i dont know.. its SAD time on GW ... i have been getting in trouble for 'straight talk' ... lol .... a pic would really help ... the lilac .. with a hand trowel.. and presuming you want to save a piece.. dig out a sucker with some root ... and move it to a good location ... most of my lilac are 8 feet tall and at least that wide ... if you dont have a space for something that size.. just kill the thing ... as to the gas line .. congrats for knowing its there.. lilac is rather shallow rooted.. and short of using a sawzall.. or really jumping on a shovel.. you arent going to break thru a gas line .. have it marked in advance.. tell the guy why.. and ask his advice ... they dont like to admit it.. but their gizmos can ESTIMATE depth ... at least giving you an idea if it 3 inches.. or three feet down ... he should also be able to tell you if its a galvanized pipe or not ... knowledge is power ... whatever they tell you.. just start an archeology excavation.. and get the job done ... it obviously isnt going to be a grinding job ... and because its right there at the front door.. i would make the effort to dig it out.. rather than kill the stump. and leave it there for 5 years to rot away ... like the rest of us.. you want the fast easy solution.. there isnt one.. just an afternoon of gentle digging and slaughter.. lol .. as to the JMap ... they take well to artistic pruning.. trees are made to cut on .. they can deal with it.. with just a few rules ... on PROPER CUTS this tree should NOT overhang the walkway ... again.. snap a pic before it leafs out.. and we can give you guidance on how to prune it ... i do it thru my photoeditor ... and give you a picture of what you should do.. and then everyone argues about it.. lol ... so.. three jobs.. figure out how to post pix dig out the monster prune the JM ... there you go .. 'straight' as i can make it ... dont be lazy.. or delay.. waiting for some miracle cure.. it aint gunna happen ... its one of murphy's rules of gardening ... ken

bloobird, About the AOL ISP numbers, the AOL numbers in the code that I see do not indicate the location of the user. Unless I and several other users all happen to live in the AOL offices in Manassas, Virginia. I can state with complete and utter confidence that I do not live in Manassas, that I do not live in Virginia, and that I do not share the same identities with the others here on GW who are signing in using that ISP number. There is no way to tell from that number anything about the user other than that they are using AOL. Sometimes an AOL number will indicate that the user is in the state of Washington. Something connected to AOL is in the state of Washington but it doesn't mean that the user is there. (Note, if you didn't read my earlier post about my going online and posting with AOL, then this might not make sense to you, bloobird. So you'd have to go back and read that post and look at the code.) To determine where an AOL user lives, you'd have to know their AOL user name which the ISP number does not give you. It doesn't even tell you that it is an AOL individual. It tells you that the person uses AOL. That is ALL it tells you. Even if you knew the user's name, if they hadn't filled out an AOL profile, that doesn't tell you where they live or anything about them. They can be quite anonymous. I do NOT know that my stalker uses AOL. In fact I thought that they did not use AOL. I do know that they know enough about ISPs that they know that using AOL obscures their identity. And AOL is free if you access it by using another server as I do. So it is easy to sign up for AOL and use it if someone wants to for any reason. It is not good for being on the internet at it tends to kick you off. So someone could write a post and get kicked off before they submit it and then they'd have to write it again. That would be annoying. So I doubt that many use it for this purpose unless it is their only access to the internet or they want to obscure their identity. As for my stalker, I don't think they are intending to harrass me if they are here or they would have done it by now. It may be that if the person is here that they are content just to have located me and to read the threads. That might be sufficient for them. It is someone whom I know and from whom I am estranged. I would not report them to anybody unless they did something pretty horrendous. So I may go back to my other name. I haven't decided yet. I kind of like this name too. Decisions, decisions!

Well we really wanted to "drunk" somemore, but we ran outta stuff to drunk. Drink I mean. I had a cup of black coffee before I left. Such fun. I tell you, I'm the only sane one in the bunch. Just ask my Shrink. Everyone says I don't look like my picture. LOL! I had to leave quickly before Dean woke up, because he thought it was to stormy. My BR light burned out and I dressed in the dark and even put on my makeup in the dark. I look like a Texas Tumbleweed. I had to hurry to jump ahead of the storm and of course Rath of Dean. So I took $60.00 out of his wallet and a Credit Card in case I wanted to buy myself a "grudge" surprise and fleed the crime scene.

"I think I am determined to prove everyone wrong - I must be mad (or stupidly in love)" Yes, you are stupidly in love. You are accepting incredible stories, you are involved in stalking & harrassment, you are relating the horrible way he treats his children, & it has no effect on you. It doesn't touch your euphoria at all. You're on a high, just as though you were on drugs. Reality doesn't seem real. But euphoria wears off, & then you'll feel humiliated & ashamed of yourself. Men who do this kind of thing know very well what they're doing; they're taking advantage of the vulnerability of women to certain "triggers" or signals. Men who "sweep you off your feet", "bombard" you with flowers & love notes, say that you're their soulmate, etc *know very well* that these behaviors trigger the release of endorphins, the feel-good/euphoria-producing hormones. They know that, as long as they keep that stuff going on, they can do anything they want, they can tell unbelievable lies, they can engage in flagrant misbehavior, & their target will believe them, will stay with them, will remain "stupidly in love" with them. They have absolute power over their targets. They don't want a "soulmate". They want a victim to abase & to con. One of the most potent things that they use is physical proximity. Females who remain in close physical proximity with a male *always* eventually bond with him. How many times have you heard a dazed, bewildered wife going through a divorce say something like, "I didn't like him when I first met him, but he kept pursuing me, & I finally thought I loved him. Now I think I must have been out of my mind"? That's exactly what happens. Once the euphoria wears off (& it will, just like any other drug), the woman crashes. & the man doesn't care. The game's over, he's "won", he's made a fool of her, & he's off to the next one. You lost. Your problem. Just like it's his ex-wife's problem right now. Try an experiment: Sever all connections for 14 days, that's 2 weeks. Don't see him, speak to him, email him. Don't accept presents, don't read letters or emails from him. Pretend he never came into your life. Then re-read the things you've written on this thread. I wish you the best.