In case this helps

I highly recommend B.M Gray Cashmere. I have used it and loved it. It isn’t gray; it isn’t blue and it isn’t green, until it gets into your space and then it just works…like magic. A true chameleon color.

Beautiful color, but wouldn't activate the orange and make the orange even stronger as it's kind of a complement?

My trim was not nearly as high quality as yours, but did have the same "orange" tone.

SW Requisite Gray was an awesome color to tone down the orange.

Good luck!

i quickly photoshopped the gray cashmere using the hex code for the color. does that look like the paint?

jn, requisite gray has the same low LRV as bennington. what do you think about alpaca? its the shade lighter on the strip.

again i used the hex code from SW but somehow it doesnt match my SW brochure swatch

Alpaca might work. It looks better on my fan deck than it does on my monitor.

Edit. Your photoshop looks peachy on my phone. You don't want that...

What about bm classic gray?

insuppose stonington gray wouldn't work, would it?

I always thought blue-greens have a way of bringing out the beauty of wood - btw your wood is exceptionally beautiful I think - wonder if its chestnut or one of those old growth woods that isnt used much anymore.

I think it's original heart pine. Or maybe fir?

Ok what about any of these? I know they are all go to colors (except maybe barren plains) but maybe they are neutral enough? Like gray owl has qualities of grey cashmere but a bit more muted? I'm putting in my current Bennington for contrast.

Now or if I have a higher LRV but a cooler color, will the room still seem brighter?

That is awesome to see! If I wanted a higher lrv, could I do requisite gray at 50% ? Does paint work like that?

i have a dark hallway upstairs that I was thinking of painting white duck or incredible white (both sw)

I was hoping one of those underton masters/pros would have some advice.

Tho advice from anyone helps!

That is awesome to see! If I wanted a higher lrv, could I do requisite gray at 50% ? Does paint work like that?

Yes and No. Sounds perfectly reasonable that a paint color should work that way but it doesn't. Cut a formula and you make a completely new color. It may have echoes of the original color but no telling how much until you mix it, let it dry and either look at it or measure it.

Revere Pewter is a good example. Can't tell you how many people ended up shocked and disappointed at the result you get when you cut Revere Pewter by 50% because it doesn't look anything like what you'd imagine "half of Revere Pewter" should look like. Instead, 50% Revere Pewter looks like Whisper CSP-500 or Shoreline 1471.

If you want all the characteristics of Requisite Gray but lighter look at Picket Fence BM CSP-370, Collingwood OC-28, or SW 6071 Popular Gray

I wish there was a color between sw incredible white and sw agreeable gray. I like that they have brown undertones.

Light Pewter BM 1464 or Balboa Mist OC-27 both fit that specification.

And that article about LRV has more than a few things incorrect.

Thank you Lori!

what undertones should we be going for with this orangy wood?

we tried samples on boards today of barren plains, grey owl, edgecomb gray, stonington gray, and Bennington @50%.

None of them look good, except the Bennington at 50 looked ok, but I'm not sure I want to paint over the current Bennington 100% just for a little

lighter look.

I might just invest in 100w sconces instead...

what undertones should we be going for with this orangy wood?

The way blogosphere has mangled theories of undertones so they apply to paint and architectural materials is different from the way color really works. So, I can't answer the question as asked.

However, the wood tone does indeed belong to the orange hue family as you already know. Identifying the color of the wood by hue family means you can organize it on a color wheel (either physically or in your head).

From this point, the standard guidelines of color harmony that a color wheel handily illustrates applies. Paint color from the same hue family or neighboring hue families won't contrast with the orangish wood tones and as a result, it will be softened somewhat.

Colors that belong to other hue families are going to create contrast and intensify the orange wood tones.

So, what do you want to achieve? Lessen the intensity of the orange wood tones or emphasize it?

To lessen it, you were on the right path. You should try Picket Fence BM CSP-370, Collingwood OC-28, SW 6071 Popular Gray, Light Pewter BM 1464 and Balboa Mist OC-27.

The pictures of what you have now look beautiful on my monitor. I'd go with the higher watt bulbs as you mentioned above. The trim is lovely and not too "orange" at all to me.

Back in the day, people never used to complain about "orange" wood trim. Woodwork in a house was considered to be BROWN . Or maybe sort of a neutral non-color.

One might ask what is different about now vs. back then. No, people werent all colorblind then and incapable of seeing orange. It was that the palettes they used incorporated the wood tones into their overall color scheme. You can still do this with modern contemporary paint colors, but you have go about choosing them in a thoughtful way and perhaps purchasing samples to test out at home.

I just spent $70 dollars on samples! All to find that the current color works the best.

Also, this wood is def orange. I wish I had brown craftsman trim. Even the dark kind. That looks beautiful with the kinds of paint colors I love.

also this wood is 160 years old it yellows over time. And it's not a shellac over it (which turns orange) either. It's just pumpkin heart pine and they call it pumpkin for a reason ;)

If if I could stain this darker I would. But it's pine and it's my understanding it doesn't stain well.

Opinions on below?

Bg at 50

Edgecomb gray

Gray owl

Stonington gray

Barren plain

It's a beautiful color but anything cool makes the orange pop. Even gray owl.

I just spent $70 dollars on samples! All to find that the current color works the best.

my goals are to lighten and brighten the space, as well as MINIMIZE the orange tones of the wood.

A full spectrum paint color might be a good solution. If you have a C2 Paint distributor near you, check out C2-785 Archival.

Thanks! My last condo was all c2 paint

What is the lrv on archival? It doesn't say on the c2 website

Good question. It's 66 so it is a snidge brighter than Barren Plain and it's full spectrum as well.

You have to download a PDF of C2's Light Reflectance Values from this page.

That's only one room and when you look at the room as a whole, it looks good.

I have no problem with the wall color there. White and tan is always a classic. I have been 100% happier since painting the trim in the dining room but do not plan to paint the trim in the library, living room, or the upstairs. You can see photos of the intact rooms if you look again at my initial post. If you reread it as well you can see that this was all explained

Its not even white it's sw incredible white which is actually a very light brown.

and the adjoining kitchen has white trim as the previous owners painted it white

My question was for a paint color in all the other rooms that DONT have white trim

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