Beautification Project: landscaping a City park site - help!
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Help me Create A Fruit Park.
Comments (19)Hi RusticBohemian- First let me say, I applaud your spirit and enthusiasm. I think its a great idea, but I think you really want to listen to the posts above. That isnÂt to say you shouldnÂt do it. I just think you need to modify you plan just a bit with more emphasis on low maintenance fruits and a long term maintenance care plan. Like others have said, for the most part, most of these plants are not simply "Plant and pick". ItÂs more of an augment soil, plant, nurture, water, fertilize, spray, water, prune, thin, more TLC, spray, spray, pick. That said, there are certainly plants that are easy to care for than others. As HarvestMan said, certainly raspberries would be a good choice. I think mine are mostly care-free, except for the mowing down (the easiest thing to do) in the winter, and adding of compost in the spring. (maybe you could even do that all at once?) If you set them up with good containment in the beginning (so they donÂt spread to where you donÂt want them to be I think this could be about as close to plant and pick as you could get. Though I may have to disagree (gasp) with HarvestMan on one point There are better varieties out there than Heritage these days, and you can search this forum for more info on those. Thornless blackberries would be another candidate. Like my raspberries, mine have been pretty much disease free, and for the most part, the birds stay away. The issue here is that normally youÂd want a really solid trellis here. But, in your case, you might want to go with the less productive free standing varieties. Again, youÂre going to want to prune out the old canes in the spring, and give them some compost. Possibly some blueberries? The issue here is you have to do netting to keep the birds away. HereÂs a case where you would probably want to amend the soil first to get your PH down. Mullberries would be another good candidate. Apples eh? Like the others have said, these guys are going to be a LOT more work here. At the very least, you should consider only disease resistant varieties. And, in your case, IÂd recommend only the most DR ones. Even with that, youÂre still going to need a solid spraying plan. I doubt bagging the apples would be an option here as they would attract a lot of attention and perhaps people would see them as litter? Apples may be a bit beyond your plan. Another concern I have is water. You are going to need to water these plants pretty often. Do you have a plan get water to these sites? IÂm picturing a level-site, which wonÂt have much shade, and these many plants could suck up a lot of water. I really hope your project succeeds. Just make sure you put in all the logistics before hand to make sure it does. If you havenÂt done any home orcharding before, IÂd be prepared to spend the next many months and years determining the right (low maintenance, hearty, disease resistant) varieties for your idea. Like others have said definitely start small if at all possible. YouÂll learn so much, and it will change the way proceed. Good luck! This is a very big undertaking. -Glenn...See MoreKansas City - here I come! (help pls.)
Comments (49)I read through this thread last night, but was unable to post to it. Rather than read through it again, I'll touch base on a few things that stood out in being a native of Kansas City. Welcome to Kansas City AprilK and to the rest of you that have migrated here, or plan to soon. The Brookside area is a lovely area with lots of beautiful well established gardens and fully mature trees that are loaded with robust color and foliage. As for the Kansas vs. Missouri thing, grins, I grew up in Kansas and moved to the Missouri side in my early 20's. I moved back to Kansas only for a short while back in the 90's, 8 months to be precise, and I could not WAIT to buy a home again north of the river on the Missouri side. I've been in Clay County now for over half of my life and love it. Both states have their pros and cons, and much of it is more about the neighborhoods you select than it is what state you live in. There are "some" differences in politics and it shows in some of the ways laws are governed; especially Family Law. Also, a thing to keep in mind whenever seeking to move here, you should consult with your insurance agencies to get quotes on both homeowners insurance and auto rates; the amounts you pay might make the difference you spend in a mortgage or rent payment. Plus, the insurance companies are privy to high and low crime areas; it's a great way to weed out some of the less safe districts. The higher the crime rate, the higher the insurance premiums. One final note on location; if you are considering living on one side of the state line while working across the border, you will pay taxes to both states. Ok, all that said for the "transplants" (pun intended), now for some garden talk. I noticed multiple references to Peonies and wanted to mention a personal negative experience I had with them. I suggest that you do not plant them near the foundation of your home unless you enjoy ants. Peonies are a magnet for ants and if not tended to properly; they will invade your home. The previous home I purchased had a beautiful peony garden across the front of the home's foundation; very mature and robust. Once I got in the home, there was a constant issue in having to deal with sugar ants trying to invade my home. Finally, once I learned that the peonies were the root cause of the ants being along the foundation of the home; I moved them away from the home's base and planted them along the outside property lines where they drew the ants away from the home; doing so resolved the problem. While I love peonies; the flowers are short term on many species. Right now, with it being the end of summer and heading into autumn; we are beginning a new planting season here in Kansas City. The autumn is a great time for planting bulbs that require a hard freeze to bloom the following season. Irises, tulips, lilies, daffodils, hyacinths, crocus, etc... Again, many of these flowers have a short lived flowering life and provide the best show of colors when planted according to bloom span noted on planting guides; early spring, mid spring, late spring, early summer, mid.. etc.... You will want to layer bloom cycles to where you have a constant show of color. Just be careful not to over-crowd your garden and divide your plants, once well established, to keep them from choking each other out. Many of the above mentioned are full sun to part sun plants, and while they will still grow in the shade, they are less likely to bloom. Hyacinths do well in the shade, as well as Lily of the Valley. Beware though, the Lily of the Valley plant can be invasive given the right conditions and is also known to be deadly to children if ingested; not sure if it is the same for pets, but most likely would be so. For shade gardens, my favorites are ferns and hostas. When I plant my ferns, I loosen the clay soil by digging the hole double the size of the plant and filling in around the roots with cypress mulch or peat humus before adding dirt back in to fill. I've had the best luck with ferns I plant along the foundation of my home in a well shaded area; North side, and east side. I have not had as much luck in planting the ferns around trees; they seem to lose out in a battle against the tree roots. Hostas seem to do much better for me around the trees in lightly filtered sun locations; but primarily shady gardens. As I have 18 trees in my yard with this newer place I acquired a few years ago, I'm getting ready to try my hand with coral bells, columbine and some other shady hummingbird magnets. My full sun location in my yard is limited to about 10 feet wide by about 30 feet long. The area borders my driveway and my mailbox, which makes me think twice about filling the area with bee balms and other plants that will draw bees as well as butterflies and hummers. Lawrence, KS has pretty much the same planting specs as the Missouri side does. Sorry for the long winded post, but I love gardens, and hope you all find Kansas City a very welcoming community....See MorePlanting xeriscape parking strip in the fall
Comments (1)Yes, you can plant a lot of things in the fall, especially in the early fall. That will give things a chance to settle in before the ground freezes. Then, next year, they will really take off. What is the drainage like in your parking strip? Sun exposure? What is your elevation, and how cold does that strip get in the winter? Things like sedum and ice plant are perfectly happy with low water and hot sun. They are groundcovers which may also bloom. There are a ton of flowering plants that would be relatively low maintenance in those conditions. Have you checked out the lists at the Plant Select website? Also, look at the online catalog for High Country Gardens to see a lot of plants that love hot, dry conditions. They have many pre-planned gardens, too, which again can give you some good ideas. A lot of nurseries are having good end-of-season sales now. It's a good time to acquire perennials, grasses, groundcovers, etc. Also, there is the plant swap near Denver in a few weeks, a great time to pick up starts of very sturdy plants that are known to survive in this climate....See MoreStreet Beautification Competition
Comments (7)Our town has a Garden Club and the members volunteered to plant and water the planters in the business district. We also have hanging baskets and the township waters them from a truck. The Garden club tried the competition route once but the results from the business owners was underwhelming. Is this a residential area? If so I think it's a shame that the owners aren't interested in doing this themselves - all the time. In my SIL's neighborhood several neighbors got together and planned a First Saturday in June Day. They went to a local nursery and got discounted prices for easy care bedding plants and bagged mulch then distributed a flyer to everyone on the street with a price list and a photo of a completed bedding area. They were even willing to have the plants and mulch delivered if the residents would pay up front. It took a few years but after a while most of the residents joined in....See More- 6 years agoLaLennoxa 6a/b Hamilton ON thanked woodyoak zone 5 southern Ont., Canada
- 6 years agoLaLennoxa 6a/b Hamilton ON thanked mad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY)
- 6 years agoLaLennoxa 6a/b Hamilton ON thanked Dreamscape Outdoor Living & Garden Inc.
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