Atragenes, Alpinas for the south?
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Narrowed it down to a Macropetala.......
Comments (5)Wow, what a beautiful clematis. That is a keeper. Seedlings don't have cultivar names. You can call it whatever you want. If you would like to see photo's of similar clematis go to clematis on the web. They have a clematis picture search. Just select atragene group and white tepal color and it will show you lots of similar clematis. Here is a link that might be useful: Clematis on the web...See MoreGroup 1's for Georgia?
Comments (1)Definitely try an alpina or macropetala but just realize that they have not done well for me in zone 7a here in NC. They tend to do well for a year or two and then go into decline and falter over time. If you do try one, I suggest planting on the east side of your house to help keep the plant out of direct sun during the hotter parts of the day. If I personally were going to try one, my choice would be Joe Zary because I think that it is just stunning looking. There are tons of montanas out there. I suggest you go to COTW and search for montanas and find one that you like the looks of the best. There are smaller scaled ones for smaller gardens, ones that have various fragrances including chocolate (big plus for me being the certified chocoholic that I am), and ones with various colors. Your preferences for color and fragrance as well as the amount of space that you have for them will help dictate which would be the best for you. Here is a link that might be useful: Joe Zary...See MoreHelp me spend more $
Comments (6)I got my Eyre at Hummingbird -- 47 miles from my house. Cindy said "We're looking forward to getting to know Eyres Gift! It is often described as a 'Jackmanii type', which implies it is a Hard Prune variety. However, all our sources list it as a Moderate Prune clematis. Hmm...guess we'll have to make up our own minds on that!" Since she has it listed with the ELFs, I would say that she thinks of it this way too. Don't know where PoP got there info, I'm at lunch at work now & don't have the link here to that site. I've decided that for me, any questionable types will be treated based on when they flower. ie "Minister" is suposed to be type 3, but it is one of my earliest non-atragene bloomers. So my pruning will be light. Will try to work on the comparisons tonight....See MoreWhat is species vs hybrid clematis?
Comments (12)Pampered container growing in a nursery ???? Obviously you have never toured a wholesale growing operation. There is NOTHING 'pampering' about it!! The handling these plants receive is just this side of brutal, yet they endure and even thrive. They certainly receive much more handling and root disturbance than they do in a more or less permanent garden setting. And to be clear, this is a very large wholesale grower of clematis and other vines and one that supplies countless retail nurseries and as stated, many well-known mail order clematis sources. They know what the heck they are doing. I'm not sure who you got your information from nor do I think it particularly relative to this discussion. The vast majority of clematis resources, including well-recognized growers and breeders like Raymond Evison, recommend a deeper planting depth for any clematis. It increases cold tolerance, encourages additional shooting from the root crown which provides protection/insurance against damage of the fragile stems and seems to reduce the instance of wilt in those clematis that are prone to it - species clematis are not. We all have different experiences to share. Mine, as well as a good many others, is that the majority of species clematis tend to be tough customers. I do not pamper my vines.......in some cases I could be considered to be pretty negligent in their treatment:-) I do not treat my species clematis any different than I do any of the hybrids, nor has my experience - and I've been growing clematis myself for the better part of 30 years - indicated any need to. Again, I think too many myths abound with the "mystique" of growing clematis that are just unfounded. These are far tougher, hardier and more durable plants than most would have us believe....See Moreerasmus_gw
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