Really, I had no idea! Do they need part shade in hot inland areas? What are the rules, you didn't mention them. I am mostly a native plant gardener but have a spot in my backyard for another fruit tree. Do tell.

No shade- the hotter the better. One must? Never allow frost to touch it for the first two winters in ground. After that,they can take the occasional 30-32f. I'm not in a frost free zone for sure. Give plenty of summer water the first 2-3 summers also. Feed them..I like to feed to start a flush..then a second lighter feeding when they are in flush red. Gets the most out of it.

They wont rival natives in water frugality. Or most fruit tree's in speed of growth. But once they get going,the fruit are very sweet and of course all organic. Market fruit are anything but that.

9a is a little cold..but if you have hot ,hot Livermore type summers? Its worth a try.

I am in Livermore and as you stated, we get hot summers which comes with frost in the winter. Could I cover it with a frost cloth in the winter? If I did get a Mango, I would keep it 6 ft, so I could get to the fruit. Do you think that might work?

No, I don't think it would work after reading the link you posted. That is what I originally thought but Hayward is close to me and thought, just maybe. Hayward, however, doesn't get much frost like Livermore.

There is a gardener in Livermore that has Royal Poinciana and Royal palms. He has to cover and heat them in winter with Christmas lights. But once spring starts,all that comes off.

You might try it. They sell them cheap at Home Depot. Just think,with only have to protect them for 2 months,the other 10 they can be grown like any other fruit tree.

Also Kerry- they can be pot grown. You can keep potting then up as they grow all you want. Or,order a ""condo" type Mango that never outgrows an oak barrel. If I was in Livermore? Knowing that each summer WILL be hot? I go large pots..store under something like a patio in winter.

Ok, thanks for the additional info. It is worth a shot. I can always order a frost cover for it.

Do you know what types they are selling at the box stores? I finally got around to starting a seedling for an attempt to grow (Keitt, as it is all i see in stores now).

Manila is every where-HD. Rhino- you seen the Fremont Mango on YouTube "Northern California Mango"?..Now,I know that area..and its really warm there. Its about 5f warmer every summer day then Hayward-closer to San Jose summers. No frost as its on a hill.

But Manila can get by..plant by wall,put black plastic under it ( water plenty) and other tricks of the trade.

If you order Mangoes? Baileys Marvel is a fast grower. Glenn has shown good in the bay area. Valencia Pride's fast growth makes it a good in ground try. Keitt is good too

For big pots..all the condo Mangoes you see online. Glenn does well potted too.

Right now,I think the Home Depots and Lowes have stopped selling them because of fall. But next summer try a Manila. I wish I could do real in person help-lol. Because I would talk all of you into buying 4-5 of them. That way,when they do produce..you get 4-5x what the usual single tree puts out on the bay area. Pick 20 instead of 5 first fruiting.

I have no clue where I can put more trees right now. Do you think keeping them a couple years in a pot then planting out is viable? That would give me some time to slowly get rid of some of the original/overgrown plants around the yard.

I've done that,but it does make them more frost prone unless you move them. When you are in Livermore..you know there's frost AND heat depending on the season. The bay area might not get cold..but we miggggght..lol. That kind of thing.If your going for in ground might be best to wait.

I see them at HD for less then 35$..I you plant them in a row or however they don't shade each other,when they have fruit,you will have a nice harvest.

They are tricky..but the point is,it can be done in the bay area. Or inland norcal.

I know that at 9'+ mine isnt out of the woods...maybe never. So stay tuned!

I took a look- and today is the first ripe Mango fruit.

The final result!

That’s a nice looking mango! I hope my tree will continue to grow up quick!

What are you feeding them?

Vigaro palm and tropical mostly..but I think the organic brands with "guano" can be better. They seem to deepen the green. Mangoes are not heavy feeders I notice-be careful not too overfeed. No wonder in the third world its mostly plant,harvest and prune for orchard growth. Not a high maintenance orchard tree.

I watch them on YouTube about Mexican or Indian agriculture.

One from the ladder. It's my own supermodel. Indulge me the excess! Thanks!

In spring of 2012,this was a 2' stick after a Jan 2012 frost had got it. Since then,no setbacks.

So my Keitt seedling is about a foot now. Should I keep it in the pot indoors over the winter or plant it and try to keep it going through the winter?

Other question, I have an area that saturates with water during the winter. Would that be a poor place to plant it? If so any thoughts on what I can grow there?

thanks, r

I would not plant it out yet. It needs to be babied over winter- kept from frost and too much rain. Thats easy to do in a pot.

Funny,but I just started a Keitt too. Its just too expensive for me to order other types at $100-250. If it was a sure thing,maybe.

That spot Rhino is a no go. They hate standing water,let alone our cold winter waters. My doing well Mango is my third effort and I think the difference is that I amended the soils with perlite,and its on a slight bank..water drains well. I had a Manila doing well on the side of my house one summer..but when winter came and the sun angle was low,that spot was shaded at the soil level all the time and wet. It died in spring.

Also if you don have gutters.never plant near the eaves also. If you do? Thats a great spot up againts the house if facing south or west. You dont want a north or east direction.

Mangoes love hot. It can never be too hot for them. They do fine in spots that would burn a cactus..