do you have straight on views of both walls. it might elicit more comments than just overhead views. I would move fridge to the right even for 6 inches to get more counter left of fridge. It's a French door and you will stand in the middle of fridge, so the stubby wall behind shouldn't be an issue. You can also recess the fridge some inches if there is any risk with that stub wall when you are at fridge with door open....this might be a good kitchen to go ahead and recess the fridge anyway......you have such a set back of the cabinetry to the right of fridge.....try to minimize this change with recess of the large appliance . Using corner sink obviously helped you get everything in and still have counter runs that were needed.

Unfortunately I have not learned how to do elevations in the program I have so I can't help there. Moving the fridge to the right is not possible as there is a floor vent I need to leave uncovered. It will be a counter depth fridge when we buy it so that will help some but recessing the fridge is not possible at this time.

The set back on each side of the corner sink cabinet is to give us more room at the sink and to let us put in that large double sink that DH wants. The sink front and the flanking cabinets are set back 6 inches so we have room for the large sink my husband wants. The setback pullouts on each side of the sink will make that area easier to access.

large double sink in a corner.....I would not...but giving in to hubbie is what is happening it sounds. It's counter intuitive because for the MOST part a corner sink is a one person setup---why the need for two bowls??...a large single is vastly better and with it being a one person at a time setup even LESS reason for two bowls. I think this is a mistake but not sure it can get the remedy of making him understand.

We have tried but he is adamant he is a hand washer, has been most of his life which means double sink ONLY in his mind. The fact he has also been adamant about getting our first dishwasher in this remodel means it is not necessary but yes I would love a big single however if letting him have his double sink means I get my fridge moved I will do it.

Actually a corner sink will give you less counter space, not more. I know because that's what I have in my rental now and would NEVER do a corner sink again in a small space. Plus with a dishwasher, it means every time you need to load, you have to pivot to load it. Bad mechanics.

Additionally the dishwasher is in your prep zone so if you like to load the dishwasher, (and you will once you have it), it means every time you finish prepping and want to put a dish in, you will have to step out of the way. You want your dishwasher out of the work zone.

Your kitchen is the same size as the kitchen in my first house. Below is how I laid out my first kitchen and it worked beautifully.

I switched the fridge and the stove to give you more prep space. Notice now the dishwasher is out of the prep space which is to the right of the sink. Additionally now as you prep, you'll have a window to look out at. 70% of kitchen time is spent prepping, not cooking or cleaning up, so wouldn't it be nice to be prepping there, look up and be able to look out?

Additionally since you're getting a counter depth fridge, you'll have additional space in front of the fridge.

To the left of the fridge, I'd make a tall pantry with a pullout for extra storage.

Some people dislike corners for prep....I'd only accept corner as main counter area if other straight run available....could you put a small cart opposite the corner to work back and forth.....pivot and have a space behind . Too much colliding of bodies for main spot there........and something uncomfortable about standing in corner for most activity of significance .....I don't care for "corner prep". If desire cp's arranging, skooch range to the right with just 12 in counter on the right to give more counter to left of range. Now it's personal preference and knowledge of what activities will occur in your space , how many people/etc. ,

Did you try range on the corner and sink where you now show the range? That way the DW can go to the left of the sink and be outside your prep zone.

Where's the other window on the west wall? Maybe you can keep that and close the one at the top left if it interferes with the hood.

I'd follow cpartist's recommendation. That corner sink looks like a hip banger. If you really want that sink in the corner note that you are losing valuable countertop on both sides to accomodate it (and most if your prep space below the window). You'd be better off with seldom used appliances in the counter corner and a korner king corner cabinet.

cpartist's design is a classic you can't go wrong with. Well functioning L shaped kitchens have been designed just like that through all the fads for 100 years and will be designed that way in 100 more years (assuming we aren't all eating 3D printed food on 3D printed disposable plates).

Thanks for all the responses. I see I did leave out some information that could change your ideas. The northern window on the west wall is currently above the sink so above counter level. The southern window on the west wall is slightly LOWER then the south window so our choices are live with out anything there are close it off. The door shown on the blank plan leads from the backyard/basement and the opening on the right wall leads into the hall. That is a busy area. Dogs and grand kids travel it at fairly high speeds, laundry is in the basement, etc.

I had a kitchen configured like cpartist's design for twenty years. Aside from being too small for my family, it functioned well. My mom has had a two-bowl corner sink for the past ten years. Her kitchen is twice the size mine was, and that sink is inefficient and uncomfortable. Water gets everywhere because you can't wash anything bigger than a dinner plate in either of the bowls. Only one person at a time can use it because of the corner. If your DH is the main cook and cleaner-upper, then it makes sense to let his preference carry the day. Otherwise, it's tyranny. Flat out. (Just kidding. Kind of.)

Are you saying the window at the upper left in your drawing is above counter height or the one at the bottom of your drawing?

I understand about dogs and grandkids. Do the grandkids live with you or do they just visit?

I still think you'll be fine with the stove where I put it. Also I would highly recommend that if you have grandkids over all the time, you get an induction stove. Much safer, with the stovetop not heating up.

top of the drawing is above counter height as it is where the sink currently is. Grands just visit but the 4 standard poodles live with us they range in size from 35 pounds to 70 pounds and I have been slammed by them more then once which is part of my desire to get that stove out of the pathway. Plus moving it to the outside wall would make it easier to vent.

I suggest you do a quick repost with all the door/window/vent information on it. I'm being forced to go back & forth among several comments and I'm not sure I've got it all.

I have to agree with others about the corner sink, etc. I'm not sure if you realize just how much space a corner sink will take up on each side. If you want a large two-bowl sink, you will probably need to take 48" to 60" on each side to fit it in properly. In addition, your DW is in your only prep space and your counterspace, in general is all chopped up.

A range in the corner will take up less space and since people rarely have more than one person at a range at the same time, it won't be an issue. In addition, that location gets the range out of the path you're concerned about b/c it's in the corner away from the traffic.

If you're willing to close up a window, why not, instead replace it with a counter-height window and just close up the much smaller area that's below the counter?

Counter-height windows are wonderful! They let in light and make a space feel/look bigger and brighter. I don't like to see anyone closing off windows entirely - unless they're adding bigger windows elsewhere in the kitchen.

Here's a link to a thread about counter-height windows. See MamaDadaPaige's and ErikaNH's windows, especially.

counter height window pictures please: http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/2484108/counter-height-window-pictures-please

You could do what they did and bump it out 6 to 9 inches for more space as well.

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Marandall, a GWer, installed a 30" single-bowl farm/apron sink in the corner with 2-3/4" columns on each side. She kindly provided measurements and pictures of the installation. Here's a link to those pictures that I saved in my Photobucket account. They may help you if you decide to stick with the corner sink. Her's, I think, took up 52" on each wall. She installed a 30" single-bowl sink.

http://s182.photobucket.com/user/Buehl/library/00%20Other%20Peoples%20Kitchen%20Pictures/Marandalls%20Corner%20Sink

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Thanks Buehl for the links The problem with the windows is DH refuses to move them up or from one place to another but will block off ONE for me. I will show him that window link though and see what I can do.

I had seen your link to the photos from Marandalls sink before and in fact used her photos and information to set up my corner.

I had not thought of a range in the corner as I assumed it would take up more space. The one we have is 30 inches across and you can't really recess them can you?

I will see what I can do about putting together a repost with all the information in one place.

Yes, you can recess them back into the corner. Let me look for some examples of corner ranges for you.

Corner Ranges and Cooktops (similar to ranges):

Ranges:

• NJMomOf2's Kitchen: http://finishedkitchens.blogspot.com/2008/08/njmomof2s-kitchen.html
• SharB's Kitchen: http://finishedkitchens.blogspot.com/2007/06/sharbs-kitchen.html
• Debdy's Kitchen: http://finishedkitchens.blogspot.com/2005/09/debdys-kitchen.html

Cooktops:

• DRMeow3's Kitchen: http://finishedkitchens.blogspot.com/2006/08/drmeow3s-kitchen.html

Working off of Sena's layout - since you do not want the range where CPArtist put it...

Note: The left wall did not match the stated measurement on the blank slate, so when I did the layout I used the stated measurement (160-1/16"), not the 13'7" (163") in the designer's layout - although, when I measured it based on 1 box = 12", it did come out to 163". If you do have those extra 3", add them to the 12" base cabinet to the left of the sink and to the upper cabinet to the left of the sink for more dish storage.

Zone Map:

I had a corner 30" cooktop in my former and current kitchen. It's worked well for me.

nnbaskets how much room did that take up on each side at the back? The current corner sink plan takes up a total of 42 inches for the sink with 10 inch pull outs on each side for a total of 52 inches. I honestly can't see a 30 inch range taking up less space.