"at one point the sales manager put the phone down and said, "I'm giving an automotive lesson here on the phone! That irked me." Before you spend too much time thanking me for information, you need to understand that my perspective is identical to the sales manager's. I suspect you tried to back him into a corner and he felt he had to fight his way back out by teaching you more about the technical details of the repair than he was comfortable with, and that was really necessary. Now combine that from his perception of your initial conversation here, which started with distorted details. You probably don't want to, but you need to imagine how many times he has to deal with someone who got onto the the internet and was in fact not given accurate information who then feels they are informed enough to challenge the training and experience of the shop and it's technicians. I gave you as accurate of information as I could without seeing the car and diagnosing the issue myself. I'll bet he has to handle a dozen calls a week where the person only got the opinions from people who don't have first hand experience repairing a number of vehicles that have been presented with a similar issue. BTW, the seized screw thing in the distributor body is not uncommon at all for this vehicle, but having not seen one for a few years it isn't something that came to mind when I wrote my first response. In essence, imagine walking up to a complete stranger, slap him/her in the face and then try and ask them to help you. That's what those calls are like to us, so it only makes sense that they are not as helpful as you might want them to be. Now, don't get defensive, nor attempt to erode that picture. Unless you were on the other side of the counter day in and day out you won't understand what the cumulative value of all of those slaps does to the people who are there to make a vehicle problem go away for you. I have seen many people try and claim they know all of the secrets to auto repair, and there are things that they claim to know, and imply we won't tell you. They would not be able to sell their articles or books if they told you the truth and laid it all out there like I am doing here. "This morning when I called and spoke with the owner he had the same stand offish attitude." There are people who will never come back into my shop because of these kinds of exchanges, and that is by my choice not theirs. As a person, before I am a technician, certain types of stress cause lapses in my ability to perform to my own expectations. I have learned that its just not worth fighting to make everyone else happy, because that makes it impossible for me to be happy, and then I have trouble taking care of anyone. "He told me he had a reputation to uphold and that he could not warranty any of the work unless he did all the work and that no cheaper/reman parts were an option." He is 100% correct. "I don't need my mechanic to be a cheerleader, I need him to be honest with me and give me affordable options." Everybody is different, while this is what you say here that is all you need, I'll disagree with you to some extent. First you need accuracy in the shops ability to analyze the vehicle failure. They did that. They need to be profitable so that they are first of all there on the day you need them in the future, that should go without mentioning, but they also have to continually re-invest in their technicians training, and the tools and equipment to support many different cars and it is no small undertaking. This single expense category, tools and training, has increased some 500 times over what shops used to have to spend just a decade ago. The average person with an opinion about auto service that you will find on the net has no comprehension that this is taking place, nor how drastic of one it actually is. "This is a 16 year old car with 4 cyls. I don't think I need $10 plugs and certainly not $28 plugs." The price of the spark plugs reflect needed gross profit attributable to help cover the shops cost of doing business. "..I have been using Bosch Platinum for $2 each for the life of the car. I would not choose those for my customers, I get better longevity and quality repairs from other plugs. The quality of the repair ultimately affects the customers perception of my ability to service their car. If you ran a shop and used those, your customers eventually would not be happy with you. JMHO. "would have been happy with that but I guess we would have been out a warranty." Until the day came when one of them failed to live up to your expectations. Then would you blame the shop, or the spark plug? Repeat ""I don't need my mechanic to be a cheerleader, I need him to be honest with me and give me affordable options." There has been many things written about how "The customer is always right". Somewhere we lost the real picture that people at times stop being customers no matter how hard you try to make them happy. I said earlier some people will never be welcome back to my shop. Several have tried to come back when they found that they had specific vehicle issues that I was truly the only one in the area that was equipped, and trained to handle them. The high tech robotics in today's cars are on par with the most high tech inventions found in any field less than a decade ago. Yet we still have to deal with the perception that because some auto parts store will sell a cheap spark plug below their cost just to drag you in their front door that we are something less than honorable for not skimping on the quality that our trade demands.

I graduated from High School in 1942, long before most of you were born. I chose to take Academic Studies, even though I knew I would never be able to go to college. In fact, I was the only one of my parent's 9 children (the youngest) to finish High School. They all worked at a variety of jobs, and I worked while I was in school, at JCPenny starting when I was 16. My class graduated into a war situation, so many of the young men entered the armed forces. Memories have faded, but some things have stayed intact, even the names of some of the teachers. My English teacher, senior year, was actually the band director and the only thing I remember from that class is that he spent the whole time reading to us. The one book I remember was My Name is Aram Literature teacher was everybody's favorite. Her last name was Mallott and was known to us as Ma Mallott because of her caring ways. Algebra . . . I don't remember the teachers name, or very much of the Algebra now, but we did have to take Geometry also. Spanish, and I loved every minute of the two years. Our teacher called us by our last names preceded with Senor or Senorita, using a Spanish equivalent for the last name. Second year there were days in class when we could only speak Spanish. Extracurricular activities: I joined the Library Club and tried to master the Dewey Decimal System. Absolutely no smoking, even within a certain number of feet of the school building. We also had after school extracurricular activities; I joined the Riding Club, and had my first riding lesson. Also got to ride the Activity bus. It was a large school, 300 plus graduates in my class. I still have my year book, somewhere. After graduation we had annual reunions until there were too many passed on, or could no longer travel,but well past the 50th. The War had brought us all to a new degree of togetherness. Probably more than you need to know, right? But there are a couple more things I will add. Only one of the students, a boy, had his own car. There were no pregnancies, or drug problems among those students. Sue

Lazypup, in Missouri, where my experience was, I was not responsible for a credit card balance that my now-ex had, because I did not know about it, did not sign for it .....it depends on the state. Here is an excerpt from debtconsolidation.com: The Single Account When a husband and wife has credit card debt that is present on a card that only lists one spouse and the other spouse is not listed as a co-signer, the spouse that is not part of the account will not be obligated to pay the debt the spouse owes. This is the generally accepted rule. Are there any particular exceptions to this? The only possible exception would be found in such states which are known as community property states. Community Property States In community property states, there may be different answers depending upon the particular state that you live in. Some states will look at the possessions of a husband and wife to be shared equally. Such concept of possessions can actually be extended to the debt of a spouse. That means your spouse�s debt may become your debt as well. The key point here is that you need to examine the word "may" a little closer. Why is this so? The rules might be different depending upon where you actually reside. There are several community property states. The community property states are as follows: Alaska, Arizona, California, Idaho, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Washington and Wisconsin. Depending upon where you live, your may incur the debts of your spouse. But, do not assume that there is anything uniform in terms of how community property and debt work. Each state has its own laws passed by its own legislature. This means what may be law in Texas might not apply at all in Nevada and what is law in Nevada may not apply to the other states. This means you cannot make any assumptions about one state based on your insight into what occurs in another state. Actually, you should not make any assumptions in any manner whatsoever as only serious research into community property laws will actually yield an accurate assessment. Seek Out an Attorney Here is some very helpful advice: do not make any assumptions about the law on your own. Never try to guess about any interpretations of the law. Don't try to ask questions on website message boards. None of these steps will yield results that are reliable.

Jean Racine Quotes French - Dramatist December 22, 1639 - April 21, 1699 There are no secrets that time does not reveal. Jean Racine There is nothing so easy but that it becomes difficult when you do it with reluctance. Jean Racine On the throne, one has many worries; and remorse is the one that weighs the least. Jean Racine A tragedy need not have blood and death; it's enough that it all be filled with that majestic sadness that is the pleasure of tragedy. Jean Racine I embrace my rival, but only to strangle him. Jean Racine Nothing is so difficult but that it may be found out by seeking. Jean Racine Is a faith without action a sincere faith? Jean Racine Love is not a fire to be shut up in a soul. Everything betrays us: voice, silence, eyes; half-covered fires burn all the brighter. Jean Racine A noble heart cannot suspect in others the pettiness and malice that it has never felt. Jean Racine It behooves a prudent person to make trial of everything before arms. Jean Racine Without money honor is merely a disease. Jean Racine Hell, covering all with its gloomy vapors, has cast shadows on even the holiest eyes. Jean Racine The principal rule of art is to please and to move. All the other rules were created to achieve this first one. Jean Racine I have everything, yet have nothing; and although I possess nothing, still of nothing am I in want. Jean Racine Do not they bring it to pass by knowing that they know nothing at all? Jean Racine In fine, nothing is said now that has not been said before. Jean Racine If I could believe that this was said sincerely, I could put up with anything. Jean Racine I know the disposition of women: when you will, they won't; when you won't, they set their hearts upon you of their own inclination. Jean Racine I am a man, and nothing that concerns a man do I deem a matter of indifference to me. Jean Racine Many a time a man cannot be such as he would be, if circumstances do not admit of it. Jean Racine According as the man is, so must you humour him. Jean Racine It is a maxim of old that among themselves all things are common to friends. Jean Racine How good is God! How sweet his yoke! Jean Racine Justice in the extreme is often unjust. Jean Racine My death, taking the light from my eyes, gives back to the day the purity which they soiled. Jean Racine Thank the Gods! My misery exceeds all my hopes! Jean Racine Too much virtue can be criminal. Jean Racine I have pushed virtue to outright brutality. Jean Racine The glory of my name increases my shame. Less known by mortals, I could better escape their eyes. Jean Racine Abigail Adams Quotes American - First Lady December 22, 1744 - October 28, 1818 Learning is not attained by chance, it must be sought for with ardor and diligence. Abigail Adams If particular care and attention is not paid to the ladies, we are determined to foment a rebellion, and will not hold ourselves bound by any laws in which we have no voice, or representation. Abigail Adams We have too many high-sounding words, and too few actions that correspond with them. Abigail Adams If we mean to have heroes, statesmen and philosophers, we should have learned women. Abigail Adams Great necessities call out great virtues. Abigail Adams I've always felt that a person's intelligence is directly reflected by the number of conflicting points of view he can entertain simultaneously on the same topic. Abigail Adams If we do not lay out ourselves in the service of mankind whom should we serve? Abigail Adams I am more and more convinced that man is a dangerous creature and that power, whether vested in many or a few, is ever grasping, and like the grave, cries, 'Give, give.' Abigail Adams Do not put such unlimited power into the hands of husbands. Remember all men would be tyrants if they could. Abigail Adams Wisdom and penetration are the fruit of experience, not the lessons of retirement and leisure. Great necessities call out great virtues. Abigail Adams Arbitrary power is like most other things which are very hard, very liable to be broken. Abigail Adams Well, knowledge is a fine thing, and mother Eve thought so; but she smarted so severely for hers, that most of her daughters have been afraid of it since. Abigail Adams I begin to think, that a calm is not desirable in any situation in life. Man was made for action and for bustle too, I believe. Abigail Adams A little of what you call frippery is very necessary towards looking like the rest of the world. Abigail Adams Frank B. Kellogg Quotes American - Politician December 22, 1856 - December 21, 1937 I know that military alliances and armament have been the reliance for peace for centuries, but they do not produce peace; and when war comes, as it inevitably does under such conditions, these armaments and alliances but intensify and broaden the conflict. Frank B. Kellogg It is not to be expected that human nature will change in a day. Frank B. Kellogg I share the opinion of those of broader vision, who see in the signs of the time hope of humanity for peace. Frank B. Kellogg There has not been a war in South America for fifty years, and I have every confidence that the countries of Central and South America are deeply in earnest in the maintenance of peace. Frank B. Kellogg There will always be disputes between nations which, at times, will inflame the public and threaten conflicts, but the main thing is to educate the people of the world to be ever mindful that there are better means of settling such disputes than by war. Frank B. Kellogg I know of no greater work for humanity than in the cause of peace, which can only be achieved by the earnest efforts of nations and peoples. Frank B. Kellogg I do not hesitate to say that the limitation on naval craft between the great naval powers was too high. Frank B. Kellogg There is no short and easy road, no magic cure for those ills which have afflicted mankind from the dawn of history. Frank B. Kellogg I believe that in the end the abolition of war, the maintenance of world peace, the adjustment of international questions by pacific means will come through the force of public opinion, which controls nations and peoples. Frank B. Kellogg If we will maintain our hope and confidence in the genius of our people, they will work out this problem, and their ability and industry will bring us back to normal conditions. Frank B. Kellogg I further value this gift as it gave me an opportunity to accept this distinguished honor in a country so devoted to this cause and whose history marks a wonderful chapter in world development. Frank B. Kellogg The fact that so many of your people are today residents and citizens of the United States, lending their influence to our civic and economic life, which has meant so much to our development. Frank B. Kellogg These measures may not constitute an absolute guarantee of peace, but, in my opinion, they constitute the greatest preventive measures ever adopted by nations. Frank B. Kellogg Each one of these treaties is a step for the maintenance of peace, an additional guarantee against war. It is through such machinery that the disputes between nations will be settled and war prevented. Frank B. Kellogg Public opinion shapes our destinies and guides the progress of human affairs. Frank B. Kellogg Have we so soon forgotten those four years of terrible carnage, the greatest war of all time; forgotten the millions of men who gave their lives, who made the supreme sacrifice and who today, beneath the soil of France and Belgium, sleep the eternal sleep? Frank B. Kellogg To be sure, in some instances these proceedings have been unconstitutional, but we must remember that it is not the first time since a war that there have been changes in governments by such methods. Frank B. Kellogg It is by such means as the prize offered by your Committee that the attention of the world will be focused and that men and women will be inspired to greater efforts in the interest of peace. Frank B. Kellogg Competition in armament, both land and naval, is not only a terrible burden upon the people, but I believe it to be one of the greatest menaces to the peace of the world. Frank B. Kellogg It is idle to say that nations can struggle to outdo each other in building armaments and never use them. History demonstrates the contrary, and we have but to go back to the last war to see the appalling effect of nations competing in great armaments. Frank B. Kellogg Adequate defense has been the catchword of every militarist for centuries. Frank B. Kellogg It is true not all has been accomplished that the earnest advocates would desire, but a start has been made. Frank B. Kellogg France and Italy have not yet signed this treaty or agreed to naval limitation as between those nations, but I have confidence that in time they will do so. Frank B. Kellogg I know of no more important subject to the peace of Europe and the world than the reasonable reduction of armaments, especially in Europe, and of naval armaments throughout the world. Frank B. Kellogg There are but few naval powers, but there are many land powers. Frank B. Kellogg Certain it is that a great responsibility rests upon the statesmen of all nations, not only to fulfill the promises for reduction in armaments, but to maintain the confidence of the people of the world in the hope of an enduring peace. Frank B. Kellogg I have often heard it said that the United States is isolated and is not interested in European affairs. I assure you that this is not the case. Frank B. Kellogg Edwin Arlington Robinson Quotes American - Poet December 22, 1869 - April 6, 1935 I shall have more to say when I am dead. Edwin Arlington Robinson I don't say what God is, but a name That somehow answers us when we are driven To feel and think how little we have to do With what we are. Edwin Arlington Robinson For when a woman is left too much alone, sooner or later she begins to think;- And no man knows what then she may discover. Edwin Arlington Robinson Love must have wings to fly away from love, and to fly back again. Edwin Arlington Robinson He knows much of what men paint themselves would blister in the light of what they are. Edwin Arlington Robinson She knows as well as anyone that pity, having played, soon tires. Edwin Arlington Robinson Youth sees too far to see how near it is To seeing farther. Edwin Arlington Robinson Bainbridge Colby Quotes American - Public Servant December 22, 1869 - April 11, 1950 The test of good citizenship is loyalty to country. Bainbridge Colby An intelligent and conscientious opposition is a part of loyalty to country. Bainbridge Colby I am deeply concerned with the diminution of the teaching strength of the country as a result of the disproportionately low salaries that are paid to teachers throughout the country. Bainbridge Colby The social and industrial structure of America is founded upon an enlightened citizenship. Bainbridge Colby It is a high patriotic duty that we support and sustain the men who have been placed in position of difficulty, burden, responsibility, and even danger as the result of our suffrages. Bainbridge Colby Loyalty will not permit envy, hate, and uncharitableness to creep into our public thinking. Bainbridge Colby Thus, only in a hopeful and confident temper, in a proud and constructive spirit, will we rescue the present and safeguard the future of our beloved country. Bainbridge Colby We must be loyal to the forum of our government. Bainbridge Colby And one cannot discharge the duty of loyalty without the patient and an open minded study of the institution that marked the country and defined its character. Bainbridge Colby America stands for individual liberty, but that means an ordered liberty. Bainbridge Colby A liberty subject to law and subordinate to the common welfare. Bainbridge Colby Americanism demands loyalty to the teacher and respect for his lesson. Bainbridge Colby We must stifle the voice of hatred and faction. Bainbridge Colby That does not mean that we must forego just and fair criticism, or refrain from opposition to policies which are debatable or which do not command our approval. Bainbridge Colby But we must not, if we are loyal, disperse our energies in a partisan warfare that is waged without regard to its consequences to the well being, security, or honor of the country. Bainbridge Colby Like pictures, men should be judged by their merits and not by their defects. Bainbridge Colby Edgard Varese Quotes American - Composer December 22, 1883 - November 6, 1965 Music is organized sound. Edgard Varese Music, which should pulsate with life, needs new means of expression, and science alone can infuse it with youthful vigor. Edgard Varese I don't want to write any more for the old Man-power instruments and am handicapped by the lack of adequate electrical instruments for which I now conceive my music. Edgard Varese Contrary to general belief, an artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. Edgard Varese Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes. Edgard Varese Our musical alphabet is poor and illogical. Edgard Varese I dream of instruments obedient to my thought and which with their contribution of a whole new world of unsuspected sounds, will lend themselves to the exigencies of my inner rhythm. Edgard Varese There is an idea, the basis of an internal structure, expanded and split into different shapes or groups of sound constantly changing in shape, direction, and speed, attracted and repulsed by various forces. Edgard Varese I was not influenced by composers as much as by natural objects and physical phenomena. Edgard Varese I have just begun a work in which an important part is given to a large chorus and with it I want to use several of your instruments - augmenting their range as in those I used for my Equatorial - especially in the high range. Edgard Varese