contractor issues: when to call it quits?
Katie Hulka
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Comments (1)My opinion has always been that is the responsibility of the painting contractor to educate the customer on what is good paint, not the other way around. I don't know a single painting contractor that shops at Walmart. If you told him to use Duron and he bought Walmart paint, that's a problem that should have been addressed before the job started. I know you probably didn't expect to have to babysit the guy. My guess is that his bid included buying cheap paint from Walmart and the Duron paint costs more. It sounds like the actual problem with your walls that he painted is just a matter of coverage. This doesn't mean that he skimped on the priming step. Coverage comes from doing multiple coats and if it's not covered, that means he skipped a coat (whether it's the primer coat or the finish doesn't really matter). I prefer to prime once and then apply two finish coats. If the finish is flat, then one coat of finish is usually enough. It is certainly an idustry standard that when a pro painter does a job, you should end up with complete color coverage. If it is not covered, then you should be able to point this out to the contractor and he should finish the job for free....assuming he is a reasonable person of course and wants to keep his rep up. As for how you have the conversation, I'll tell you how it should be and how it is for me. There should be an end of the job walk through before you give him payment. There should also be a contract that spells out what is included. If there is no contract, then you need to discuss what is reasonable and what is industry standard. The best way for you to handle this is to act like there is a walk through...act like you expected one because every contractor you have used in the past has had one. A lot of people actually use blue tape to mark the areas of concern. If he is a real painter that walks away from jobs that are not completely covered, then I'm sure he is used to the blue tape routine....See MoreCalling it quits
Comments (5)Counseling can show its effects a LOT sooner than you might think. Especially if you just focus on you two as a couple, not as a whole family. If you two seek some counseling to strengthen your marriage, he may quickly become more supportive and empathetic. For many people, all it takes it having the outcomes of their behaviors explained to them and an "action plan" to behave better laid out for them... He says he's willing to do anything to make it work, so I'd say that's your potential solution right there! And maybe if the SKs see the threat of a breakup as real, they'll smarten up a bit and treat you with more respect. Would they go to family counseling with you and DH asked them to? There's no harm in asking if they're already a bunch of jerks to you both and you're about to split! As for your two major problems... 1) I think he has a point - when you marry someone with kids, you marry a family. But he does need to understand how you feel and try to help you with it, so you also have a point. Please try counseling! It might help sooner that you think. 2) I think his plan of a second family home where everyone is equal might be a potential solution to the dynamics... I'm not a big supporter of this as Plan A, because I think the kids should treat you and DH with respect no matter what home you're all in, but it could be worth a shot now that you're at Plan B (or maybe Plan J or Q??). Get a family home, let the kids choose their own paint colours and decor for their own spaces. I know these kids have issues with even simple rules about human decency, but ask them to help you and DH make the rules for the house that EVERYONE will follow, set the consequences for rule-breaking as a group too. They may be less angry in a space they feel is their own (I know I was a happier late-teen once my dad finished building the walls for my bedroom and I didn't have to camp on the couch in my SM's living room and keep all my belongings in my car anymore). Would you be willing to try the family home + counseling for six months to see if the outlook is brighter?...See MoreFirst-time home owners and issues with contractor
Comments (36)I feel for you. This guy sounds pretty shady, and, unfortunately, you are new to this experience and too trusting. Most of the contractors I've worked with, even those whose work itself was good, have disappointed me in one way or another. I don't know any homeowner who doesn't feel this way. They start out like first dates, all eager to please, but then they gradually reveal their real, usually unpleasant, selves. I can't tell you how many times I've heard variations on the "tiler had a baby" excuse. People have babies. People get sick. Floods, snow, and hurricanes happen. Most people at most jobs would get fired if they kept using such excuses for missing work or not finishing on time. And though I've had quality work done by a contractor who didn't pull permits, I don't recommend it. Permit requirements vary state to state, and maybe even more locally. If he does have a license, complaints to the issuing authority may provide some recourse, but I'm not knowledgeable about this. I wouldn't worry about trying to win him over. If he's not trying to win you over, he's probably taking advantage of you and your niceness. Expecting him to change is like an abused wife who believes her husband when he says he'll change, or even worse, that the beating is her fault. This is an expensive lesson, but many of us have paid a lot more to learn to be more cautious. And just ignore the other contractors here who just want to blame you and brag about themselves....See MoreWhen do you let a contractor go
Comments (9)if it is helpful, I can post up the contract. @midcenturymodernlove What is crazy is we haven't given them a hard time about THEIR mistakes or about how long this has taken. As long as it is done right. But know the owner is somehow determining that all the sloppy work that was done is somehow my fault. @M V Much of it is sloppiness. Or forgetfulness of what was requested. I kept track of everything with pictures and notes, but haven't presented them to the owner of the company yet. For the reason explained above with midcenturymodernlove. We have some solo contractors we work with that could finish the job if need be. that is the point I was at today. For instance in this picture.. it was my fault for not telling them to move the molding before tiling. Why should I have to tell them that. Isn't it common sense.? They consider this a change on my part. @GreenDesigns Just a basic contract. We asked for time frame.. he said he would get it to us. Months in to the project we realized that was a lie. They have been paid 3/4 of the total to date. Recently they tried to get us to make the last payment or part of it,, and we flat out declined until everything was done. There are no mention of changes. None of my changes were changes to anything in the contract. It was stuff like.. " Can you make the shower control higher" While walls are open. There were NO DESIGN DOCUMENTS AT ALL. This is what irked me the most. During the contract phase he told us we would have a designer to help us. Then when it came time to put walls up they said they would only have the designer come in AFTER we choose were to put the walls and how to part the space. They are licensed, don't know if we have copies. Same with insurance. Don't know about bond or the rest @inabunker We should have cut this off early when we saw the warning signs. @Anthony Perez NO manager on site at all. The workers showed up around 7:30am on their own. SOMETIMES, if we were lucky the so called manager would come at 10 for about an hour. It was evident there was no management to me... once we had to fight with the contractor to accept they had to fix the joists and take down the wall they put up. We told them to contact their boss and verify. So instead of the manager overseeing and finding mistakes, I would. Which wasn't a problem. i informed them and let them now.. However, now I regret it.. because all of those fixes are being blamed as changes on my part... or incorrect things I instructed them to do....See MoreKatie Hulka
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