Jasdip, I don't know the answer to your questions, but wanted to take a moment to wish both of you well and extend my wishes for a clean scan on Wednesday.

I can tell you that I had a deep tissue massage in Thailand that felt good the first day, but I could hardly move for days after. The massage also aggravated an old rib injury. It was right before we left and flying home on a 14+ hour flight was agony. Never again.

Hopefully, what he's experiencing is that his muscles got a thorough working over and they are still feeling it. Did the massage therapist warn either of you that this was a possibility?

Does he feel any better if he moves around a bit? i first thought of Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness (DOMS), but his reaction seems severe. I've had pain after a massage, but nothing even close to that.

I hope he finds some relief and an explanation,

I have fibromyalgia, and years ago I had a deep-tissue massage that just about flattened me the next day--and for days afterward. During the massage the therapist was telling me my back was all knotted and she was working the knots out. Never again! Since then I've asked for light pressure only and have done well with that.

Best wishes to you and your husband, Jasdip.

I hate massage therapy. Same result as Elmer - so.much.pain. Plus - there's the whole "somebody's touching me and I can't stand it" part.

Here's another same result as Elmer. The chiropractor who had been doing some acupressure for me (not mechanical adjustsments which I don't do but acupressure can be a great way to get a cramping muscle to relax) had suggested massage and there was a masseuse in his office.

1) I didn't enjoy the experience at all

2) I could barely walk for three days following. Not stiff or sore, but real pain.

Never again will I go for a massage.

I too had a horrible experience with lower back massage. I believe she pushed so hard she pushed my disc out of alignment and pinching a nerve. I couldn't walk. I spent the day in and out of a super hot bath. And taking muscle relaxers. I got to my chiropractor as soon as possible and he was able to help tremendously. Never had another massage.

There are a number of different massages one can get.....I have never heard anything good about deep tissue massage.

My experience was also very unpleasant and painful as others have indicated. Never again. Hope the CT results are in your favor and hubs feels better soon.

I'll echo what the others have said. I've had numerous relaxing massages, but last year I tried a deep tissue massage for a sore shoulder. Holy cow! Never again! I was very uncomfortable during the massage to the point of being in pain. By the next day I felt physically ill and had bruises on my arms. It was at least a week before the pain subsided.

Good wishes for a clear scan on your husband this week.

Add me to the list of never again. I felt physically ill and could barely walk, sit or just get into a comfortable position for almost a week.

I didn't know there were so many bad experiences. I also didn't know that massages were specific classifications for lack of a better term. Deep massage. I guess that's what hubs had, since the therapist talked about knots.

I feel that with all of your candid comments there's no way in hell we're going back. We hope that the CT scan shows something, as he said tonite, he can't go on this way. He's had the heating pad on and off all day, mostly on, today. $100 out of pocket and being worse off. Hurts both ways.

Thanks so much, again and thank you very very much, sincerely for your good wishes.

I wish you both well and hope he gets a clean scan.

I've had many massages, but non were painful, just a little uncomfortable if I had a previous injury. I've never had a "bad" experience.

I'm so sorry he's in such pain & having to go through this.

I have a massage every month and just love it. I asked the therapist to massage lightly and she does that and never hurts me. If I feel any discomfort at all I tell her and she lightens up even more. That being said I love my massages and look forward to them. I am so sorry you are having all this pain. So hope he feels better soon.

Joann

Never, sorry about your husband's experience. I'm wanting to get another mall massage. My back has been killing me and the guys in the mall, from China, do deep tissue, which I never would have thought I'd like. Well, don't like it as it's happening, it's painful at times but afterwards there is no pain. I forgot to mention, they used their bones during the massage, elbows and the bones in their arms.

A proper massage should not hurt you. If it does, you need to tell them, unless you say something or show sincere discomfort, they won't know. I have gone to many different massage therapist & ALWAYS request swedish massage (gentle, relaxing & sooooo nice)

First...I hope for only good news for your husband. I am sorry he has this to deal with. As you mention prostate cancer, have you checked with his Oncologist? I

would start with him/her. Hugs.

(((Jazzy and Hubs))) I'm so sorry that you're going through this and am sending good, strong thoughts your way.

No help from me regarding massage; I can't tolerate it at all. Well, except for my feet....love a good foot massage!

I've had some massages and enjoy them. Last year though I found out my regular masseur had found a new job :( So I tried someone else. I felt like I had been in a car accident the next day. I still had one more massage and got someone else and she was sooooo much better. Like others have mentioned you can say something if you experience discomfort or pain. Also did he drink a good amount of water after the massage? They will tell you to do this to flush things out afterward.

I hope he feels better soon and am sorry this was a bad experience for you both.

If someone has inflammation issues, deep tissue massage will cause great pain as it will irritate what is already inflamed. I finally had to stop physical therapy for a torn (not ruptured) tendon in my shoulder - it was making it far worse due to inflammation.

Deep tissue can be sore, as in bruised and sensitive to the touch. But it should not be bad enough that he cannot walk! So either he has a bulging/burst disc or there is something else going on. I would suggest they do another scan on his spine to make sure there are no signs of the cancer there. It may feel muscular, because that is our body's reaction to pain or weakness and the muscles can only do that for so long. If he has a degraded disc or vertebrae, he needs something done with that right away!

My FIL had pancreatic cancer. Chemo and radiation, tumour disappeared. After a couple of years they convinced him he no longer needed his scans. I tried to push it, five years is a good outcome for pancreatic cancer, so the time for relapse is any time before that.

He was having severe headaches, shoulder pain, and back pain. They assured him it was summer allergies, bursitis, and old age. By the time he admitted to us he was in pain and we insisted he go back to get more checked, he had an advanced brain tumour, lung cancer, and bone cancer in his spine and shoulder.

Please, make them check again. Hugs!

Just an update. We just heard from the doctor's office with the results of his CT scan that he had Monday a.m. (Dances, hubs had a bone scan 3 weeks ago, as well).

He has a compressed disc.

He has trouble walking still, and moves quite slowly. He does say that he's afraid of moving the wrong way and hurting more. This is prior to knowing what he has.

Funnily enough, radiation can fix this. Hubby has no qualms about having radiation again. 1-3 treatments and he'd be good again. His radiologist is off till the 13th, which is our next app't to see him. If the pain gets worse or he can't function, they'll get him in earlier, via another radiologist.

He's taking Ty-3 and the nurse said he's well within the dosage and to feel free to up it if he needs to. We also borrowed a friend's TENS machine, which he enjoys putting on his back. I tried it for the pain that I get on my outer thigh muscles but I didn't like the feel of it. But then I'm a wuss.

I know something between very little and nothing about it but resorting so soon to radiation to treat a compressed disk sounds very unusual and extreme to me. Physical therapy is usually the first effort used in conservative back treatment.

Getting advice from just a radiologist also seems odd, I didn't think they were broadly trained to treat such things. (If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail that needs to be pounded.)

Does you system allow him an alternative consultation and second opinion? I'd do that, go see an orthopedist or other MD specializing in backs.

Best wishes to him, from a fellow compressed disk sufferer who has been lucky in being able to keep it at bay with exercises and careful attention to posture and movement.

He's been consulting with his radiologist because of the spots that show up on his shoulder and base of his spine. They're cancer spots, small, and not growing. We want to keep it in check so that they don't spread widely to his bones.

We were both surprised (not negatively) that it can be treated with radiation. I know that hubby would like that, just a couple of zaps and it's over with. Radiation might solve 2 problems; the disk itself and those new spots on his spine.

I tried looking online after the call to see how it's treated but the only thing that comes up is a herniated disk, and I'm not at all sure they're the same thing.

We can certainly call our family dr and see what he says for treatment. All of the doctors involved in his health care get all the paperwork of all the tests and treatments. We can certainly get a referral if suggested/necessary to an orthopedist.

I'm sorry your dh has been in such terrible pain, Jas., but glad to know they have a ready treatment for him. I'm fascinated to know that radiation can help a compressed disc and look forward to reading about how this works. I hope he finds relief soon!

Jasdip, I hope your husband is feeling better. The pain sounds awful. I have scoliosis, compressed disks, and osteoarthritis. I get two massages a month and love them. My masseuse works at our hospital. It sounds like your husband had an overly enthusiastic masseuse. Sorry he had such a bad experience. Physical therapy might be helpful. I am doing that as well. Best wishes to your husband.

jasdip, I don't know how it works in Canada, but here when one doctor sends a patient report to another, it's "FYI" for the second doc's files. Unless the patient has previously consulted with the receiving doc and requested "please review what you get and give me your opinion", it will not be read and especially not second-guessed.

Do consult with your family doc and follow his/her advice. Best wishes.

Sorry to hear about your DH's problems, jasdip. It's good you're bugging them to keep an eye on him. Kudos to you!

A shame to hear there are so many with bad massage experiences. I've used licensed massage therapists for years. First started going to one when I had frozen shoulder syndrome and it took her almost a year to "unfreeze" my shoulder. She ended up moving back to the East Coast to help her parents out, so I tried a couple of different massage therapists before settling on my current one.

I get a session with her every month, useful because I tend to sit at the computer too long. She's trained in a number of different styles (she's also a licensed acupuncturist but doesn't practice; she prefers doing massage) so we usually alternate different types, depending on how I feel.

I prefer Chinese tui na to deep tissue massage, but YMMV.

I'm very sorry to hear about your dh's health concerns. I seem to be in the minority, but my massage experiences have been absolutely wonderful. Sometimes I am slightly sore after a more vigorous session, but never to the point of immobility. I have a great therapist, but I feel like a bit of a cheat now because while he was away I found another one whom I think I like even more! His hands were like heaven. I guess it's always good to have a few therapists on standby!

I've kept quiet about what's going on. Hubby had 5 more sessions of radiation directed on his L-2 vertebrae. It's fractured because his bones are weakened.......his cancer has spread to his bones.

It seems that prostate cancer often comes back in another form of cancer.......in the organs or the bones. Organs are more difficult to treat, because obviously the cancer can jump around. Hopefully the bones are easier to treat. We've met with the chemo doc a few weeks ago and we have a follow-up app't with him next week now that the radiation is over.

Hubby is to start (not sure when) oral chemotherapy, and injections.........neither of which are covered by our provincial health care. The hospital is going to see if we can get coverage; they're going to apply to see if the government will cover all or some of it (it's in the thousands of dollars/month).

This is a huge sore point with me. I'd love my tax dollars to fund life-saving cancer treatments of all kinds; but the government feels it's more important that if I wanted to change from "Jane to John" that is fully covered, IVF is completely covered, and abortion pills are provided free of charge to anyone who wants them.

ETA: people 65+ are covered by our provincial healthcare. We're under 65

Feeling sad that you and hubby are having to deal with all this Prayers that all will be well in the end. ((((((Jasdip/hubby)))))

P.S. I agree with you on the sore point issue.

Oh Jasdip, I'm so very sorry that you and hubby are dealing with this. My dad had a similar issue, many many years ago, and I'm sure treatments are far more effective now. (He had colon cancer that moved to his spine, after the surgeon declared he 'got it all' after removal of some of his colon.) We here in the US are under the impression that all Canadian treatments are at least partly covered--what you say is a surprise to me. If they are the only life-saving treatments available, why aren't they covered? I'll keep you both in my prayers.

I will keep you both in my prayers Sherry, I am really sorry to hear of this. About his pain, did he try ice packs after the massage? That is what chiropractors always advise, at least the ones I have been to. Hope he is better very soon.

Sue

I am very sorry you have to go through this. Interesting point about tax dollars - like you, there are many things that my tax dollars go to which I don't support at all. But that is another discussion. What's even more whopping is how much is spent in the pursuit of war. Now there's a sore point for me...

I'm really sorry about your hubby. I hope the treatment gets approved, and kicks that cancer to the curb.