Her supposed theft was done by friends of hers that are from Melbourne and the Tampa area. I know this because they were talking about using meat cleavers to cut her plants and how that the list of supposed stolen plants contain 90 percent names that she never owned and was done because of the way she robs people by conning them into buying cuttings she never sends to them, sends rotted cuttings to beginner plumeria growers and keeps their money and will not replace the cuttings also how she likes to lie about people to get them banned from groups because she does not like them. Seems like what goes around comes around. Way to go STD and RG perhaps with your actions she and others will learn to not treat others like crap and to slander them when she knows nothing about them and has never even had the opratunity to meet them. Read Below Why Does Maui Plumeria Forum Under Sell It's Own Supporting Members? Ban Or Bash Member's For Stating Factual Comments? Dear Jennifer Bruner, Hetty Ford, et. all, This letter describes my long standing relationship with Jennifer at MPG. In late 2002 or early 2003 I got a call from Jennifer stating she was booted by Spike from Garden Web Plumeria Forum. I explained to her that having a Forum and a Business was very risky to say the least. Often, times people are resistant to take advice, myself included. She created Maui Plumeria Gardens, Big Island Grower's and Maui Plumeria Forum. A lot of infighting occurred there as people jogged for position to sell their own products through her web site and feelings were hurt in the process. Conflicts of interests were abundant. Doggy threads were treated as unusual punishment. Good people were hurt. See, many people including Jennifer Bruner, were booted from Garden Web Plumeria by getting Spiked. Dutchlady, simply left on her own to pursue her own addenda. Hundreds of new member's went to MPG Forum and were very comfortable selling and promoting their products and services, agendas and selling right under Jennifers nose and she was allowing it to happen believing, good will would prevail. NOT! WELL IT COULD NOT HAPPEN THAT WAY. AND SHE KNEW THIS SINCE 2002. The trouble started long ago. She (Jennifer) tried to please everyone and in this Capitalistic Society we live in. That is impossible. Just ask; George W. Bush. Her friend and confidant from the Netherlands, "Dutchlady" HETTY FORD OF NAPLES, FL took over the MPG Forum as an apprentice, novice, self proclaimed Plumeria Alcoholic. She was no more experienced then any other member, however driven by Greed and JenniferÂs approval ran the Forum, as an outsider like Charles Manson and/or Adolph Hitler. She controlled this Plumeria forum. Whether you believe me or not? This Netherlands female, "Dutchlady" (Hetty) was devastated one day, coming home to her house that was ripped off. Many selective Plumeria plants were stolen. She set out financial monentary bounties. Had news magazine articles written "Plumeria thief In Naples Florida On The Loose." She believed someone with vast knowledge stole her best Plumeria plants. Raving on and on for days even months. How could you do this to me? She "Hetty" sent back butchered cuttings she thought were unnoticeable asking for full refunds. She was a blockade of lies, treachery. Hetty Ford of Naples, FL still will not admit she knows nothing more then anybody else? I know the inside scoop!! Hetty is "desperate and very lonely." Hetty preys on all the newbieÂs (new to plumeria) with her "talons" out to feed on them for freebies. Making friends, with them and stabbing then in the back! Jennifer Bruner allowed the madness to continue for years knowing this kind of Forum, had "BAD FAITH" written all over it. I lost my good friend Wendie Bloomquist who once posted a litter of LabradorÂs as her dog had simply had puppies. She was trampled by another member about pet overpopulation "Clair" an animal activist berated her for just posting puppy pictures.! Wendie had a fragile heart and passed on last year, but not before people like "Jennifer Bruner of MPG" allowed this madness to continue. Would Spike let these actions happen? Certainly, not in this lifetime. Spike, was the moderator, (Garden Web Plumeria Forum) who booted Jennifer and a host of other looser's and seller's in a disussion forum. Then arrives the wonderful solo hacker who destroyed Jennifer's business. The non - backed up Forum records were all lost. People went to the site and it was GONE. Jennifer, the person who has great products, now suffers without monthly sales of $10,000.. Only a few members who re-joined her forum. 90% of the member's left for good! Smart decision! Those good old days are gone for Jennifer, I call her Mupsy-Wupsey. WHOOPS I MADE A MISTAKE BOOTING PLUMERIAS AND PALMS, aka Pap's of Sherman Oaks, CA 91403. Because, she alone is responsible for the hurt inflicted on her own paid supporting members. Jack Morgan, of Corona, CA Kimi's Plumeria the GOOD GUY was criticized for having forty-five years of Plumeria cultivation practical knowledge to the Netherlands ladyÂs (Dutchlady) Hetty Ford, of Naples, FL three to five years Plumeria propagating. Hetty, had the majority voting. Like the intellectual properties the software companies own. ThatÂs how Al Gore lost the election. Electoral votes. I want Jennifer to know she is a blithering idiot thinking this double discussion and selling system would work and the policies could be enforced without infighting and bashing? Jennifer has great products and services. Her Plumeria are good! However, to allow her own customerÂs sell their own stuff on her forum is "sheer lunacy" and time told that story. (She knew this in 2002) Jennifer Bruner, the businesswomen has shown the world she was booted from Garden Web Plumeria Forum like many other selling outcasts. Tried and failed to accommodate her customers fairly. Jennifer Bruner's family suffered because of it. Her family has severly suffered, because she never ran a tight ship. Mupsey Wupsies, captainÂs duties were that of the "Sinking Titanic." I am a changed man. I look in the mirror and see a man who has been dead before. A man whose words severely punish those with different views then my own. Driven by the "Lord Jesus Christ" creator of the universe. Don't ever mess with Pap's, Papsmear or Papoose! I will destroy your creadability and your business of hurt, greed and trash talk by continuing until I am given a cease and desist from the Secretary of State of California>. Mirror mirror, on the wall, WHO can slam then most of all? "Plumeria and Palms (Pap's) can and will".......I will never be censored in the USA, where freedom of speach is a God given right of the citizens! FIFTH AMENDMENT. Ashamed? No way! You inflicted hurt that cannot be erased. You did this all by yourself Mup's! Selling, infighting on a Discussion Forum. No department of Agriculture certificate. Does not grow two feet above ground as mandated by the agriculture Laws. Plumeria and Palms, aka, Pap's Supporting Member MPG Flatline Films, LLC, CA, LLC & Fraudcasting Productions, dba. Makes it very clear. Maui Pumeria Gardens, Forum has unfair business practices. Supporting members pay money to advertize for bandwith and are banned and bashed for doing so. Beware and don't be a fooled into believing lies & promises...Read the user agreement! tags: maui,plumeria,gardens,forum,garden web,big island grower's,hetty ford,jennifer bruner,doug,kimi's,discussion PAP'S SMEAR CAMPAIGN

All is well here, except I may need to change my user name to sweatinginplace :). We lost our power Saturday at midnight and Uverse (wifi and tv) cut out Monday afternoon, so we've been completely out of touch. I live in an older neighborhood full of lush tree canopy and aging power poles and lines. We always lose electricity quickly and get it back slooooooowly. As of this morning we'd seen no sign of a tree trimming crew much less power trucks to deal with a lot of downed trees and lines. FPL, our energy provider, claims power will be back by midnight Sunday but based on past storm experience I doubt it--I'd bet midweek next week earliest. Fortunately we had no damage; we have huge oak trees surrounding the house and I was so afraid one would fall, or a large limb would crash down. Despite the misery of living without electricity my wonderful, wonderful husband has kept me as comfortable as possible. We have a generator and he really likes working with electricity so over the years he's set it up to run the power through circuits into the house, meaning normal operation of lights, tv (except after UVerse disconnected so no signal), ceiling fans and small appliances. This time we realized the generator would also power the wall unit AC we have in our Florida room so I dragged a mattress out there and have been comfortable to sleep. Forget roses and candy, THAT is a keeper of a spouse! And we feel incredibly blessed that the vacation/retirement house we bought 5 months ago in Key Largo came through the storm unscathed-HUGE relief. We have direct deep water access meaning the house is on a short canal on the Atlantic side of the key; climb in the boat and 45 seconds later you're on the open ocean. So we were frantically worried up in Miami about the storm surge and of course the wind. The water came within inches of the top of our stairs from the dock to the back yard but didn't overflow into the pool or lower level. Minor wind damage to screens but overall the house is in perfect condition. Most amazingly of all--the electricity came back yesterday, the UVerse is humming and everything is perfectly normal inside! We decided to bug out of Miami so packed up the cats and the refrigerators, turned off the generator and now I"m sitting comfortably in air conditioning with laundry going downstairs and all the comforts of home. We've got many friends down here and the damage and destruction is heart breaking. Even in the upper Keys which didn't get the full force storm, lots of people have flood damage and the debris fields are stunning to see. However it is awe inspiring to watch the outpouring of help. From FEMA trucks to electric restoration convoys to giant Salvation Army semis with supplies to C-130 planes and helicopters flying over in formation....a steady stream of resources. It's a reminder that despite politics or divisions within our country, when something terrible happens Americans pull together to help.

Checking back in. Got back from georgia yesterday morn at 5:45am after a long half day and night on the road with my cats. Have no power but i am in a walmart using wifi. Slept at my sister's house last night across town, she has power, no internet, and but no damage. My house has minimal damage and lots of yard cleanup. We dodged a huge bullet it could have been so worse. up in georgia we did not escape irma, it barreled thru and knocked down limbs and electricity. My bro's, where i was staying is on a well so no electricity means no water, no flushing and they had no secondary lighting...no candles or oil lamps or even battery lanterns. Luckily i brought a couple of mine figuring i would need them to deal with the cats that had to stay out in the truck. Bro had a good sized limb fall on his brand new out building. His brand new building needs roof repair already. Hope the power will come back on soon.

Sultry, I'm so thankful you're okay, and that you checked in. I figured you probably had issues with power and/or the Internetz, but I was a bit worried that your situation might be worse than that. I'm also glad that you're staying away from chainsaws. They creep me out also, and I've never even seen that movie. I can't send you a Golden Celebration, but if you do have issues with other, unpatented roses, please let us know. Someone may have a spare that they haven't decided what to do with. My rooting success is hit-and-miss, but I am willing to try to root anything I have that you might need. I've been playing pick up sticks today, so I found this blog post about oaks automatically dropping twigs rather interesting. Take care, and please let us know if any of your other roses got a bit too much brackish water. Virginia