I don't know how deep those pantry shelves are, but to maximize your space, and eliminate the corner, how about having a shallower shelf on on side and a deeper on the other?

You might have to move the door slightly, but I think that it would let you spread out and not bury food or canned things in deeper pantry shelves (use those for larger kitchen appliances, buckets of things, drinks / water, dog food bin on the floor under the deeper shelves), and then the shallower shelves can be for cans, bottles, etc to ensure that you won't bury things in the back (ask me how I know...)

Would not combine them. For whatever reason, I don't want food in my laundry.

I'd put the door back on the pantry, and I'd do what jannicone suggested. I have a "corner" in my current pantry and stuff gets "lost" back there- even with lazy susans.

Put the door back on. If you do a swing door, you can hang things (broom, Swiffer, etc) on the wall behind the door and they are hidden even if the door is open.

A galley pantry is a though, but with the current width it might be tight. Sometimes you need deeper than 12" shelves. With the current setup, you could have shallow basket rack along the outside wall. We squeezed one in on the side wall of our reach in pantry and it added an amazing amount of very useful storage.

I'd use a pocket door on the pantry and also one on the laundry room. I live alone and I'd kill for a pantry - place for paper towels, extra canned goods, seldom used but still needed appliances. And remember resale value.

I also have to strongly disagree with using a pocket door for either one of these rooms. Pocket doors are not convenient, especially for any room that you frequent often.

I'm personally partial to swinging/saloon doors. Especially for rooms that see a lot of in and out traffic, while carrying large items, like laundry baskets and Costco paper towels. :-)

I think in a pantry like this, you'd go in and come out without closing the door inbetween, so a saloon door isn't necessary. But I think a door of some kind is necessary if you have a dog that might go after that big bag of kibble!

A pocket door would be great because you can leave it open all the time and close it just when you have company (or are hiding a birthday cake!). But a regular door can serve the same purpose as well as hide tools like the broom behind the door.

Yep. Pocket door on pantry. Yes, for me it would be open most of the time.

But, when it's a mess and you want to close it...you have that option.

i have a pocket door on my laundry which will be open 99% of the time.

It is not too big for two people. Can we see the whole plan?

Is the only entry to the house from the carport the one through the porch and into the foyer? Any consideration for adding an entry door directly into the pantry? If you do jannicone's galley type pantry that exterior wall could be freed up for a door. Would make bringing groceries in much easier.

I'd put a regular swing door on the pantry. You can leave it open when you work in the kitchen and close it when you have visitors who I wouldn't want to see my pantry, or need to limit access to the pantry due to pets or a young kid. I'd also put a small window in there since it is an exterior wall. Nice to not have to turn on/off the light either during daylight hours.

If you have a regular swing door you can use the space behind it to hang a broom and ohter thin items behind it. My grandmother used to hang aprons behind hers.

I'd leave a window out... Food is usually best stored in cold, dark places. :-)

...Unless you do cabinets everywhere instead of shelving. If you put cabs in the pantry, you can have both a window *and* no door.

Pocket doors inconvenient? Says who! I have them all over my house in areas that would be tight for doors but that I sometimes wish to close off from other rooms. They couldn't be easier or more convenient! And mine were put in 32 years ago and still work just fine.

Here is the entire first floor.

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Yes the front door off the carport is the only entry at the front of the house. I have about the same walk now from my carport to the kitchen. I would prefer not to put another door on the front. The other doors to the outside are from the other end of the hall to the backyard and from the dining room to deck.

I do have pocket doors already planned for the house so I am not against them but wonder how many in one room looks 'right' . Granted I too would have them open the majority of the time.

Personally I don't like the look of the swing doors, so that is not an option. I agree for resale a big pantry is a bonus. So it looks like I am on the right track with the size and should keep it as is. Now I just need to decide pocket door or no door? The dog is a non issue. He is a good boy and is a grazer not a chowhound. His food is not a big deal to him but now if I am cooking some yummy meat he isn't averse to sharing that!

I had considered a window for light but I too had read that it was not a good idea for a pantry though lighting is important, so I need to make sure I look at ways to light even the bottom shelves.

Also the shelves are 12 deep though I had planned to have a wider shelf for bigger appliances similar to this.

Pocket door.

Have you considered flipping the pantry so that the shelves/cabinets/counters are on the exterior wall? It could make it easier to use from the kitchen since it's on the same plane (almost) as the kitchen counter. As it is now, you'd be swiveling a lot.

Is there a reason you don't want to bring the pantry out to the same exterior wall as the kitchen? My houzz inspiration photo has an 8*8 pantry. I may go 6 deep, but 8 wide. At about 8 wide, you can have cabinets on both sides, a 4 foot wide aisle, and given a 2 foot door, still have a 2 foot wall space for hanging aprons or brooms. Plus having the exterior wall continue instead of more corners will surely save more $$ than the extra 16 or so square feet cost!

Bonus:Dream Pantry will surely sell your house if you choose to move.

First thing I noticed is your toilet in your master bath is on the same wall as your master bedroom. I would try and find a different place for it as I'm sure you don't want to hear the flush of the toilet from your partner in the middle of the night.

Are you sure you want the laundry so far from the bedrooms?

I would put a pocket door to the pantry and a swinging door to the laundry room

Ilmgirl...fabulous home for empty nesters. Love that you have two bedrooms side by side. Great for visiting overnight grandchild, elderly parent or snoring room.

Nick has done a nice job. What do you have upstairs if I may ask.

i would center the pantry door more to allow you to use three walls of the pantry.

bpathome that is a good idea to flip the shelving to the outside wall. That way its not sharing a wall with the washer and dryer (heat).

ILoveRed I will ask about centering the door. If I go with a pocket door I don't know that will be possible. I had this plan designed locally but Nick offered some suggestions for how it might be changed to make it live better. Upstairs is another bedroom, bath and loft.

BCarey originally the idea was the kitchen would have windows on 2 sides but as it changed through the process that idea got nixed. I hadn't thought about pushing out that wall. I would have to see how it affects the elevations. If it looks ok I could probably take the extra space for the laundry. Somewhere during the redesign the laundry got slightly smaller and the pantry a little big bigger (see below)

cpartist I am good with the laundry where it is. Its not a huge house. About 1600 sq ft on the first floor. The master bath has undergone so many changes. I agree having the toilet against that wall is not great but I am not sure the bathroom could be configured differently. A few revisions ago I had this but the bedroom needed more closet space so the toilet had to move. Then the bedroom wasn't quite big enough. That meant the master bath added a few more feet too but the bonus was I got a linen closet. A few more changes have been made since then too!

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So, that's my suggestion above with the split deck. I'm curious, did you go with that or are you just using as a template for suggestions?

One other problem I see is that now your kitchen is completely closed off to the rest of the house. Are you ok with not interacting with any guests when in the kitchen and it being closed off? This of course is a personal decision. Some folks prefer not to have people in their kitchen and others like myself, want to be part of the action.

I personally prefer the original version to this one regarding the public spaces. I think it flowed better with the exception of the sun porch. If it were me, I'd keep the public rooms as you had them, (with ARG's change) and change the master area to the new configuration since you need the closet space. Or I'd explore if there's another way to configure it so you also don't have the toilet on the bedroom wall.

I hear you about it being a smaller house and not having to walk too far. Maybe you can do what mrspete is going to do and get a small cart, similar to a supermarket cart to wheel laundry back and forth if the time ever comes that you need more support. (I'm not suggesting you do it now but it's an idea to keep in the back of your mind.)

Doug I didn't use your idea. Sorry I had this saved in my if ideabooks so I pulled it out to show where the toilet was located previously.

Cpartist this is one of 2 designs for the kitchen I am considering. The other is this. It is more open. The only time it would be closed off is when I am cooking. I am originally from Europe and the homes I lived in were never open plan. I actually do prefer to have a closed in kitchen and cook alone. But this plan does appeal as it allows a better flow.

I definitely prefer beuhl's plan ^^ to the other one you posted. I like the idea of the pocket doors that can open up to a nice 5'6" doorway. That's a nice size to not have the problem of it being a pinch point like in your other one but still having the room to move about and to be able to close it off if you want more privacy.

What else I don't love about your newer plan is the dining area seems to be further from the kitchen. Why wouldn't the dining room be the closest room so you're not walking around furniture to bring dishes to the table?

They are both beuhls plans. She actually prefers the first one it keeps traffic out of the prep/cook/clean up zones. I dropped her 2nd plan into my floorplan. I can see the merits of both. Opening up the hallway though should allow most traffic to bypass the kitchen. Maybe flip the layout so the fridge is the other end of that wall. Closer to the family room to allow easy easy to drinks etc. without having to go through the cooking zone. It is an easy shot to the dining room table now too. The dining room table will have a bench up against those windows with a built in hutch on the dining/3 season wall. The built in on the 3 season porch will be a beverage center. There will also be a small table on the porch for dining.

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Try to visually walk yourself through both plans. Which do you prefer? Which would work better for your lifestyle?

I do like the idea of flipping the fridge although it's then further from the pantry. However, my pantry in my new build is in a hallway so I'm not the one to talk about it.

Another thought. With the first plan, to get food out to the deck and even the dining table is a farther walk than with the second plan.

Also one more suggestion. Instead of a swinging door, might I suggest sliders instead? You'd be able to open it up more, and you won't lose space because of the swinging door.

Is there a reason you don't want to extend the deck across the back of the 3 season room and add an additional exit out from that room too?

Just lurking. My thoughts on a largish pantry- I'd kill for one!! I have lived on Wyoming/Montana border for 20 years until recently. There was just myself on a small 40ac ranch. Plus large and a small dog in house. My question- how far away will shopping be- not just food but supplies also. I had to drive 120 miles to Billings every month. Food . supplies. Truck supplies. Clothes sometimes. I STOCKED UP!!! WITH just me I still needed three huge enclosed 'closets' in the garage, freezer and another laundry room closet. Depending how many people in your home, how much you entertain determines your pantry- and how often you shop. I would LOVE a 'butler' pantry. A TRUE one with small sink. Outlets to keep the coffee on during dinner etc... Doors both ends... :) Sigh.

Ed thankfully I am spoilt for choice and have numerous grocery stores within a 10 mile radius. I used to dream about owning acreage but I still would have to live close to civilization. I don't plan ahead so find myself going to the grocery stores most days to get supplies for that nights meal.

Cpartist I had thought about making deck longer but not as wide and that is an option I am still considering. I don't know how much I would use the deck so I am reevaluating the size, but a door off the 3 season room is a good idea.

Great news is I got the house under offer yesterday. Listed it fsbo on Friday. The only problem is there is so much to do before I close August 30 and I just started a new job. At least now I have the funds to build the new one

Congrats on the house sale. Best of luck with it going through fine.

Where is the house again?

Coastal NC

I would think in coastal NC you'll be using that deck a lot! I know I would.