Please help - Wolf versus Miele ovens and induction cooktop
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Comments (22)The biggest reason you don't see larger induction ranges is that the 30" ones are already at the limit of most American electrical systems as they exist. 40-50 amp circuits are all that exist currently in most homes in a range location and most American homes only have 200 amp services. If a larger range with larger needs for power were introduced, it would for sure require rewiring as a condition of it's use. And in the typical home, 200 amps of service is already pushing the limit on usage with all of the TVs, computers, and other eletronic gadgetry that are in a modern home. (It's the same reason why you seldom see a retrofit for an electric tankless water heater.) Commercial installations that use large induction hobs typically have access to 3 phase power and MUCH larger service runs. You only have to look at the different electrical requirements between a typical 1970 home and a 2010 home to see how many more circuits are now needed. Start adding in a power hungry range that needs a 70 amp circuit, and you start talking a LOT of money to rewire the run from the pole, a new panel, and the new run for the range. It's just not economically feasable for any maker to introduce something like that at this time. Youd need a paradigm shift in new home construction to make it happen. This post was edited by GreenDesigns on Fri, May 24, 13 at 9:49...See MoreMiele versus Wolf
Comments (9)In principle, I don't feel there's anything wrong with mixing appliances and I haven't hesitated myself. I think here, and on the kitchen forum as well, a majority of experienced posters would say to pick the best choices for what you want and need and unless there's some overarching technical issue, let that be the guide. If you were to do a search on any of the appliances you've listed on this forum you would find happy owners and those with complaints for any and every brand. You seem very focused on appliance features vs how the choices will cook. My suggestion is to attend a class at the Miele and the Wolf showrooms in your area if you haven't already done that and see what's prepared and how the various pieces perform. Posters on this forum generally are very happy with Miele dishwasher and Miele induction. Again, there are exceptions. The same is true for Wolf and Miele ovens, again with the caveat that there are reports of issues to varying degrees on those as well. My impression is that Gaggenau makes a combi oven that may have what you want (not sure) and their appliances also get high marks from owners. Of everything you've cited the last thing that I'd worry about is matching an induction cooktop to an oven. The cooktop as 0 features and barely any trim. However, some people want the same brand for simplicity or service purposes....See MoreDiva and Miele Induction cooktops, Gaggenau and Miele Ovens
Comments (4)Did you try the appliance forum? I haven't seen the new Miele 3 element, but their other models have true timers and 17 power levels (hidden in the programmable features), whereas Diva, as of a few months ago, had 9 power levels only, and said they had no plans to have either. Both are high quality products with good reputations for reliability and customer service. Both Miele and Gaggenau are excellent ovens as well. I'm completely familiar with model numbers, but as I understand it, Miele ovens are known for the system where you choose what you're cooking and the oven figures out the settings. I'd be concerned about the side opening of a Gaggenau oven in an undercounter installation. The obstruction of a drop down door seems like it would, by creating a barrier, be safer, whereas the side swing seems like it would be more easily disregarded and perhaps become a tripping hazard, down where people's legs are. Both are efficient and precise ovens. Gaggenau are known more for their engineering than customer service. If you have a local Gaggenau service center, they're great. Otherwise, you might have to work harder to get a good response--it's not that you won't, it just might take longer and take more effort on your part. Miele has an excellent customer service reputation, and are especially pleased if you have one of their certified installers do the installation. They give you an extra year of warranty to encourage it. In other words, you've spec'd excellent units. Choose the features you like the best and I'm sure you'll be very happy with whatever you end up with....See MoreWolf Electric Cooktop Over Miele electric convection single oven
Comments (5)I was looking at the CE304CB (frameless black glass model). That being said, it's still too tall given the additional height of the power conduit at the bottom. Unlike a wolf wall oven, a miele is flat in the rear on top so there is no "knock out" to allow for the conduit to come down. I see a few options that would fit height wise. Bertazzoni, Smeg, Miele make a few. Viking makes one. What parameter is preventing you from using miele in the first place?...See Morellevy
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