in all directions, all the while clothed in glossy dark foliage. Mutablis Best freebie EVER. It blooms and grows and blooms and grows, staying shapely and well foliated. Gruss I haven't a new picture of. It's spotlessly healthy and about 4ft tall, but only 18 inches wide. very much looking forward to it becoming established. Both the Ladies H, truck on serenely. They bloom and grow and bloom and grow, more or less continuously. The potted climbing version needs a bigger pot and a less lacksadaisical waterer, but carries on regardless. I do see the plaint about the dead blooms, but it's nothing like the mummified horror that is Alchymist so I can overlook it easily. Also the are both spotless, huzzah, a non sprayed yellow rose in England in September that is NOT imitating a Dalmatian. Leonie Viennot is HUGE - 6ft of growth on every cane. However, it's shown some tendency towards mildew, BUT it's potted and immature. I really need to make a call on a permanent home, but the potential mildew is making me hesitate. Not that it actually is mildewed, just the leaves are crumply like it's GOING to mildew, but never quite gets powdery. It's a dilemma. Latest garden addition (bit scruffy, I haven't finished planting!) Based on how happy I've been with my experimental roses, I'm going to push the boat still further, and try some more teas, chinas and maybe a tea noisette or two. Blush Noisette is bidding fair to be one of the best roses in my garden in a quiet sort of way. Really charming. I'm hoping it's not an outlier! The Perle D'Or I mentioned up thread will be ready this autumn, (although Arethusa is apparently not wanting to play) and I am contemplating Duchesse D'Aerstadt as replacement for the horrible Alchymist, which nothing I can do makes happy. Mme Jules Gravereaux/ Celine Forrestier for the arch, Alexander Hill Gray, Anna Olivier, Clemetina Carbonieri, for the yellow /orange beds and last but not least, Homere and / or Hume's Blush/Odorata to replace Eglantyne. Any thoughts? Guesses as to sizes? My baby Vesuve is already about as big as Beales thought it would top out at, so much for that estimate!...See MoreLisa Adams
6 years agoThank you, Daisy, Jin, and Ingrid. I’m enjoying them both very much. I like the burgundy stems and canes on Flamingo Gardens Tea, and I planted the wine colored clematis ‘ Madame Julia Correvon’ with it for this reason. Along with FGT’s yellow blooms, and the blue thistle nearby, it makes a nice combination. The Eryngium won’t bloom until later, but all three do bloom together. It’s one of my few planned, successful combinations. I often just plant things where they fit, and the sun is right. I end up with random combinations this way, but most are pleasing. They just don’t bloom at the same time as their neighbors. Sometimes this is actually good, as it extends the season of interest. I too, found the story of Flamingo Gardens Tea interesting. It’s a “found rose” found in such an unusual way! It’s certainly a tough rose in the hot and dry conditions of my garden. It’s in full sun all day.
Louise Odier, what can I say? I had no idea I’d love her so much, or that she’d do so well for me. She’s just been a delightful rose. After spending nearly two years cramped in a pot, she went into the ground in Feb? of last year. She bloomed from about April through August or September. She always had at least a few blooms and buds no matter how hot it was. She rested for about two months, and bloomed again in the fall. I cut her back in January because she was getting big so quickly. She just bounced right back with big fat bud clusters everywhere. She really is like a weed! All her cuttings took! She’s really been a pleasant surprise! Lisa
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