I used Avon for all my facial moisturizers. I use the under eye moisturizer and both the day and night creams. Why Avon? I have a dear friend, who is also in the field of dental education, who sells Avon and donates 100% of the sales to Operation Smile. Operation Smile sends teams of Oral and Maxillofacial surgeons around the world to repair cleft lips and cleft palates. Operation Smile

I am happy with it and people frequently compliment me on my skin. At 64 with plans to retire in June lots of people say I don't show my age. Personally I think good sunscreen gets the most credit for few wrinkles, that and genetics.

I'm following! I hope someone knows the answer :)

Right now I just moisturize and keep makeup out of the creases! I use jojoba oil and a moisturizing cream. Then I use a primer just for the eye area and a cream concealer for my dark circles. My eyes are definitely aging quickly.

At some point you have to accept that it is going to happen and learn to avoid magnifying mirrors and reading glasses! ;-)

Products can help a bit, but most of the damage was done years ago through sun exposure and no product is going to change that.

I've tried many expensive brands and I've settled on the less expensive No 7 (by Boots) line after spending time in Europe and buying the brand at shops there. Target sells the product line.

https://www.target.com/s/boots+no+7+cosmetics

You could try not smiling, but that would be no fun! :-)

That's why I don't get my vision corrected and keep wearing glasses instead. Glasses are cute, wrinkles are not, glasses cover up and/or distract from the wrinkles. My mother used to talk about this and I didn't get it. Now I do.

ETA - mother also used to cover/distract from bags under the eyes (mentioned below). Works for that too.

I don't have deep lines but I do have dry skin and lots of crinkles under my eyes. I received a sample cream from Sephora and was VERY pleased. Unprompted, my young adult DD asked me what I did to my eyes. I purchased the full size as soon as possible! I have posted about this in a previous skin care thread.

Belif aqua bomb

Not sure whether this is related or hijacking the thread, but any recommendations to reduce under eye puffiness?

I agree about the glasses. I wear mine more than I used to and see myself eventually wearing them all the time as I continue to age. I have a few different ones I change up depending on what I'm wearing and my mood.

Do you wear makeup? I keep my foundation out of my eye area, use concealer only where I need it under my eyes and lately I've been setting it with NYX translucent finishing powder. You need very, very little and I still dust off the area with a clean brush. I apply with a flat brush and don't use the baking method. It keeps my concealer from creasing and does makes the area look better.

Thanks for the suggestions.

I only wear make up twice a week. I do not use foundation or anything under my eyes.

I will look into No. 7, Avon, and the Sephora product.

Thank you!

I had cataract surgery in my left eye yesterday, the right was done two weeks ago. My eye surgeon has a plastic surgeon in his practice and I was perusing their book in the waiting room. You would not believe what these guys can do for sagging eyelids and wrinkles. 30 years-gone. I'd be dead before they came back.

I read about CeraVe Eye Repair Creme on GW, and order via Amazon Subscribe & Save. It is wonderful and not expensive. I stopped using and switched to a few Drunk Elephant products per DD1. Within a month I was back to the CeraVe.

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I don't have wrinkles or sagging but do have very dark shadows under the eyes-- worse on days that I am tired, sick or headachy, but always there. I assume they are genetic but still would like to reduce the darkness. Does anyone else deal with this, and what have you tried?

As someone posted above, strong sunscreen starting in your 20s is your best defense, along with a good hat or visor (I always wore/wear a big golf hat when out running, walking, or working in the yard. I may be delusional, but it seems to me that the only area that is really showing my age is the area that sun was still able to hit -- my neck!)

A question for d_gw about the Belif product...I have always read you shouldn’t use a product made for your facial skin on your eye area. Is the Belif cream made for eyes or what? It sounds like a great product.

Raee, I had dark under eye circles all my life. So did my mother. When I had my eyelids done, the surgeon did a laser procedure on the lower lids which fixed that. I was truly amazed. There was a little redness & itching for a couple of days which a little Benadryl helped along with the special cream they gave me to apply. And of course no makeup for a week or so with the surgery. But I would do it again. I am now 69and the eyelids still look great.

Outside, I use the aqua bomb around my eyes and on my neck. I have had face creams that irritate if I get them too close to my eyes but I haven't had any trouble with aqua bomb.

A couple of injections of Botox or Dysport will temporarily erase your under eye wrinkles. It lasts about 3 months. I've tried all kinds of creams, to no avail.

I have read and heard from a dermatologist the best method is a Co2 fractal laser surgery. UGH!

I also hear that botox is not appropriate for under eye wrinkles. I may go visit the derm based on reviews from friends. I will keep you all posted!

Thanks OutsidePlaying, I will ask around about that!

What is the baking method?

I had tried Cerave eye cream (and other products in the line) due to so many favorable reviews. I didn't notice anything different at all- maybe I am too far gone. I have been using this cheap st ives collagen moisturizer on the rest of my face and really like it. So far I have found nothing really to help with my under eyes. A while ago I remember asking about the aqua bomb.......I may have to actually try that. I will hold out hope yet:)

Sheilaaus122, hate it didn't work for you. I don't have circles (unless no sleep) but use for fine lines.

I've used various Principal Secret lines for decades, and have been using the Reclaim Botanical line since it came out. The neck cream is amazing. I customize my box each time I order, and get 10 pieces (the more you buy, the less each piece costs). DH uses too. I probably place orders 3-4 times a year.

DD1 swears by Drunk Elephant, so I thought I'd try when it was discounted 20%. Big mistake! Gave most of it to the DDs after it started drying out my skin. I did keep Marula oil. DD1's skin looks great. Everyone is different! I now know not to change from what works just to try something different.

Linelle - It can be used after applying foundation and concealer. You heavily apply a finishing powder (pack it on) and leave it 'bake' for 5-10 minutes before dusting excess off with a brush. The heat from your face sets everything in place. Can be applied by patting on with a brush or by using a dry or damp beauty blender or sponge. Some people will just set around the eyes but you could also set the whole face.

General notes - Thanks to marketing some companies seem to use the terms setting powder and finishing powder interchangeably.

Setting powders come in loose powders or compressed and can be tinted to match skin or translucent. Finishing powders are generally used after a setting powder, or alone skipping the setting powder, to blur fine lines and pores and are mostly translucent. I actually stay away from setting powders but a tiny amount of the finishing powder around my eyes after concealer does make a happy difference for me and diminishes the lines AND keeps my concealer from creasing to heck. That's actually why I started using it in the first place but was pleased about the overall nice finish it gives under the eyes.

Link to the NYX I was talking about above.

NYX

As I mentioned very little of this is key IMO or you may think you dusted everything off but when you look in the mirror an hour later the leftover white powder has settled into a pile around the eyes and looks weird. I did find that out first hand and that was without baking. I have tested the baking method with this one and others but didn't care for it in general.

Since they're not created equal sometimes you have to play around with brands (or research other people who have) and combinations until you find the right one that works for you. I find even the moisturizing sunscreen I use can change the rest of my face makeup for the good or bad.

I always thought that powder made wrinkles more apparent, but I've never tried a finishing powder like Shee describes. I'll have to check it out.

As far as not using a face product under the eyes, I think that is just a marketing ploy to get us to buy more products.

I use a finishing powder, too. If just seems to help set everything a bit (altho I hardly use any - just use a bit on a big fluffy brush lightly all over). I use Clinique's. From what I've read, baking is for the younger set (altho I don't really like it on a young person either). It makes wrinkles stand out on a more mature face.

Retin A. Years ago, I asked my Derm why my wrinkles were worse under my eyes. He asked what strength Retin A I was using. I said, “Well, I don’t put it under my eyes. It says not to”. He went, “Pffft. It’s part of your face. The part the wrinkles the most”. I started using it under my eyes and had to go through the peeling stage. But it definitely helps.

I am!! :-)

Me, too! I will only use cruelty free products, so that limits my options.

People you meet are taken by your personality and cheerfulness, your happy smile and friendliness.

Wrinkles are not important. Personality is.

What is the obsession of this country's women with looking like you're 20 years younger? Beauty comes from within. Live a healthy and happy life.

I don't want to look 20. Forty would be just fine.

I think everyone wants to look their best regardless of their age.

Yes, I'm not trying for 20. I'm 62. But I've lost a considerable amount of weight and actually look better than I did when I was younger. So minimizing the wrinkles is important to me. I'm trying to make up for lost time, I suppose. I want to look as believeably young as possible. As we age, the fat in our faces seems to disappear, and my cheeks have slackened. Of course, losing weight contributed to it, but that couldn't be helped. I work out now, I was a total couch potato before. I eat healthy, before I ate anything and everything I wanted, and more. My point is, that with gravity and the other ravages of aging, unless one considers a whole body lift, trying to look 20 is an impossible goal. I just want to be the best ME. And I try to dress stylishly. Not too young, but with some of the current trends. I love boots. With lower heels. I've got about a dozen pair. And just a couple of injections of Dysport under the eyes is like magic for my wrinkles.

I guess my issue is less wrinkles but more bags or puffiness? I am not trying to look 20 but I feel like the change under my eyes has kind of changed my looks. I don't know how to explain it but when I see photos ( and I try to not look at many) some look fine but many really show the under eye area. I guess it's genetic but I just don't love the change. I am not that wrinkled but I guess it's gravity or the loss of fat/collagen whatever you call it that the eye area is sort of sunk ? So I use eye creams and such but I suspect the tone of the skin is really not so bad, will improve, but the sunk thing will not be affected unless I consider surgery (which I won't) or fillers (but I am very unclear and not comfortable with that)..........oh well.

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Shee, thanks for explaining baking. It would seem to me that you need a pretty smooth canvas (skin) for that to work. Otherwise, it will either sit in or on top of wrinkles and eventually crack and look worse.

Catty, I use Retin A and tend to cover my entire face, but am careful around my eyes.

I don't know how old all of you are, but once you get wrinkles and gravity begins its work, I don't think you're going to get any lasting fixes from creams and powders. That ship has already sailed.

About 15 years ago I had my eyes done. I had inherited little pooches under my eyes. Lots of people have them. They looked okay when I was young, but as I aged, they became very baggy. Ugh. The surgery took care of it. However within a couple of years I noticed that the skin under my eyes looked a little crepey, like skin where there's substantial weight loss. I had some laser work done and that took care of that.

Now, guess what? No bags, so a little tendency to hollow. A bit of filler every 18-24 months takes care of it. I'm not talking crazy cheek fillers, just a little spackle here and there.

Has anyone used any of the Dr. Hauschka beauty products sold at Whole Foods? I usually walk past them on my way to the check stand and lately stop and get a little bit of moisturizer from the tester for my hands. The smell is divine. Not sure I'd want it on my face, but maybe on my hands.

Linelle, what do you mean by having your eyes done? What type of surgery was it?

What kind of laser did you use?

Linelle, have you checked Beautypedia to see if any reviews?

fwiw, my older sister (61yo) has never taken care of her skin, fine lines and some acne scars (but nothing serious).. She recently had Smartskin + Ablative CO2 Fractional Resurfacing done on her face, neck and chest. Recovery time was about 10 days. It is not inexpensive. The difference is amazing.

AK, sorry, I should have used the technical term: blepharoplasty. My main objective was to get rid of the ugly bags under my eyes. There is no cover up for that, in fact, it only makes them look worse. I was okay with my upper lids but I didn't want to look unbalanced (!) so they did just enough to make my uppers and lowers look matched. Despite bruising up quite a bit--I will bruise if you look at me the wrong way--everything healed up very quickly and there wasn't much pain involved.

The laser was the full-bore one under general anesthesia. I can't remember the exact term. After I healed it was fantastic. The problem is, you look very bad the first week, horrible. No going anywhere. It's been 12 years since I had it. I would do it again, but the down time gives me pause.

A couple of years ago I had a less deep laser treatment and thought the results were kind of meh. They recommended a series of three treatments, but I didn't follow through.

Joseph: Wrinkles and sags tend to continue, but those bags of fat under my eyes ain't coming back in this lifetime.

If for any reason I find myself single within the next decade or so, I'm going to be out some serious cash with a plastic surgeon. My wife and customers can look at me the way I am, but if I got back in the game, I'd need a surgeon and a gym membership, no doubt.

My husband was still alive and we were happily married when I got my eyes done. He loved me just as I was, but sometimes your self-image needs a little TLC. I'm the one wearing this face and if a little this or that makes a difference, I say go for it. It did not change my overall look. I considered it repairing a flaw, rather than a search for a more youthful appearance somewhat trashed by sun worship. I don't really want to look younger, just pretty good for my age. I'm very candid about my age, so I'm not trying to fool anyone.