If you could keep but 3 roses....
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jerijen
6 years agoIt will be different for every climate . . .
This is very difficult for me. My choices change constantly.
One would definitely be "Grandmother's Hat" for its overall beauty and the gorgeous blooms (and fragrance) and its freedom from disease in my climate . . .
Another would probably be 'Gloire des Rosomanes' ("Ragged Robin") for much the same reasons . . .
Then, I think, "Jesse Hildreth" -- again, same reasons . . . though the plant is much younger . . .
But close on their heels are "Florence Bowers Pink Tea", 'Annie Laurie McDowell', and Tamalpais Homestead Tea' -- and "The China From Adina" because it came from my family's cemetery in TX.
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Comments (33)I have about three hundred varieties of roses and about five hundred plants, and I'm not nearly as organized as I should be. For me, and I guess for anyone who has a lot of roses, multiple strategies are essential. I have my roses listed on HelpMeFind under the name "Il Giardino ai Papa". This list is mainly for those who want to know what roses I have (for exchange purposes, for example) so that I won't have to mail either a computer file or a bulky paper list. Then I have my critically important Excel spreadsheet, sorted by rose class, then rose name, and including plant source, ease of propagation by cutting, and space for comments. I don't keep information here that I can readily access elsewhere. I have a paper printout of my spreadsheet that I take notes on, and I update the spreadsheet online annually, generally a job for late fall when I know what has survived a year in the garden, as we also plant at this time. I have a garden notebook, much neglected lately, but in which I keep all my plant orders and invoices of shipments received. Labeling the rose is where I break down. I keep the nursery labels on the plant, then, at least in theory, I add a more permanent label, in my case using ones made of Tyvek, available in a roll of 1000, and written on in pencil. I've used aluminum labels that you impress with a stylus of some sort, but have found that they're hard to see on the plant, especially the many-caned, leafy, once-flowering old roses. The pencil-written Tyvek labels are durable, but they get lost, disappear in the foliage, have to be shifted to a new cane when the old one dies or is pruned away...all kinds of things happen. So maps are important. I have some of my garden mapped and need to map much more of it, plus update the maps I have. All this is complicated by mis-named roses. Roses arrive mislabeled by the nursery; or they've been in commerce for years or decades with a wrong name; or cuttings come from friends, named, misnamed, or with no name at all; or mystery roses arrive to take up residence, with no one involved having any idea at all what variety they are. These roses add considerably to the confusion. (I mostly have old and older roses, where these problems are perhaps more common than among modern varieties.) Melissa...See MoreHow do you keep track of your roses?
Comments (14)A poster on the conifers site had metal tags made with the name of each plant and painstakingly wired them to each tree. Shortly after, his small child went by clinking as she walked. She had just as painstakingly removed each tag and made jewelry for herself with them! I make a list of plants I bring home, sort out their height, width and light requirements then insert them in diagrams I have for my different beds after planting. I also keep the tags from the plants in a notebook so I know the latin name, where I got the plant and what I paid for it. If I ever add it all up I'll be shocked, I'm sure! I like the tag stands and the spreadsheets are a great idea! Barb...See MoreDo you keep any roses for the blooms alone?
Comments (23)I am seeing evidence that KO roses are infiltrating private gardens also - gardeners are planting them who thought they could never grow roses because they bought into the ARS exhibitors' almost religious insistence that: 1) there is only one type of proper "rose", 2) you must have a "spraying program" that means getting into a spacesuit and flooding your garden with poisons every 2 weeks, 3) you must obey the rules of pruning they made up (some of which are just plain wrong), 4) you must feed your roses with a home made magic recipes that contain ingredients that are difficult to find, etc. etc. etc. The main thing I object to about "growing roses for the flowers alone" is not the folks that do that, but the overall impression that got into our culture's conventional wisdom that roses were almost impossible to grow unless you were a fanatic. I am hoping that as gardeners have success growing KO and its brethren, they will realize that roses are great plants, and you do not need to be some sort of high priest using strange rituals to grow them. Hopefully more breeders will follow Ralph Moore's advice, and we will get a stream of healthy easy to grow roses with lovelier flowers, and roses will reappear in most gardens. Jackie...See MoreUnknown Coral Rose- It could be 1 of 3
Comments (6)I really do not think it is a tropicana. My tropicana is more of an orange color and the petals almost come to a point where those are ruffled and rounded...See More
ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
6 years agoSouvenir de la Malmaison, La France and Potter and Moore. They're all pink, practically free of disease, good bloomers and La France at least has a lovely fragrance. SdlM smells like beer but some people like the fragrance. I like the fact that it never stops blooming, and the other two are pretty good in that department too.
Potter and Moore
Souvenir de la Malmaison
La France
Bishop's Castle gets honorable mention for its lovely rich dark pink coloring and strong fragrance, and also being a good bloomer.
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Lynn-in-TX-Z8b- Austin Area/Hill Country
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Alana8aSC
6 years agoI cannot choose just three! How about 30? Lol
I'll try..to get just as few..
I know you knew it would be in here
Orpheline de Juliet
Tour de Malakoff
Jenny Duval
Rush Family Gallica
Hypolyte
Ispahan
The Bishop
I'll stop there, but could keep going. I haven't even got to the China's and Teas, there are a few that do well for me. I can't grow them all, but I guess that's the price to pay for being able to grow my gallicas! I'll take it though :).
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mariannese
6 years agoOnly three roses means a very small garden so I would have to pick remontant roses, either quite short or a climbing rose. For climber I choose the bourbon Louise Odier. It has been very temperamental for me but hopefully the tiny imaginary garden will be healthy. For smaller roses I pick Rose de Rescht and Kronprinzessin Viktoria. But I shall miss my gallicas, albas and centifolias terribly, to say nothing of the early spinosissimas.
Louise Odier
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Brandon Garner St. Louis area z6
6 years agoCharles de Mills for sure would be in my only 3. I think I would put Licorice Tea in there as well. I am torn between Oneto Home Saffron, Malespina Red China,. Sorocco House Lavender, and Florence Bower's Pink Tea as the third one.
Sorocco House Lavender
Malespina Red China
Licorice Tea
Oneto Home Saffron
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Lisa Adams
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoI have a feeling this will change, but at this time my favorites are: Mel’s Heritage (although maybe I won’t count it, because it’s not an OGR, YET! I’m determined to make sure this beauty stays around for future generations. It’s THAT good!
Surprisingly, in my climate, my favorite is my star performer Louise Odier. She’s reportedly not for hot climates, but mine bloomed all spring and all through our hot summer. She rested in September and then bloomed some more in November. All that her first year in the ground, after spending a year in a small pot. I can’t wait to see what this year brings.
Louise Odier Rose · More InfoLike many others, I’d have to say Duchesse de Brabant. Mine has been plagued with powdery mildew off and one, but I’m working on solutions. I’ve increased her water and removed the invasive vinca vines that were robbing her of water. I’m reluctant to move her, so I’m working on planting something that will strategically provide her with some relief from the afternoon sun. In spite of her PM, she’s never been without a bloom, not for as long as I can remember.
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10/02/17 DdB · More InfoI would have to say Felicia, the Hybrid Musk, is in third place.(today) There’s something so delicate and ladylike about her blooms. Not one of my roses really wafts fragrance, because it’s just too dry a climate, but Felicia has a wonderful fragrance that’s especially detectable indoors. Her blooms are larger than the other HM roses I grow, and semi double. Her blooms hang down from the trellis in clusters of soft peachy pink, with stamens showing when fully open. She takes the shade well, and blooms often. She also grew from a 4 inch potted twig, to a 6’x8’ specimen in about two years. Go Felicia!
I love the slightly golden yellow centers!
I think my favorites list will change by next year. How could it not? I’ve just received some very special old roses from Cliff, and they are settling in. Ingrid gave me my dream rose, Annie Laurie McDowell. She’s in a good spot, and I can’t wait to see if she likes it. Ingrid also gave me ‘Wild Edric’ a DA, that’s no longer available. If her three were happy at her place, I think the one she gave me should do fine here, as well. I still have September Morn and Sui Mei Ren coming from Angel Gardens. I imagine that some of these will become favorites.
I have to throw in a few honorable mentions: Salet, Mrs. William G Koning, Leveson Gower, Clotilde Soupert, Baronne Prévost, White Pet, Marie Pavie, and Princesse Josephine de Flandres(This one was blooming when we dug it up. It was beyond gorgeous! I can’t find much info on this one, other than it’s a polyantha from 1888, Soupert & Notting. The pink/lilac blooms have a powdery look to them, that’s unique.) The rest are either favorites, or too soon to be sure, but I have a feeling they soon will be. Lisa
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6 years agoSeveral posts came up while I was laboring over my choices! I feel like such a cheater with all my “honorable mentions”. Nevertheless, I’m happy to see you also chose Louise Odier, Mariannese, even though we are in vastly different climates. Brandon, Licorice Tea and Oneto House Saffron are beautiful! I’m going to look them up, but only to look, NOT purchase:) Alana, if I could grow gallicas, I’m sure those dark purples would be at the top of the list. You’re right, we all pay a price for being able to grow what we can.
Flamingo Gardens Tea isn’t a favorite here yet, but as it matures , I’m liking it more and more! Lisa
(Sorry, I couldn’t help myself:)
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garden nut z9b
6 years agoHard to pick but I would go with either grandmas hat or Irene ford for #1 both are fragrant and can have packed blooms. Irene ford
for #2 it would have to be Elizabeth’s red china. I like the sweet fragrance it has. #3 would be Duchesse Brabant. Rommagi plot is another one that might be used in my top three. Rommagi plot bourbon
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6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoMy garden is young and my experience with different roses is limited, so three immediately came to mind.
First is Emmanuella de Mouchy, which I should maybe begin calling Irene Bonnet, because mine is repeat flowering. Whatever its name, it has grown quickly up my back stairs, it seems impervious to rain and to disease, and it is almost always in flower. I will put two pictures below:
These blooms are about eighteen feet up, climbing against my back stairs. In the next couple weeks, it looks like it will really explode into bloom.
The second is Général Schablikine. I like that it loves blooming in winter, and that its blooms nod and quill, and that the shading of the flowers is more complex than my other teas, with pinks and coppers mixing and melding as the petals open. Below is a picture--I may have posted this before:
Finally, number three is Fred Howard. The plant is a lanky grower, and I feel like I can treat it almost like Verbena bonariensis, as a see-through plant, but with amazing flowers. It towers about eight feet above my vegetable bed, and I probably don't prune it well, but it still is almost always in bloom. The flowers are amazingly changeable, cycling through pink, apricot and orange before finally settling on a brilliant clear yellow. I tried to capture that in this picture below, but it didn't turn out as well as I hoped:
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Vicissitudezz
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoI have no trouble saying that my top two are foundling roses; one is a NOID pink Tea that a friend nicknamed "Mighty Fine Pink Tea". And the other is a Bermuda Mystery Rose, "Smith's Parish"; my plant has never had the red stripes or flowers... it is creamy white or very pale yellow with pink tinges, so I call it "Smith's Parish White".
There are too many contenders for the third rose, so I'll stop while I'm ahead.
"MFPT":
"SPW":
Virginia
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6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoKen Wilkinson
6 years agoHere are my 3.
Pink Pet. Just put it in the ground and let it do it's thing. Stays in bloom up till frost. Beautiful fall foliage.
Rosa Rugosa (and Alba). Put it in the ground and get out of the way. Beautiful foliage and the flowers have a great scent.
Comt de Chambroud. Requires a little work but well worth it with a beautiful bush and blooms to die for.
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Rosefolly
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoportlandmysteryrose
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6 years agoI read this when initially posted and started pondering what my three would be, and have been checking back often to see others' choices. All of yours are such beauties! I'm very envious of those that I can't grow here due to our climate, but will stick with those I know do well in my current garden.
I knew my first two immediately...1. Mrs. BR Cant for fragrance, health and abundance of bloom (or Duchesse de Brabant if my three-rose garden wouldn't accommodate a girl of Mrs. BR Cant's size) and 2. Louis Philippe for fragrance, health and continuous bloom. Number three was much harder to decide on...would I choose another tea because they all have such heartbreakingly beautiful blooms or a modern, fragrant, long stemmed rose for a better cutting option or what? It has finally dawned on me, and now I'm not sure what took so long...3. Perle d'Or for fragrance, health and continuous bloom. A pink tea, a red china and an apricot poly...perfect! Although they might not last as long in a vase as the modern HTs, they are healthier, prettier garden plants and bloom enough to keep refilling the vase :)
Mrs BR Cant
Louis Philippe
Perle d'Or
and alternate Duchesse de Brabant
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