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Need replacement windows, but afraid of losing storms. No insulation.

brinyside
7 years ago
last modified: 7 years ago

We need to replace our 30 year old double hung windows in a 1912 house. They are vinyl tilt-in jamb liner sash kits that were installed in the mid-80's. We are leaning toward replacements rather than full-frame because we have a lot of interior trim that could not be replicated off the shelf and would possibly split if our contractor tried to save it. Also, we have beautiful sills that are a solid 1-3/4" thick, showing no sign of rot.

In addition to the reduced glass area, there is another big sticking point with doing replacements vs. full frame. We have very good Harvey aluminum storms. Based on measurements I took of a model Anderson Woodwright 400 series tilt-wash replacement window, it looks like the sill overlay extends out too far and we would have to toss the storms. This makes us very nervous because we do not have insulation in most of the walls. When we put the old sashes in, we stuffed fiberglass insulation into the weight pockets, but obviously couldn't get full coverage due to the size of the opening in the jamb. So, even though our windows are leaky, we feel more secure having storms and wonder if losing the storms will actually increase energy loss, even with new windows.

To summarize, has anyone had experience giving up storms in an older house when installing replacement windows? Was it a net plus to have the windows without the storms? I know it is possible to drill holes in the jamb and spray low-expansion foam. Has anyone done that? What about the loss of glass area? We are very concerned about that.

We would feel more comfortable with a full-frame window when it comes to energy efficiency, since we could add more insulation and not end up with reduced glass area, but it is obviously a much more involved undertaking. Cost is not an absolute deal-breaker, but we'd like to keep it under control.

Thanks for any perspective you can offer.

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