I asked the same recently and the suggestions were mainly Mme. Alfred Carriere or one of the many Hybrid Musks, such as Sally Holmes. My Nfacing wall does get good sun all summer long. Does this area ever see sun? If not, perhaps something else might do better. I can post links to my threads if you like.

The front of the house is north, slightly northwest. I have that maple tree in front too. Contemplating removing it. I haven't been here long and I suppose I haven't paid close enough attention to the amount of sun the front of the house gets. I have already removed the pyramidal yew next the the garage and the hedge yews under the window. I am open to put anything that flowers a lot and hopefully smells good there. I know it's tough in shade. I heard Mermaids will do well, but I am afraid it will take over the house, plus I don't want something thorny in that location.

Yes, please do post links.

I would keep that maple as it shouldn't shade your front since the sun is coming from behind, and it will help cool down your front yard. It looks like a newer build and that tree really helps ground the house to its surroundings rather than looking like it's floating in space. I like the yew next to the garage, but oh well. Just mo. Did you look MAC or SH? SW exposure should be OK. I'd try to note the sun and you can google the angle for your house, but it's easy enough to guesstimate.

I agree, a climbing rose would look charming on the brick and help bring the attention back to that as a focal point. I'm crazy for climbers, so I might also consider something on the garage to help cover some of the large upper expanse. I'll look up the links soon.

How about Penny Lane? Looking for a shade tolerant climber myself a few years back, turned up this older post. htttp://tinyurl.com/hxgotje After checking the web for photos & details, ordered an own root gallon. The first blooms unfurled a few weeks later & played my heartstrings like a harp. Immediately ordered another for a pair. Beautiful form, coloring & perfume. A graceful plant, well clothed in neat semi-glossy foliage on pliable canes that train easily. Moderately thorned, with clean leaves in this no spray humid garden, Penny Lane bloomed abundantly & nearly continuously with snap deadheading last season in its second year. Blooms here are best described as a creamy pearl white with faint tints of palest apricot, giving a luminous glow as if lit from within. Disregard HelpMeFind's description page of "occasional repeat later in the season", as currently the 8 gardeners' ratings for Bloom Frequency total out to an Excellent- & closely reflect other sources. The 3 members who rated it for Shade Tolerance gave it an Excellent grade. Click each of the HMF tabs including References, Awards, Member Ratings, Photos & Buy From to learn more. http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.18159&tab=1

An outstanding rose in my book, believe Penny Lane would suit your site & frame the entrance of your lovely home with soft romantic grace. Sue

Oh my goodness what a fabulous looking property, how I'd like to go to town on that one...

Can't comment on which roses but a couple of points I think I can make, I would choose white or yellow for your north wall, you don't want anything dark and gloomy.

I'd love to grow something over your arched front entrance, right over the apex and down the other side... white or yellow... or perhaps bright pink...

Never be afraid of shade. I grow all sorts of things north facing here, virtually sunless apart from an odd hour or two, including roses and I expect you will get a lot more hot sunshine than I do...

I tried to do the Google Earth thing and I don’t see a
compass. The house is slightly askew on the lot and when standing on my back
deck and looking out towards the yard the sun rises at a slightly south east
angle to the house to the left. If I use a compass app it shows the house
facing north. I still say it’s slightly to northwest. Heat doesn’t seem to be a
problem in front, but I do know it gets blazing hot in the back and can get a
bit hot on the west side, the dark bricks really absorb and retain the heat.

The house was built in 1989. I removed those yews, the wife
of the guy who removed them also like the pyramidal yew, but it got in the way
of the walkway. Plus the yews, a couple of arborvitaes and some junipers were
there since the house was built and I felt the house could use a little
freshening up and has a whole lot more potential.

The arborvitaes and the junipers were also removed. So was
the 6 foot shadowbox fence which was a contentious item from the previous owner
and the HOA. It was replaced with a four foot black vinyl chain link fence, 250
linear feet of it. I have a pool in the yard so now everything is exposed which
will require more landscaping. I will be here two years come June and just
about every aspect of the house needed refreshing.

Vaporvac, I don’t know what MAC and SH is you are referring
to.

I was thinking of clematis as the alternate vine to go along with
the roses. My aunt has one that gets purple flowers as big as your head that
are jaw droppingly beautiful. Thanks for the links to clematis resources Sheila

Madame Alfred Carrière and
Iceberg keep coming up in my searches. As usual, I think I am over analyzing things.
J

MAC = Madame Alfred Carriere

SH = Sally Holmes

:)

Like others, I also like the look of something bright growing over an archway at your front door. I would probabaly choose something classic white to brighten it up. Then you could add your clematis to that. Is the area always in a shadow or does it get some sun as it is setting since it's slightly northwest?

I agree that it looks like there is a lot of sun to the left of the garage. Could be a wonderful place to plant for floriferous blooms.

Are you going to plant something to fill in the chain link fence? More clematis? More climbing roses? If the HOA allows it... that would be lovely all around your home.

Sounds like you have done an amazing job with the remodel so far and it's looking wonderful!

Mac= Mme Alfred Carriere, sH= SAlley Holmes

After the winter solstice, sunrise happens a bit further northeast every day until on the equinox, the sun rises due east. It keeps moving north until the summer solstice. The further north you are, the earlier the sun rises, and the further north it rises, until you get to the Land of the Midnight Sun. So when English books talk about growing things on north facing walls, they are talking about an exposure that gets a fair amount of early morning and late afternoon sun. However, those of us who live further south may only get an hour or two of that. So growing anything that wants sun up against a north facing wall in most of the US isn't going to be easy. I have roses on the north side of the house, but those are about 15 ft out, with yews behind them.

I agree with mad_gallica that the roses placed in the sunniest exposure will likely do the best over time.

Our north walls are generally, totally sunless, and usually referred to that way... the sunless north wall, the fear of many a nervous gardener.... unless one plants towards the corners where you might catch a bit early on or late.. nice and cool on a rare hot day though...

..a fair amount of sun? I've not seen that...

I don't know if you can grow Pyracanthas in your area, but they also do well in such conditions here, I like the ones with bright yellow or orange berries. Needs no sun whatsoever...

I hope you find something that you like...

I think the colder zones need the sunniest locations for roses. In warmer zones, it doesn't matter so much, and some shade can be a blessing.

Mad how on earth do you know all of these little things. You have always been impressive. So England averages I hour daylight longer each day than Illinois. What about the angle or intensity of those hours as compared mine.

I cannot agree more with Mad, although the reason is merely out of a hard lesson learned. When we bought our first property in the winter, I prepared a bed vegetables, after spending hours locating the spot with most sun exposure. Lo and behold, the sunniest spot in the winter became mostly shaded when the growing season comes. At that time, we were in Northern VA.

By the look of the picture, you might be in an area where blackspot would be an issue. I would stay away from Iceberg

Sometime in the distant past, I thought it would be cool to have a working sundial in the garden. I still think so, but a tree or two would have to come down for it to be useful other than a few random hours. That led me to the Naval Observatory astronomical data, which is one of the webs great rabbit holes. It can tell you sun/moon rise/set for anywhere, anywhen. Right now there is a special section to help you plan your viewing of the 2017 Solar eclipse.

I've been to the site thanks to Tom Skilling. I think he one of the best weather people out there. Great with sharing all kinds of any weather, atmospheric, astronomical et cetera information.

Our house in NC was situated so that in the summer, the porch was shaded almost to the edge and it kept the house cool. During the winter, the angle allowed the sun all the at into the house and through the glass doors. It was perfect!

How cool, Mad - thanks for that link! I knew the eclipse would be total here in Nebraska and we were planning to drive to the western part of the state, but it turns out it'll be complete here as well and after school hours no less (starting 4:30 pm). We were going to pull the kids out of school for this but won't have to. Watch for it - August 21, 2017!

And yes, that was a rose detour. On the original topic, I have about 50 roses on the north side of my house plus maybe twice that many in part shade in various locations. It's trial and error to see which roses can do well in those conditions, and you'll want to make sure the rose you pick is at least a zone hardier than your actual zone, since I've found the north and east sides of my house are zone 4 pockets where normal zone 5 roses won't survive. That cuts out Penny Lane, since it won't survive my normal zone 5 winters, and makes Madame Alfred Carriere a bit iffy. Mine survives just fine, but it only blooms on surviving cane and that only happens sometimes (and I have mine in a zone 6 pocket of my yard to boot). Furthermore, I only get one bloom cycle from in in the years that it has bloomed, and I've heard the same from some other northern gardeners. In its 7 years, it has probably only bloomed in two of those years.

Several of the hybrid musks would do well in that location - even though they're only rated to zone 6 officially the following hybrid musks in cream colors survive fine for me in a normal zone 5 spot: Cornelia, Bouquet Parfait, Ghislaine de Feligonde, Guirlande d'Amour, and the intrepid Darlow's Enigma have survived well. All of these have climbing tendencies (may not cover an arch but will get 6' or more with support), though Darlow's Enigma is not really a climber but a big free-standing bush, both broad and tall. Sally Holmes and Clytemnestra both didn't overwinter a few years ago, but I'm trying again. Buff Beauty would be a nice rose for you and survived several years before fading in a non-ideal spot. No idea which ones are fragrant since I can't smell most roses. Here's a shot of several of the hybrid musks all in bloom - they're a loose cluster of blooms in general rather than single blooms, though Buff Beauty is the closest to a cutting rose among these.

Here's Guirlande d'Amour in specific:

There are several yellow hardy climbers that have larger blooms that would survive Ok in this location. Golden Celebration really wants more sun among Austins, but I have Teasing Georgia in a mostly shaded situation and it blooms reasonably well. Not that often, but I can get several good flushes in a good year. A more reliable yellow bloomer that would look nice against your house is Lunar Mist. It's related to Colette and is rock solid hardy for me. I have mine towards the east side of my house in part shade and it blooms all season, more or less like this:

Among those that I grow, I'd probably suggest Lunar Mist, Buff Beauty, Darlow's Enigman, or Guirlande d'Amour as the most frequent bloomers. Roses Unlimited sells all of these I think, though Buff Beauty is available several places.

A lovely spot for a rose and lots of options. Just remember as Mad Gallica says, any rose will bloom less and less often in a partly shaded spot than in full sun, so be sure to temper your expectations of having season-round blooms around your front door.

Cynthia

After a lot of research and
feedback from the forums between the shade and the zone doesn't leave me much
choice of anything flowering in that location. I looked at a lot of plants, but
I think it would just be an experiment in that location. Clematis
armandii with Alberic Barbiere is one. Hardy Carolina Jasmine, Schizophragma,
Scentsation Honeysuckle, and
Hydrangea seemannii to name a few. My consolation is I have a big sunny
backyard. I appreciate everybody’s feedback.

New Dawn, Darlow's Enigma repeat very well on my north facing wall......

Clematis armandii might not be good in zone 6 Vicki. Group 3 clematis would be better for you.