Roses in the Early Summer Heat
ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
6 years ago
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Your thoughts on potted roses , summer heat and stress ?
Comments (10)Lilyfinch I'm west of Franklin so I don't think I'm very far from you. I'm somewhat new to this as well but I'm happy to share what I've figured out. Number one is that I avoid having roses in pots at all costs! Last year I bought bands in the spring and nursed them along all summer in pots, potting them up a couple times as they grew. I got the plants in the ground in Sept a little after the heat broke. With bitter, bitter cold hitting very early for us--early November--and returning multiple times over the winter I lost about half the roses that I got planted in the fall. I just don't think they were given enough time to establish themselves before the weather turned. This year when I got bands I potted them up to gallons and after about 6 weeks of growth put them in prepared beds. (Some in a permanent place and some in my vegetable garden for transfer later.) These planted roses are doing SO MUCH better than the bands from last year stuck in pots. More growth, less disease and tens time easier to keep watered and cared for! I've seen a real correlation between roses getting short changed on water from being in a pot (and depending on me to water daily and sometimes twice a day--a chore that I sometimes missed) and those same roses getting black spot. I have a climbing pinkie I don't spray. Just in the last couple of weeks for some reason the black spot pressure has seemed to spike a bit. It is normally clean. At the moment it has a few lower leaves that have spotted and turned yellow, but in general it doesn't seem to have a significant amount of defoliation. This plant was a gift from a friend who had it limping along in a pot for a couple years. When I put it in the ground and threw a shovel of horse manure on it and kept it reasonably well water it exploded in growth and made a 180 turn around in health. I also have a Mrs. Dudley. Last year's band was a casualty of winter and was replaced by a 3 gallon plant this spring. It is growing but slowly. I also pinch most (not all) buds hoping to focus energy on growth not blooming. In general my teas are clean of black spot with only a few old yellow leaves toward the bottom of the plant. The cleanest are Mrs. B R Cant, Madame Antoine Mari, Duchess du Brabant, Mons Tillier and Mrs. Dudley. I wouldn't tried to do pots here again without some sort of automatic watering set up because you miss a few waterings and the roses get diseased and start loosing their leaves in a heart beat....See MoreWe don't need summer this early
Comments (26)I love the heat. Bring it on! And the flowering trees, particularly the cherry trees, have been so beautiful this year. New England, or should I say--far southern New England, has a very tepid climate in my opinion and is not nearly as extreme as most other places in the USA. We don't have the coldest winters (places in the Midwest and Great Lakes have us beat hands down---no comparison--and I know this because I lived in Minneapolis for 7 years), we don't have extreme heat in summer, floods are far worse elsewhere, thunderstorms and tornadoes don't destroy our property with any significant frequency like they do elsewhere, hurricanes occur, but are bigger and more damaging down south. Maybe we can lay claim to some pretty awesome snowstorms, but in far southern New England, the snow generally melts quickly and the ground is bare for huge chunks of the winter. Rainfall is evenly distributed throughout the year and droughts occur but again are more severe and longer lasting in other parts of the country. All in all, we have absolutely nothing to complain about--and if I did complain, it would only be about the month of MARCH. Perhaps folks up in northern New England have a different take--and they should---because winter up there is different. So I guess I always objected to lumping all of us together as "hardy New Englanders"--as if the meteorological experience of somebody in Newport RI is the same as that for somebody in Burlington VT or Caribou Maine. Winter in Newport is more similar to that in Baltimore than Burlington....See MoreAugust 2010 pics of the yard (and comparisons from early summer)
Comments (20)Thanks Chris! I wish I had a greenhouse, but I dont really have a place where it would look good and get the benifits of the sun. I usually just put the plants around the house with the tallest palms going by the tallest ceiling . Last year all the plants barely had a place to go and this year I have a LOT more so Im starting to get a little worried. I think Im going to partially convert a room into a greenhouse since it has nice south facing windows and is rarely used. But one day I would really love to put all these plants in a greenhouse! Until then my house becomes a jungle with all the plants are fighting for their lives until spring finally comes! I think I am going to look up about greenhouses and maybe see where one can go. I can dream :) And thanks for the tip about the Fireball bromeliad. Originally when I took them out in late march, they were in full sun, but when the tree grew leaves for the summer, It got a lot more shade. I think next year Im going to look for a place with more sun and maybe if I get enough pups, I will have a few more plants too! And you got my ending signature just right! Sometimes I dont even notice Im writing it, lol.... Good luck! -Alex...See MoreEarly Summer Roses...Lots of pics!!!
Comments (10)Thank you Arcus. Your roses are beautiful. I like to grow roses for cutting so your roses fit the bill perfectly. I currently have a few of them and order some more for next year. However, I couldn't find some of the roses that you have. Where do you normally order your hard-to-find roses? I normally order bare roots from Regan and pick them up locally. Thanks....See Moreingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
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