Requesting Assistance with Floor Plan

7 years ago

We are going to be completely renovating a lake cottage which has been added to over the years. Attached is the layout that we are considering (with the exception that the d/w and sink have now been moved to the island).

I have a few questions that I would love to have answered if possible:

1) how many people will be able to fit at the island comfortably

2) what is the maximum sized dining table I'll be able to fit

3) will I be able to fit a narrow hutch against the back wall of the laundry room

4) will I be able to fit two 6.5' sofas flanking the fireplace, along with two arm chairs directly opposite it (in a square formation?)

5) and finally, is anyone able to tell me how wide the double sided fireplace is going to be?

(due to the way the main part of the house was built, we are unable to change any of the house to the right of the floating fireplace, nor remove the wood burning fireplace that is against the back wall).

Thanks in advance!

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cpartist

7 years ago

Are you using a designer or a draftsman? There's a HUGE difference.

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bpath
7 years ago
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Just a quickie, but the laundry room closet will not be usable. Think about how you plan to use it: mops and brooms? Beach towels and gear? Jackets? And then consider incorporating the area in front of the closet door into the closet, and maybe moving where the doors are. Yes, plural doors. I think you could add a door on the Dining room side to access that dark narrow end.

and you could put a hutch at the back of the laundry room, if you don't plan to use the sink. No, there isn't room for one. Is the shower enclosed? Any reason the guest shower can't be accessed from the laundry? Or is the laundry shower for rinsing off sand, washing dogs and boots, drip-drying outdoor gear?
michiemeh
Original Author
7 years ago
Thanks for your comments BP. That closet has been bugging me but I thought that the designer would know better. I have a terrible sense of space, but I assume it is supposed to be a walk in closet. It is for storing out of season outerwear and footwear.

You are correct that it is a dog/utility shower in the laundry room. This was DH's only request, so it had to be accommodated of course.

As for the hutch, I worded that badly. I am hoping to put a narrow low hutch on the other side of the laundry room wall - facing the dining room.
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bpath
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The closet is only 3' wide but 7' deep. My brother has a closet like this in his vintage apartment. The items at the back are hard to retrieve, even with his closet system installed. If you have 12" shelves, you have only 2' to maneuver in. And if it is for hanging things, clothes on hangers come out about 21", leaving only 9" to maneuver.

You might be better off making a reach-in closet with double-doors facing the entryway, then make the remaining closet into either a built-in hutch, or a recessed space for your hutch if you already have one you want to use.
cpartist
7 years ago
Why do you need a pantry that is as large as your kitchen? Wouldn't the space be better utilized for the kitchen?

I hate to say it but as the kitchen is now, it needs help to work well. I would vet it in the kitchen forum.

Your guest bedrooms are too narrow.

To answer your questions:

1. We'd need to know the length of the island. To know how many can fit, figure one person for every 24".

2. 9' long

3. Maybe

4. Which fireplace?

5. Your designer should have these measurements.

You say you can't touch the right side of the house. Why? I ask because those guest rooms are really very narrow.
michiemeh
Original Author
7 years ago
We are using a designer, as we thought that this would be sufficient for a remodel.

As for the kitchen, I think that the reason for the pantry is so that the kitchen can take full advantage of the lake views and maybe because of budget? This is a cottage, so we are trying to keep the budget under control, which the designer knows. She is trying to give us the best possible layout without having to move very many walls.

I'm thinking that maybe this was the wrong place to post. I've been reading other threads and it appears most houses are starting from scratch! We are in the situation where we have to work with what we have - especially when it comes to window placement.

As for the measurements, I'm sure that she will give them to me. I just thought that I was supposed to be able to figure them out from looking at the plans :)
stephja007
7 years ago
Can you post your existing floorplan so we can easier assess what is changing in this proposal?
michiemeh
Original Author
7 years ago
This is all I have at the moment. It was a rough drawing taken after the first visit. The window placement has been corrected in the new version. Our main goal is to open up the main entry so that the views of the lake can be seen upon walking into the house.

We are not able to change the footprint of the house in anyway and we've been told that it will be expensive to change anything on the right hand side.

Thanks again for taking a look.
stephja007
7 years ago
Hi Michiemeh, I just now had a chance to look at this and started to comment suggestions then I noticed a few dimensions didn't make sense between the old and new (I can't read all the dimensions so I could be wrong). It appears the 'designed' plan is around 3' wider (on the left half of the house) than the existing. Either the existing is very incorrect or your designer took a few too many liberties.

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