WWYD, feuding neighbors
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Comments (36)Wow the vitriol being spewed! LOL All over a fence! There's an old saying "Good fences make good neighbors." and I agree with that. For the most part, watchmelol said much of what I was thinking. And I believe there's more to this story than being told. I often wish we could get a hold of the other parties in some of these disputes when people want "opinions" of what we think and we get one side of the story. Then some start getting a rope, a horse and look for a tree. Probably on someone else's property! With the obvious hostility here I have to wonder: Is your intention, deep down, to get the free use of his property? You don't want the fence because it will be close to your driveway. Are you currently using his property for access to your car? Or shoveling snow? (Some localities prohibit moving your snow onto your neighbors' properties.) Or are you thinking of a potential Adverse Possession claim down the road on the property? I think the concern about snow is a legitimate one. However, you could ask for a chain link fence and maybe he'd be amenable to that rather than wood. Now that it's been dickered down to a two foot setback I know this much: If things got too hostile a neighbor could consider putting up a fence made from old pallets and whatever else they could find and plant the thorniest, ugliest, dirtiest bushes they could get so couldn't use their (effectively) landlocked property or attempt an AP claim on it. What are the rules on a berm? Brick planters? This is why I advise caution. Sometimes things can backfire. You still will have 3 feet of your land even if the fence is put on the line. How much do you need? Is that 2 feet really that valuable? I think I'd ponder that a bit. I'd also check into the law myself. Asking someone doesn't always get you factual info. Much like asking on an internet forum. When someone flings laws at me, I look for other laws. There's usually something else that can apply in some way. I suspect you're mad at yourself for not checking into the earlier construction. Whether you can do anything about it now is unknown. Much depends on the locale. You sound angry because the other side the fence is a line fence. Why would that make a difference? I don't understand. You also sound angry at yourself that you didn't do anything when they allegedly used your things for their parties. Why wouldn't you call the police if it bothered you so much? Many things don't add up here. And we can't even tune in Paul Harvey for "The rest of the story..." :) Here, you can't put up a 6' fence other than between the two houses. Otherwise it's either 3' or 4' height restriction. Apparently your area has some really oddball rules. I wonder what the rationale is for such. And as others have mentioned here you cannot put a fence up to the curb, there's a 15' setback for utilities, which makes sense. I'm confused about his alleged "pushing". He asks permission for most things, bold perhaps but hardly "pushing" AFAIC. I sense you're never going to get along with him and you're not going to do anything to improve the situation, and with some of the venomous comments here prodding you to escalate the tensions I'd just advise caution. You MIGHT make things a LOT worse for yourself. I'm not sure how social you are with the other neighbors, nor do I know how the "villain" gets along with others but if you become the outcast you would also have to be sure everything about you is compliant at all times or someone might start turning you in. The sad part is a bad neighbor happens now and then. Whether you're the "bad" neighbor or they're the "bad" one it doesn't make for good times. You might snicker a little thinking about stopping him from maintaining a fence you have to look at but you're chopping off your nose as they say when you do something like that. And getting snarky (as some like to say) with him about only part of a fence when you don't know what he's going to do on the other sides, well again, that could backfire. Before you get too smug about the "zoning permit" it probably means that he goes to the hall, pays $15 or $25 and pulls a permit. It's not complicated. No act of Congress is required for a permit for a compliant fence anywhere that I know of and actually it probably can't be denied as long as he writes the check. And having to go to a Board of Appeals? Someone must have been misinformed. You can't appeal something until action has been taken. I really encourage you to go do your homework so you know where you stand. Don't ask someone over the phone. You'll get all kinds of answers. Get the ordinances. It'll probably cost you for copies of it but some places have it on the internet. Whatever happens, good luck to all of you. I have a feeling this is not going to have a happy ending for anyone....See Moremorz8 - Washington Coast
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