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Photo ideas for Clematis combinations please?

garyz8bpnw
6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago

To start it off in a big way

Clematis 'The President' with Rose 'Zephirine Douhin' and 9.5' tall Cardiocrinum giganteum v Yunnanese. A light pink Camilla is to the right which was finished blooming. This was at our last house. The Giant Himalayan Lily likes shade on the large base of the large leafed plant. It's a genus that bridges between Hosta and Lilium.



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Internet photos found

Clematis 'Nelly Moser' with a Rose like 'Don Juan'.



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Clematis 'Elsa Spath' with Rose 'Zephirine Douhin'



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Clematis 'Jackmanii' with Lonicera 'Scentsation'


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Clematis 'Huldine' with 'Violacea'



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Please ID the Clematis in these combinations.







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Clematis combination gone wild!

Amazing but little over the top for me,

especially for keeping it healthy and

well balanced with age.



Comments (55)

  • NHBabs z4b-5a NH
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Here is another I have posted before and was an unplanned combo. They just happened to bloom at the same time, something I hadn't expected with the herbaceous 'Serious Black'. They are in a garden with all plants having either flowers or foliage in shades of red, pink or white. The other two are 'Rebecca' and Piilu.

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  • cameragirl59
    6 years ago

    Beautiful! The one with Huldine sure looks like my photo.

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  • Diana (zone 8, AL)
    6 years ago

    Here is more - clematis have no name got it in Walmart this week as Purple clematis , Rose is MME ISAAC PEREIRE

  • Diana (zone 8, AL)
    6 years ago

    One more - rose is Teasing Georgia, clematis with no name again Walmart has it..

  • K S
    6 years ago

    Babs, your picture of Little Bas with that hydrangea is probably the nicest clematis pairing I've ever seen! So lovely!

    I don't have pictures, because I just planted these clematis last year (so they were not big enough to merit photography) but here are some pairings I am trying out:

    Rosa Gertrude Jekyll paired with Clematis durandii (I love the color of durandii)

    Rosa Eden paired with Clematis inspiration and Princess Kate (although this spring it looks like Kate has decided to climb past Eden and jump onto Rosa "Adam" instead... best laid plans...)

    Rosa Reve d'Or with Clematis juuli (this was originally Graham Thomas with Juuli, but GT has been re-homed). (I love the stamens on Juuli)

    Rosa Adam with Clematis Petit Faucon (this was originally Petit Faucon and Jude the Obscure, but Jude has also been removed -- and as I mentioned above, it looks like Princess Kate is making her way past "Eden" and across the fence to Adam, which probably will look nicer than what I had originally planned).

    I also have a Clematis hakurei and a Clematis socialis planted at the foot of a young Gloire de Dijon. Hakurei is probably my favorite clematis at this point -- I love its delicate white flowers, which are nice for cutting and adding to arrangements.



  • totoro z7b Md
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    I just got these from Lowe's.

    Fleuri

    Bernadine

    I plan to pair Bernadine with Sombreuil rose

    and Fleuri with another white rose Desdemona, but I think they also look good together:

    i am hoping Bernadine will look nice next to clematis Samaritan Jo and rose Eden:

  • totoro z7b Md
    6 years ago

    Diana, I love your Shin-Shigyoku. I am usually not attracted to doubles but that silver reverse is so striking.

  • totoro z7b Md
    6 years ago

    Camera girl, what is the purple clematis with your Huldine?

  • NHBabs z4b-5a NH
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Totoro, in the first post in the thread it is labeled as Violacea, but there doesn't seem to be one with that name and appearance in commerce currently, and it wasn't initially posted by Cameragirl though it is her plant. Hopefully, Cameragirl will be back here to ID her dark purple, but if not, check out Viola, Etoile Violette, Jackmanii/AKAJackman or Jackmanii Superba for a similar effect.

    To get them to pair effectively you need a summer blooming plant (type 3 prune )rather than the spring bloomers (type 2 prune) that is most often sold at big box stores IME.

  • garyz8bpnw
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Cameragirl 59 posted this as Clematis Huldine and Jackmanii on Flickr which could be true.

    But Polish Spirit is usually deeper colored and more like this photo in my experience than would be Jackmanii. PS is a very nice grower and bloomer. Think would work well with Huldine. The above photo looks very colored saturated in its processing and so it's hard to ID the actual clematis. Polish Spirit in my yard is one of the more color saturated blue-purples like this. The next photo is from my yard.

    NHBabs I agree with you. So might the Violacea mentioned by others be Venosa Violacea? Same species but flower has white bar so yes it is not this pairing (BTW its white bar might look very elegant next to Huldine!).

    If a Jackmanii is chosen for the combo, Jackmanii tends to have more 4 petaled flowers and Jackmanii Superba can lean more towards 6 petaled flowers. 4 petaled as in the combo photo would give the most shape contrast whereas 6 petaled would also be neat because would look more like similar flowers of same color.

    I do suspect the two Jackmanii may be distinctly larger than Huldine. I feel Polish Spirit is closer to the size difference in the photo. I've not seen enough well established Jackmanii Superba to comment. However in my viewing Jackmanii gets quite rampant and puffs out quickly to thicken the mass of leaf depth and might dominate other clematis in duos. Polish Spirit is perhaps more well behaved spreading more rapidly than thickening the mass. However most viticella cultivars are rapid strong growers and will fill out over time anyway. So in combinations strategy and attention to detail in pruning will be important.

    Finally Etoile Violette would be another good choice wirh Huldine for this effect. I usually see it in photos and person with less blue in the purple than the duo clematis top photo and a little more random in shape with 4 and 6 petal flowers all at the same time . Ratio of 4 vs 6 likely changes with light position in yard, temperature, season (day length), and fertilizing.

  • biondanonima (Zone 7a Hudson Valley)
    6 years ago

    I planted several clems last fall, and I'm very excited to see how they look in combination with one another! Along a retaining wall/fence, I have Blue Angel, Etoile Violette, Cloudburst and Venosa Violacea (I think in that order) - should be a gorgeous wall of purple in a few years! I also planted Niobe and Omoshiro together in another part of the garden - we'll see if I train them onto the same trellis or keep them apart. I'll post pics if/when I get blooms!

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  • jtz58
    6 years ago
    always looks great mixed in with rhodedendron
  • garyz8bpnw
    Original Author
    6 years ago

    Clematis Shin-Shigyoku or Multi-Blue with those pointed petals and silver white accents would look great next to a pointed petal white like Gilliam Blades.

  • windymess z6a KC, Ks
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    I have purchased Huldine and Rhapsody this spring... planning to put them together. I'm hoping it will be a good combo, in terms of bloom time and colors... and since they're both Type 3 for pruning....

    Opinions?

  • NHBabs z4b-5a NH
    6 years ago

    I have found that summer blooming white clematis are ravaged by the Japanese beetles, so no more of them for me. If you don't have J beetles, then probably good. Rhapsody is a gorgeous color! I have always though it was an early large flowered rather than a type 3, and though in my garden it tends to get pruned by the cold, it still blooms earlier than my type 3's.

  • windymess z6a KC, Ks
    6 years ago

    Oh bummer... I thought they would bloom together.

  • NHBabs z4b-5a NH
    6 years ago

    Not in my garden, though since you are in a very different area, who knows. Plus it will give you an excuse to find another clematis . . . it's a slippery slope to clematis-love.

  • gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
    6 years ago

    Actually 2 'Rhapsody' are listed on COTW with similar descriptions (but only one photo) and both are listed as early large flowered hybrids or pruning group 2.

  • windymess z6a KC, Ks
    6 years ago

    I saw that, but there are other places online that list it as group 3, and Donahue's - which is where I ordered it - describes it as group 3.

    Well, however it turns out, you're right - I can always add another!

    Or, I guess I could plant the Rhapsody elsewhere and get something else to go with the Huldine. The location I'm planning to use for these is my best full-sun area though. And other locations will be part-sun. I bought a Hagley Hybrid for one of those spots. I think Rhapsody needs the full sun, doesn't it?

    I already have a combo of Henryii and The President, which I planted last year - in a mostly-sunny area.

  • cameragirl59
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Hi there everyone, yes it's Jackmanii and yes the pic is a bit saturated but I loved the combo so much, I wanted to make the colors pop!

    Biodanomima, I can't wait to see your combo as I just purchased Cloudburst.

    Diana, where did you purchase Shin-Shigyoku? It's stunning.

    Here are a couple of more combos.

  • windymess z6a KC, Ks
    6 years ago

    cameragirl - what is the pink one with the Venosa Violacea? Great combo!

  • aluvaboy
    6 years ago

    Windymess, The pink one is Comtesse de bouchaud. It flowers in abundance.

  • windymess z6a KC, Ks
    6 years ago

    Thanks - I'll be on the lookout for that one!

  • cameragirl59
    6 years ago

    Yes Windy is correct. Unfortunately I had to remove it from my neighbor's fence after he chopped it off....talk about being very upset!! I would not have planted it there without his permission but guess there are some plant haters out there.

  • windymess z6a KC, Ks
    6 years ago

    Sorry to hear it... that's just plain ornery.

  • Al Mitchell zone 5b (ameri2nal)
    6 years ago

    Etoile Violette with Westerland and Autumn Sunset

    Another Etoile Violette used as backdrop

    from a different angle Memorial Day is the pink rose and Regal trumpet lily, the yellow rose is Julia Child

    and another angle Fair Bianca in foreground

    more Julia Child in front the purple on the right is Melody Parmume, the red is Firefighter, the pink is Sharifa Asma

  • cameragirl59
    6 years ago

    Al, WOW!!! Simply gorgeous. I'm looking for an orange rose, how big does Westerland get and is it fragrant?

  • Al Mitchell zone 5b (ameri2nal)
    6 years ago

    Hi Cameragirl. For me (in Chicago area) Westerland dies down to about 2 feet or less each winter and ends up around 6-9 feet by the end of the growing season depending on how much nitrogen I feed with and how it is trained. i would imagine that if you are in a warmer climate, you can get it to grow bigger.

    The fragrance is moderate to strong, and I would describe it as a sweet, pleasant scent, but am at a loss to get more specific. Rebloom is on the slow side. It is very healthy, even without spray, and very thorny. I ended up moving it from its spot on the above picture because the clematis was overwhelming it.

  • sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Al I love those trumpet lilies!! I actually planted a white one and a yellow one this spring in my new flower bed. Your garden is amazing..Like its totally on steroids lol!

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  • Al Mitchell zone 5b (ameri2nal)
    6 years ago

    Well, the lillies only look like that for about 2 weeks, the rest of the year they are just green foliage. But the fragrance is worth it. My nose isn't strong enough to detect a waft from very many things, but I can small the lillies from 100 feet away.

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  • garyz8bpnw
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    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    <<Click photos to expand any compressed or cut off.>>

    Sultry_Jasmine i use 10-10-10 four month slow release pelleted fertilizer a little on the heavy side. It's about like Osmocote but only about $1/lb not $2.5/lb. Lowes (like a Home Depo) here has it.

    On the "Trumpet Lily" it is not, and I can't take credit. Cardiocrinum giganteum is a giant among lily like flowering plants. It bridges between Hosta and Lily and has wide heart shaped leaves. It wants shade w/ part sun in mornings only and bolts to bloom for May. It's powerfully fragrant dusk to dawn and makes amazing toothed seed capsule display. The one I posted above is the variety Yunnanese from Yunnan Himalayan area in China was only 9'. It gets 12".

    We have a multi bulb clump on the northside of the shed shown below. Two 4' x 8' trellis were just installed behind it. Needing shade tolerant Clematis a a large clump of Clematis paniculata (Sweet Autumn Clematis; to left side in photo) with 1" white star like flowers is ready to train up the wall. Clematis 'Nike Warsaw" a great large purple will be tested here with it planted behind the raised wall. We have two beautiful more compact spring flowering Clematis, one of which I will likely install ground level behind the Cardiocrinum clump. So far Clematis alpina 'Constance' is most temping.

    The largest Cardiocrinum variety is called C. giganteum v. giganteum for a reason. With great culture it gets to 14'! We have a clump positioned on in front of the left left of the shed wall. Typically flower stalk does not need staking. Could you stand having this in your yard? Note it wants a cool climate eg I'm guessing not much over z 9 or at least Maritime. And z8 might be the coldest climate unless it winter mulched or covered creatively. A 3' tall cold frame with no heat might work in z6? It starts growing early In Feb in our z8a and it gets frost nipped on leaf tips at times. It fights off the cold by generating enough heat to keep the bulb clump area and leaf mass non-frozen when the air temp is 29°F and the ground a foot away is frozen an inch or two and all other plants are frosted.

    Based on shadows the v. giganteum here in this full sun location is cleverly on the north side or a bush. When it bolts and spends the mothet bulb to flower the smaller leaved top section is much more sun tolerant and the sun drives flowet stalk growth. This must be in a cool climate such as coastal OR, WA, Brotisj Columbia or England or the leaves would have been sun fried on the edges!

    Below is that then one bulb v. giganteum at almost 9' in our last yard. It was more shady there. And note the large flowered Clematis we were trying to establish on the trellis to the right. This was C. 'Snow Queen'. However Clematis 'Silver Moon', 'Alabast', 'Claire de Lune' or 'Guernsey Cream' are more shade tolerant and would have worked much better here.

    White color Clematis behind this would look like stars at night, especially dusk to dawn when this AMAZING Himalayan lily is fragrant. The right Clematis paired on a backdrop behing this would be unforgettable!

    The "unforgettable" goal is why i have positioned a bombshell shaped Hydrangea 'Fire and Ice" to look over while on a garden walk as one looks back towards the house. This week a trellis gets installed on the right patio roof corner near the BBQ. A large flowered white or light colored clematis will go on it to draw tbe eye further. The large tree trunk to the left in front of the outbuilding shed in a dusky red Canadian Maple (which the pink and fire color phase of the Hydrangea work great with). The trunk of the maple has a Japanese False Hydrangea 'Moonlight' trained on it to lift the white star flower effect up into the sky branches above the viewer.

    To describe the location better, as one looks towards the house from this back walkway you are looking over a 15' x 8.5' fish pond with 3 Koi and many Comet Goldfish. My favorite are two black and white Butterfly (Dragon) Koi at about 18" now. You hear the pond water fall. A long stand of Golden Vivax Timber Bamboo and clump of Hardy Basjoo Banana along the left yard margin near two Japanese maples (Coral Bark and Full Moon 'Jordan'). Select Iris are running on either side of the pathway to get here. And the cedar fence walls around the backyard behind you are almost fulled cedar trellised with a series of Clematis and a Golden Hops wall. There are 8 kinds of bamboo, mostly timber' acting as visual privacy screens in strategic locations and to create wind white noise. And there are 80 varieties of select Hydrangea in the yard for long term beauty and to reduce yard work.

    The goal was an attempt at a magical inspiring relaxing experience. We are serious hobby muscians who entertain (see "Ancient Sounds" on CDBaby, I'm a world flute player). This is a muse area where I practice outside at times and to host family and friend events.

    Too much?

    It's still being installed. People have said they like the yard. Thx. Here's a little more description. And Clematis Combos will be key crowning touches. Thus, my request for your generous ideas!

    Hydrangea to be installed 2018. Goal is lawnless. And many of those surprise pinl and red conversions will be restored to the pre-move blue, purple and cobalt blue colors.

    The bulbs are ground cover or taller perennials to emerge next with 11 hydrangea and one white lilac to leaf out. The Aspera hydrangea in front of the shed gets 12' x 12' as tall as the shed and will hide it.

    House below purchased a little over 2 years ago. Here minus 30 cu yd compost and a little shovel work. It was a blank slate landscaping opportunity with two great mature trees, and a Papa Smuf Blue house color, which was our first opportunity to change.

    The Gazebo is 15.5' inside! And now hosts Clematis and Honeysuckle nicely. Lonicera 'Scentsation' is a favorite to make up for the mostly scentless Clematis and Hydrangea. This and a lot of Canna and Cardinal flower around the pound gets everything buzzing beautifully with three kinds of Hummingbirds. Two one quart nectar feeders with winter heaters help ensure their loyality. The large Anna's stay here in PNW year round.

  • garyz8bpnw
    Original Author
    6 years ago

    On any flower lasting short times eg 2 weeks, that's why I plant a variety blooming in different seasons so the nonblooming act as contrasting foliage. I also look for long duration and rebloomers. Short bloomers gottta be truly amazing fragrance or features or why bother!

    Example Tree Peonies have amazing size fragrant flowers but last only a week at best and take so much space. So I'm not sure I will host one in the new yard. Photos are the 3 Tree Peony from my last yard. 3-5 days of bloom blinding bliss.

  • Lilyfinch z9a Murrieta Ca
    6 years ago

    Oh my gosh ... these photos are so so gorgeous!!!! Thank you all for sharing

  • totoro z7b Md
    6 years ago

    Gary, if you want long blooms, plant roses. They can rebloom 3-4 times or there are continually blooming types. I grow peonies, wisteria, lilies and irises but they are short lived in comparison. bulbs will be planted after the roses have settled. I love your colorful, densely planted garden. I also You should post your photos here to get suggestions and ideas and lots of oohs and ahs.

    https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/5240151/can-you-show-a-picture-with-a-general-view-of-your-garden?n=142

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  • totoro z7b Md
    6 years ago

    This blog has some nice clematis pairings with roses

    https://petalsandwings.blog/tag/clematis-betty-corning/

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  • garyz8bpnw
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    << click to enlarge any compressed photos >>

    Totora we have 80 different hydrangea going into the yard for that exact long blooming time purpose. Most have no fragrance and so I'm working to install some fragrance Roses on a slope between our upper and lower patios near the house. I'm finalizing the planting of these Roses.

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    These are backed by vines on 3 trellis including those listed below grouped by trellis..

    Pink Jasmine ... yeah fragrance again!

    Clematis Hagley Hybrid or another Ramona?

    Clematis Ruutel

    Clematis Henyri

    Clematis Proteus

    Honeysuckle Fragrant Cloud

    Honeysuckle Peaches & Cream (as bush)

    Since this is a first planting and no ground cover is in place yet I've started seeds for 36 Nasturium Jewel Box ready to plant from 3.5" pots to act as annual ground cover. I'm still deciding on groundcover with Vinca minor with Labrador Violet being my best guess so far. I want to make sure the Vinca can take this much sun first.

    There is a runner along the walkway in front of this bed the plants for which I'm organzing now. Leaning towards select Walflower, Penstemmon, Oriental Poppy, and Digitalis mertonensis at the end next to a granite boulder.

    Intial root pit areas being dug to 2' in glacial till based yard.

    Screened soil mixed with commercial compost used to fill root pits. This is the metal trellis visual test. Three trellis were installed yesterday from ground to roof edge under the gutter. Wallflower which begin blooming by early February in my area are being positioned and visually tested before installation this week in a runner along the walkway A very dwarf Nandina which is red in Fall to Winter may start the runner.

    The remaining length of the perennial bed was then dug. A Demoltion Hammer makes the glactial till digging much easier! The iron digging rod is still useful to lever around rocks, such as this granite boulder approachimg 2' in diameter that I found buried in the yard.

    It also levered out a beautiful rock we found 3-4x larger, which as 2+' below the ground surface where I needed to install timber bamboo barrier.

    Beautiful rock! I would have gladly paid cash it. But I guess 3 hr sweat equity was payment enough.

    My Daughter was helping that day and exclaimed "How the heck are we going to move that!? I winked and said "as the Ancient Egyptians did". Amazing what a sturdy lever, lever points and small rocks as brace to secure progress can do. A 6' True Temper Digging Rod barely bends with 6" lifting end used at pivot point and my 250 lb at the other end standing on it. That about a 20 fold advantage so I assume the rock weighs about a ton?

  • gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
    6 years ago

    That rock is sensational!! I love rocks in a landscape....they provide substance and are the ultimate in low maintenance gardening :-)

    I thought I had reached my limit of the clems I could include in my tiny little garden. After cultivating more than 60 varieties in my old garden, this tiny, deer-plagued space doesn't have room for many and my current collection of about a dozen are mostly grown in containers. I even passed on a gorgeous, in full bloom Rebecca at my nursery the other day, simply because I couldn't figure out where to put it. I already have a salvaged C. florida Sieboldii I dug out of my sister's garden when she moved to a condo to relocate but that will definitely be in a container.

    But then I was running errands yesterday and stopped at Walmart and found a big assortment of Clearview clems in tiny 4" pots..........and at $3.99 I couldn't resist!! Nothing very exciting - 'Gypsy Queen', 'Westerplatte' and 'Jackmanii Superba'.

    Have no idea where these are going to go......but for the time being they will be potted up to grow on to size so I have some time to decide :-))

  • windymess z6a KC, Ks
    6 years ago

    gardengal - I'm looking for a Gypsy Queen, and know just where I want to plant it, maybe I'll check out my Walmart. Sounds like you've done with clematis what I've done with hosta this year - bought a bunch without a clue where they'll go. Oh well, like Jell-O... "there's always room for more."

    And I've just gotta say - that is the cutest cocker spaniel ever in your profile picture! He/she looks like a little person with that hair, the eyes and the expression. Adorable!

  • gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Thanks, windymess :-) That is Chewy and he is my BFF and constant companion. And he is pretty dang cute personality-wise as well - very mellow, extremely affectionate and still very playful going on 10 years old. He just had his summer haircut so is looking a little less shaggy at the moment. And feeling a bit of a chill so is sticking very close by :-)

    btw, I disremembered my recent purchases :-) I looked at Jackmanii Superba but instead opted for Negritjanka!!

  • totoro z7b Md
    6 years ago

    Gary good luck with your roses. Gorgeous rock. Do you have a photo of where you finally put it in the garden@

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  • garyz8bpnw
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Totoro the green rock I found is in front of the bamboo area where I dug it out. So it is just outside of the root barrier along a pathway near a shed we have. We were blessed with 3 outbuildings in our backyard so I can do house entrance like plantings near each. I'll look for a photo or take one today and update this.

    The rock works into this in front of a Phyllostachys aureosulcata v. 'Spectabilis'. This is a big yellow timber bamboo with green stripe, and it gets reddish highlights on new growth if it has enough sunlight (mine does). There's a Golden Hops prepared to go on the cedar fence behind to the right and other clematis for the left side. I have about 10 clematis to go along that fence on a series of 4' x 8' trellis running the whole length of a long fence wall in our triangular shaped backyard. It has NNW exposure but full sun pn top at 6'. So I have to pick them carefully.

    I hsve a Montana 'Elixabeth' and some Alpina and Macrophylla to go there too.

    It's hard to resist good clematis. A Huldine and Bourbon just came in from Bluestone. Extremely vigorous and well grown and packed. Amazing deal for the price. Fred Meyers has tbe small Clearview starts like mentioned above at Walmart for almost free. Picked up Polish Spirit, Gillian Blades, Elsa Spath and Henryi. They are growing quickly in the 3 weeks I've had them.

    I've tended to option for combos to get more continuous flowering and to create interest. Mixed same height or compact at the feet of a tall vine which otherwise only flowers from midway up are themes I'm trying.

    Above are the Bamboo installed in the yard except China won't give me a Panda yet. And the Giant Tropical Bamboo won't grow here. Not wanting a Jack and the Beanstalk like experience my Wife is happy about that. A red example of the var Spectabilis is photo upper right. Besides the beauty and white noise they create they are strategically placed to give neighbors with raised decks or 2nd storey windows something interesting to look at (besides us). A few of these reach 40+'. I'm working through the next 200' of Lewis Bamboo barrier to help tame them as I finish installing them. I love the effect of focused stands in front of the fence with Clematis on the trellis system between.

    With Golden Vivax as example this is the focused tall stand effect I'm after. And soon after I accomplish this I'll need to be dividing it and moving out clumps to give it growing space. Beauty AND an exersize program. Botanical Zen!

  • totoro z7b Md
    5 years ago

    Love your bamboo collection. I fear my nigra in a pot has died. It is not leafing out yet and all the culms look pale brown.

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  • totoro z7b Md
    5 years ago

    I have a Huldine and Giselle coming too.here is Fleuri with Bolero rose

  • Lilyfinch z9a Murrieta Ca
    5 years ago

    Totoro , I was at lowes and their clematis were so mislabeled! They had pots of Bernadine but the blooms were not. I bought a pretty violet or blue looking one that was the same in both chevalier and lady Diana pots . Wonder why the grower can't do it right ? I bought guiding promise too and o think that was accurate .

  • totoro z7b Md
    5 years ago

    I got my Bernadine from Lowes and now I am wondering if it really is.

  • garyz8bpnw
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    Thinking seriously of pairing 'Crystal Fountain' and 'Mrs N. Thompson' together on a Gazebo Trellis. They look strikingly awesome together! They are in pots currently so put them sude by side for this photo.

    Like the combination?

  • garyz8bpnw
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    totoro largest black bamboo I've seen is what I'm calling 'Squak Mt Giant'. It's at Squak Mt Nursery in Issaquah, WA. Over the last 20 yr I've watched a 10 x 20 clump go to maybe a quarter city block. They are just just letting it bask in an unused space and not really selling it. My clump is a division I got permission to dig.

    For fun very early this spring I went back to take photos of my old friend.

    This is a newer growth and still shifting black overbtime. It's a big diameter culm for Phyllostachys niger! I have Men's XL size hands.


  • K S
    5 years ago

    Below: Durandii and Gertrude Jekyll


    Reve d'Or and Juuli

    These are not mature plants yet, so I don't know how they will ultimately work out.

  • garyz8bpnw
    Original Author
    5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Durantii is very beautiful but has an odd flower display habit. It gets tall and lanky and flowers tend to face more upright than outward. And it typically bloonms only at the top not branching much. It may not work harmoniously in display with the rose (mine is in bloom now to at 8' tall. In this color range Polish Spirit is tempting but it does like to get big and would need continual trimming to tame.


    Gertrude Jekyll is not a tall rose (and smells wonderrful). I think you would do better using a new modern compact growing patio rose. Look for a blue. In a different softer color Cezanne might look good. I photographed this yesterday.

    Parisenne is perhaps another option.

    They say Fujimusume is one of the clearest new compact blues, but I've not grown it yet.