find something you must put there. don't forget to actually put it there.

Thanks! I have a third of an acre, not sure I can play off needing to put something in that exact spot. I just don't want to be unneighborly, but i feel like a little conversation could have went a long way in the beginning and I don't want to get walked on here. I imagine in this case im going to have swallow it and let them know I need it moved. I'm just baffled by the behavior so far.

do it sooner rather than later it's not going to make them more pleasant if you wait and will eat at you until you get the chore done

Ask an attorney. You know, "make use of any and all legal resources available to enforce your rights." They've already used hostility to try and dominate, "neighborly" is no longer in the picture. Bullies depend on others trying to be nice, will in fact keep it up until they are shown it's not going to work.

To illustrate: two of us pulled into a diner one time, whereupon it was immediately observed that a couple Hell's Angels types were physically dominating this clean cut looking kid who had let them effectively pin him against the side of a vehicle. He kept making placative gestures to these two animals, until my powerfully built, street savvy friend went over and placed himself in the middle, asked "What is going on here?". Allowing the kid to extract himself and go about his business.

Who knows what the motorcycle boys were up to, but trying to be "neighborly" wasn't working for the kid at all.

I would at least try a friendly conversation before contacting a lawyer. As long as you’re confident about the property line.

You are likely going to be there a while and it’s nice to be friendly with neighbors if possible. If they are unwilling to listen or understand your concerns then you can say you’ll have to seek a legal remedy to protect your rights.

Nothing can spoil your enjoyment of your house faster than bad neighbor ju-ju. Hope it all works out for you.

yes, back home you would put up a fence and then call an atty if it did not work, it was the big city. when i moved to the country it was all totally different, a lot of what you are talking about. i actually had to keep the peace for those on either side. not sure why i had to share the driveway with the lady north of me, but arguing with her would only make things worse. when i felt something was not what i wanted, i did exactly what i said. i do not know if she railed privately, but our friendship continued. think hard. there are many things that must be in that spot. obviously it is not on the far side of the property, right? a fire pit. a garden, a she shed - that would work great for further out. chicken coop. every week there free boats, your new hobby. haul it there. they will not fight, they know they are wrong, if there is no other solution - you will have already thought of all answers, they will give and peace will be maintained. oh, there is also an insurance thing? that would be great, you never have to put anything. a business letter might be good to point it out.

Thanks. Great advice guys!

i understand the surveyor too. although not hte only explanation in a smaller town something like this sounds familiar. when they surveyed my 110 yr old property. they said they surveyed, but they did not, they gave exactly what was done 5 years before. when someone then questioned it, they went and did a new one. be careful though, if you are unknown there they will not cross the surveyor, if he is long term resident.

oh yes, happy easter!

Small towns are fun right? Lol. Thank you! Happy Easter to you and yours!

yeah they take some getting used to, but they have a lot of things i like. everyone back home could not believe i was doing it, but I like a lot of it.

Find out for sure where your property line is. And then "fences make good neighbors".

Yes, if you make it so they actually can't intrude then that should take care of it.

Here's my idea, as someone who wants to avoid hostility, and yet not be taken adventage of.

I'd go over there, with a gift card, or a plate of cookies, and say that your parents/lawyer/friend/real estate attorney (the "bad cop" in the good cop/bad cop scenario) are insisting that you know what your property lines are, maybe for tax purposes and insurance reasons, and so you're going to take care of that. You can say you're sorry if it causes them any inconvenience, but the surveyors will be coming, and you are grateful for them being the good neighbors they are. Thank them very much for continuing to be good neighbors, as you plan to be.

Then have the place surveyed. If their car is on your property, then save up for a fence, and also tell them they need to move it because your homeowners insurance won't cover you for things like that.

Even with their new survey the truck is on my property. Not just a couple feet but the entire truck is on my property. I'm concerned for insurance purposes. I don't want to be responsible for damages to their vehicle. They also are on a double lot and while my property is listed as .33 acres theirs is .35, so there's really no reason for it to be on my property. I just don't want to be too confrontational about it.

Then just tell them in person that you're going to be making your new vegetable garden right there, and you'll need that spot for your garden. Ask them to move their truck, please, so you can get gardening this coming weekend.

It’s also a legal matter.

in some states if they use your property after a Certain length of time they can file and claim said property is theirs and win the property. Put up a fence, plant a tree or flowers.

I'm not angry. Just that I do need to have it moved. As I mentioned there's a hedgeline there, so they actually had to drive it around the back of the property and pull it in between a gap in the treeline along the back to get it there lol. Like i said the previous owner I think let them store it there, but in the back the yards are quite separated. I have children who will be playing out there and it's just a liability. I don't want to get off on the wrong foot with them, but if that's unavoidable so be it. I will try to talk to them before lawyers become involved though.

Crystal, mentioning that you have children, I think you can use that as reasoning that they need to move the vehicle off your property now and find a place on their own property to store it Then put up a fence, ASAP. Your kids should not have access to or be playing around a vehicle that isn't yours, not to mention if one of your tree falls on their truck...guess who pays?

Give one more neighborly effort as mentioned above, then if they don't accommodate, take matters to a lawyer and see about having it towed off your property.

We had a 'diagonally down the street' neighbor at our last house who for some reason INSISTED on parking their crappy car directly in front of our house and sometimes even partially blocking our drive way, Instead of driving around the block to access their rear entry drive way. They were dicks about it. We tried being neighborly, then eventually started sending emails to our whole HOA chain to them "nicely' asking them to remove the car and stop parking it there to embarrass them into moving. that didn't work. Then when they partially blocked our drive, ended up calling the city to have it towed since we couldn't access our drive. hope this does not get that ugly for you.

Crystal you are beyond being a nice neighbor. Not because of you, but because your neighbor has no intentions of being nice. Nether of you have a large piece of property and he wants his and yours, He knows the truck is on your property and doesn't care. I would send him a letter to either move it off your property within a certain time limit or you contact the township and report it as abandoned. In my township a vehicle can not be on any personal property unless it is registered and insured. It keeps people from making their property junk yards. Don't worry about being a friendly neighbor. My parents lived happily next door to a neighbor who did not talk to anyone. Everyone just minded their own business. Their wasn't any hostility, just you stay on your side of the property line and I will stay on my side. Being a nice neighbor has pasted, get tough on this jerk.

Good luck, let us know how it goes!!