Would I buy a house without a dishwasher? If I loved everything else about the property and I could easily add a dishwasher then yes.

However, if there were two houses I liked, one with a dishwasher and one without, I would buy the one with the dishwasher for sure.

I could handle having only one sink in the master bath (I've done it before) but I really dislike it.

I have my sink and he has his. We are always getting ready in the morning and at bedtime at the same time so we really need and use both sinks.

I guess I've remodeled too often: none of this stuff would bother me. If you don't have what you want in a house when you buy it, install it. If you have something you don't like in a house when you buy it, remove it. I'd even put extra $$$ into the loan to do hire out whatever needed to be done. If I wasn't willing to do it. Or capable. The latter is less common for me. I do it all except electrical.

Would I, no. The last time I lived somewhere without a dishwasher was the apartment I had the first year after I graduated from college. Even the tiny kitchen we had for several years in Europe decades ago had one.

I think you understand how others might view your house in saying "it's not the perfect house for just anybody". If you would enjoy having a dishwasher or two bathroom sinks to use yourself, put them in. If not figure that a buyer would look at your house as one that needed a lot of work anyway, leave things as is.

At the same time, I agree with others, a dishwasher is definitely a go/no go proposition for many. Even if a kitchen is otherwise a remodel candidate, many people would avoid any house that required even a temporary period of time without a dishwasher. I would.

From what I've read, most remodeling projects only recoup a fraction of the cost at resale. So I think it would be better to let the future owners decide if they want to remodel for a dishwasher and/or double sinks and save your money for remodeling you may want to do in your next home.

When we had this home built 10 years ago the original plan had one sink in the master bath, our daughter suggested 2 sinks for resale value so we went with that. I love having a dishwasher but some homes don't have room to have one put in.

If I were house hunting, a kitchen would need a dishwasher or at least a good space for a dishwasher where one could be added without major headaches. It's not that I can't wash dishes because I certainly have, but such a time saver when preparing food and cleaning up from prep. I know I am in and out of the kitchen more efficiently when things aren't stacked on the counter or in the sink needing attention ;0)

I wouldn't redo a bathroom to only install an additional sink. The vanity in our master is 7 1/2', with one elongated 33" sink in the middle of it. I don't know why such a large sink in a bath when the width would have easily accommodated two more standard sized, but it isn't a problem. The occasions we both want to brush our teeth at exactly the same are far and few between.

What was almost a deal breaker in that bath is the oversized jetted tub that we have not used in living here almost four years and surely never will. It's a space hog when a huge shower would be more to our liking. And someday I'll have that done, I just haven't been inconvenienced enough by it to commit to a remodeling mess. Yet.

Susan, I currently own a dishwasher. But, only because it came with this house. For the same reason I own a garbage disposal.

But: Both will hopefully be gone by the end of the year. This house gives me more work, than I saw coming when I bought.

Thus, I have not removed those two items yet. I did remove both at the previous house, and that one sold "just fine".

Moni

I wouldn't put the money into any remodel if you are happy with the way things are now. Most people will want to come in and put their own touches in their new home. Be prepared for low ball offers because of "needed " updates.

I might buy a house without a dishwasher but only if there was a place to put one after I bought it without losing too much cabinet space. I could not live without a dishwasher!

As for 2 sinks in the bathroom, we don't have that now and I have no desire to have it. We are never in so much of a rush that both of need to be at the sink at the same time. And do I really want to be spitting and gargling next to someone, or hear that from them? No thanks! LOL

If the location and everything about the house was just what I wanted, then no it would not matter. I have several in my close family that know how to do all things concerning plumbing and remodeling and such. Yes, I like a dishwasher as standing and washing dishes is something I do not want to have to be doing at my age and I cook quite a bit. I personally do not like a second sink in the bathroom, When we re did our bathroom I had a kitchen cabinet put in and had a single kitchen sink put in. The reason being to bathe the small dogs. We don't bathe in it so it does not matter, tub or shower for that. I have the sprayer hose too. I forgot to add, my home did not have a dishwasher and we lived here for probably 30 years before I got one put in. Sons in law put things in for me. By that time husband had had his first stroke. I have washed enough dishes by hand to get my fill.

Sue

Dishwasher -- I wouldn't have to have one, but a place to install one without sacrificing important storage, or even to stash a portable one, would be an important consideration. If I am ever an empty nester again I would not miss the DW, but it is very useful now and back when I was a working single parent it really came in handy.

Two sinks -- having been single with a single child for ages, I would have preferred having a half bath to 2 sinks in one bath (I have only one bathroom). Something my parents taught my family of 5 kids who all shared one bathroom, is that you clean the sink and tub after yourself every time you use it. So the only problem with a single sink becomes time management/access/ consideration/planning in a house with 2 adults or multiple kids. BTW there wouldn't be room for a 2nd sink in my bath regardless. That calls for a larger house!

I couldn't live without a dishwasher, but if I loved a house for everything else and it had the space to install one, I'd buy. As for two sinks, I live in an 180-year-old house so we aren't modern. My two baths each have a pedestal sink. There are two of us living in this big old farmhouse but other families before us had four people and they existed fine , I guess.

A dishwasher is important to me, but we're a family of five with still growing children. I sometimes run more than one dish load a day.

I think you need to look at who your house would attract when it came time to sell. You live in more of a couples or retirement area. I think a lot of times couples don't need a dishwasher as much because you have adults who clean up after themselves and don't leave dishes stranded. A dishwasher in nice, but if it doesn't fit into your kitchen very well, then I wouldn't bother with one.

I do have two sinks in the Master but have been perfectly happy without that. But I won't be without a dishwasher, no way.

I constantly dream of taking out the jetted space hog tub in our very large bathroom that has two sinks and a closet toilet. And replace the whole space with a sit down vanity sink in addition to the stand-up sink and a handicap shower large enough for two people. That is a huge item for anyone intending to stay-in-place aging. To answer the question, tho....I think I would only do what makes YOUR life comfortable and buyers will purchase your home according to what THEY are looking for to accommodate their needs and abilities to adjust or re-do.

I am always amazed when I watch HGTV by the number of people who walk into a kitchen and disdainfully say, "Oh this will all have to be redone" when it looks pretty good to me. Or "These white appliances will have to be replaced with stainless steel," when they don't know if they work fine or what. I guess i must have lower standards, because if the appliances work and aren't filthy or rusty or dented, I think I'd want to keep them!

There's that famous real estate saying-

Location, location,dishwasher

We had an unique property, with a very limited purchasing audience due to price and property features, that sold very quickly last year. We did have a dishwasher (very low end Whirlpool), but only 1 sink in the master bath. I would not worry about updating to have either of these features when I listed. Spotlessly clean, de-cluttered, and priced competitively will be far more important.

I can see by glancing over the responses I'm in the minority but I would never buy a house that lacks a second sink in the master and/or a dishwasher.. I don't want to deal with the hassle of removing cabinets and installing the plumbing for either.

Thanks for all well-reasoned responses! Yes, there is a cabinet right next to the sink that would be perfect for a dishwasher. There's an electrical outlet under the sink with the garbage disposal that the dishwasher could use. Unless it requires 220? I don't think it does. It looks like we'll just shelve the dishwasher idea because we never used the one we had in our last house and probably wouldn't use one in this house. Plus I don't want to give up my junk drawer or my tool cabinet! Otherwise, the kitchen is in fine condition. Oak cabinets, quartz countertops, stainless appliances. There is absolutely no room for a portable dishwasher in this house. But we do have three bathrooms, one has a large walk-in shower, the master, and the other two are tub/showers. Each one has a vanity with storage. If we were to put two sinks in the master bathroom, we would lose most of our drawers and we would probably have to buy a whole new vanity.

I guess we'll just hope for buyers who covet living in the woods in a cabin-type house that they can customize for themselves.

Thanks again!

90 acres in the woods! Sounds to me the location will be the selling feature of your place. Limited but will be perfect for someone. I removed a second bathm sink in my last house and did install a DW for myself to use. Neither stopped us from the purchase as we always put location first.

We have a dish washer & garbage disposal that was here when we bought the house 19 years ago. I have never used either one. I am always in the kitchen cooking or baking & can't see the need to use either one. Neither my hubby or myself want the other person in the bathroom when it is occupied, no need for double sinks. Guess I am old fashioned.

I live in the house I grew up in. It had a dishwasher, but when it died, Dad just made the space into another cupboard, which was sorely needed, as it was a one-butt kitchen. Mom is gone now and left us the house. A month ago we finished gutting the kitchen, removing a wall and opened up the space immensely. But we did not put in a dishwasher. My son was appalled. He said, "Mom, you gotta have a dishwasher". I told him I wasn't spending boocoo bucks to enlarge my space and then give up any of that real estate for a dishwasher. And I'm not thinking of going anywhere soon, so why think of who might come in after me? As others have said, no house is perfect and many want to remodel immediately, so let them do it. I designed the kitchen I want.

#1 Has a dishwasher

#2 Has space for dishwasher

#3 Consider the prospect of redo given the kitchen in total

#3a Consider price and maybe ask for allowance

I also think a DW would be a plus when trying to sell the house. I think most people would notice the absence of a DW and might pass on your house because of that. However, if you really don't want/need one, then I would agree with those that have said having a space that could easily be converted to house a DW would be a close second.

I do have a friend who remodeled her home and deliberately designed it without a DW so that she and her teenage daughter would have time together each evening after dinner, while washing/drying the dishes. She said they had some of their best heart-to-heart discussions over the dishes. I've always felt she was a wise woman and made a good choice for a very good reason. Probably most buyers wouldn't think of that, though.

I also have seen HGTV shows where the second sink in the master bath was a requirement for buying. Don't really understand that. In fact, I tried to get DH to just put 1 sink in the master bath (one less sink to clean, plus additional drawers in the master bath), but he disagreed. Can't say I mind having the extra sink, but I wouldn't have minded not having it either.

I would definitely prefer it had a dishwasher - if it had good space for one, I'd consider it - partly depending on the logistics of plumbing for it. We have two sinks and there are days when I'd rather have the counter space.

I have to have a dishwasher or a place for one. Our first house, which was an older home, didn't have one even though they had recently remodeled the kitchen. Within 6 months I bought a portable one with a butcher block top. It was a great extra prep area. I cook from scratch a lot and use a lot of dishes. I have washed tons of dishes by hand in my life, came from a family of 7 with no dishwasher. (Dad use to joke; we already have a dishwasher, why buy one! I HATE washing dishes.) Also I like the sanitation aspect of a dishwasher since I have let the dog lick the plates and bowls.

We remodeled our master bath about 10 years ago. I wish we had put in 2 sinks. We never had a problem before because we had 2 different schedules. Now that DH is retired we get in each other's way with our morning and night routines.

I would prefer a house with a dishwasher or a large enough kitchen where one could be installed without too much trouble. Double bathroom sinks - not required in my opinion. There's more to clean and for privacy reasons, I think it's better to have 1 1/2 or two bathrooms.

Just happened to think, I left the second sink out of the bath in a remodel (gutted, and space extended by moving an exterior wall out farther) in a former house. My choices were long vanity with two sinks + storage, or single sink with same amount of storage and a built in laundry hamper. I went with the hamper and didn't regret it. When I sold that house, it was within a week of listing.

A DW wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, more of a bargaining chip.

2 sinks in the master wouldn't either. Although I wouldn't want a tiny little bathroom.

The way I see it, if you're not buying the house as your "stepping up" investment, you make it how YOU want to live in it. There are things about our home that I'm sure others wouldn't like. But this is our "forever" home. (or so we hope) At least our until we move into assisted or a nursing home. My home, my likes.

My house had a dishwasher that looked like it was from the 70's. I bought my house almost 22 years ago. Of course, the dishwasher broke down rather quickly and we went back to washing dishes by hand for several years. Then I bought a new dishwasher, which also broke down about 3 years later. The latest one I have is about 7 or 8 years old and still runs like a charm (Knock on wood!!!). If I were to sell my house today, I couldn't care if it had a dishwasher or not, but I would want a self clean stove.

We are a family of 4 -and a dishwasher is essential! The master bath has 2 long vanities each with a sink. We rarely get ready or go to bed at the same time, , but it's nice to have your own stuff by your sink. I wouldn't want to downsize that.

Personally I would never like to live without a dishwasher. Ditto for a disposal. However as long as there is 24" of available cabinet space near the sink that could house a dishwasher I would be fine with buying a house without one.

I currently have a house with two sinks in the main bathroom. In the 40 years we have been here never once have they both been used at the same time. To me double sinks in the bath are a "dream" builders/designers sell, not a reality. Just like those over-sized spa tubs for two that become laundry hampers in so many homes.The kids never used the bathroom together even thought the toilet/bathing are is separate from the sinks. We have had a house full of friends DD brought home for weekends and holidays when she was in college. college. NEVER have both sinks been in use at the same time. All it means is an extra sink has to be washed. I wish we had removed one during the first remodel. This time the second sink is going. Never in our married life have my DH and I needed the use of our single vanity sink in the master at the same time either.

I don't use my sink area as a vanity area. I keep soap, a canister of extra TP and a roll of paper towels in a counter top holder for guests on the counter. I don't want the extra chore of removing lotions and potions to wipe my counter top down. Our toothpaste and brushes and DH's shaving stuff go in the medicine cabinet. All other essentials go in drawers or the small "linen" tower in the master.

Our master bedroom has two separate sinks and vanities, separate from one another and on either side of the "bathroom" in between. I like having my own space, my wife does too. Another bathroom shared by two bedrooms has two sinks on a long counter, that worked fine when two kids were using them.

I agree, to a point, that many houses have "design" features that can be superfluous or even non-functional (especially some of the dumb things I've seen people do in kitchens). I'd put overly large tubs (in a bathroom) on that list, but not multiple sinks in a bathroom or bedroom used by two people.

Sure, I'd buy a house without a dishwasher so long as the kitchen had provision for one. In fact, we had a new house built for us and it did not include a dishwasher, The kitchen cabinetry did have a space for one, however, we use the space for other things. Now that both of us are retired and my wife's ankles hurt, I am the dishwasher most of the time. I suppose its her way of telling me that if I do not want to wash dishes, get a dishwasher! (We find that the dishwasher space is a dandy place to park the garbage and waste paper bags.)

You're asking the wrong people. Ask a local realtor what will help sell your home. If your 'competition' has a dishwasher and two sinks -- and any number of other 'pluses' -- you'll have to take that into account when you price.

We built in 2000. We have Fisher Paykel dish drawers and two pedestal sinks in our MBA. I never want a disposal, but have a pull-out lower cabinet left of the sink that takes waste and recycling.

Consider what the realtor says, and if YOU would enjoy any of the things, do it while YOU can enjoy it. (You might at least get a quote on installing a dishwasher to prepare for bargaining with a buyer.)

When we bought our Maui condo, the seller agreed to make many upgrades to it before we closed. By the time it was ready, his wife was unhappy to be selling!

If the house is being sold as a "you can demo it and make it better" house....I buy those...then it's fine. If you want the house to sell for TOP dollar, those houses have a LOT of competition and you need to compete...then yes...you need both a dishwasher AND double sinks. The key is to define who your clients will be when buying or selling something. Then define the price point that client will pay for a product......a house is a product.

For instance....air conditioning is a big deal here, people want it.....but are they willing to pay for it? It's a deal breaker for some...

I need a dishwasher, so if there isn't one there I would need to be able to add one some how. As long as I could put one in, I wouldn't have an issue buying a house without one. In fact, I would prefer not to use somebody else's old dishwasher and would likely replace it if there was one already there unless it was very very new and fancy.

Central air is not negotiable. NOT negotiable! Central vac would be great, I had it and miss it, DH never had it and says he doesn't care but it is hell getting him to vacuum so I get to decide that next time ;).

I love the look of cathedral ceilings, but hate the noise factor if you have bare floors and the heating/cooling bills end up higher than they should be...these things turn me off right away.

Dances.

At our ages, hubs and I don't want to have to do any remodeling at all, so if we want a feature in a house, it has to be there when we buy it. And we have a list of "must have" and "can't have" items, e.g., no fiberglass tubs or shower surrounds, and must have a separate "commode closet" in the master bathroom.

Dual sinks in the master bathroom are a must-have for us, too. It's not that we're using the sinks at the same time (which we often do if we're getting ready to go out to dinner, to a party, etc.), but the freedom it gives you -- you don't have to think about whether or not your partner is going to need the sink when you need the sink; you can keep your own stuff near your sink, etc.

The "master"ful one who wants a second sink in the main bathroom ...

... gets to clean it.

o j

As
long as there was a logical place to put a dishwasher without screwing
up the latout of the kitchen I'd be content. I have no interest in a
second sink in the bathroom.

I could say the same thing. I am going to have a dishwasher one way or another -- I wouldn't mind installing one myself, but I'd expect the price to reflect the not-cheap additional plumbing and the appliance itself.

I see two sinks as a negative in the master bathroom. Wasteful, something extra to break, something extra to clean. I wouldn't say I'd refuse to buy a house with repetative sinks ... but it would be a strike against that house.

oj -- That's one thing I like about separate sinks. I clean *mine* when I think it's dirty. He's on his own -- although I frequently clean his too! (We have different standards.)

I wouldn't do either. If someone is that set that they wouldn't buy a house without a dishwasher, they would likely be very picky on what particular dishwasher is in there so unless you consult the unknown buyer on what to install it could be a waste of money. Same with the second sink. Sounds like the old real estate agent line If you spend $50,000.00 on improvements, I can get you another $10,000.00 on the sale price! And of course that will be less the 7% or whatever they're going to soak you anyway. If it's truly a dealbreaker, you can buy one for the sale.

Re: double sinks in a bathroom. I've never understood the need for this. If you're so convinced that you have to have multiple people using the bathroom at the exact same time, I just wonder how enjoyable it would be to be brushing my teeth at "my" sink while Hubby is sitting on the toilet.

Get my drift? I'll keep a one-sink bathroom and simply wait my turn.

Kessala

Yes if one could be installed or I anticipated re-doing the kitchen in the near future. Can't live without a dishwasher. I do live without a microwave though.

Two sinks plus toilet closet here. Another MBA plus is a big linen closet.

Often toilets aren't in the same room as the sinks. Ours aren't and the two sinks are in two different places. It's very useful to have.

Thanks again for all the opinions. When it's time to sell, I'll certainly take all this into account and the advise of our realtor.

ok I wanted and needed a dw when there were 6 of us...but now I do the dishes every other day for we 2, and still love it...as for the second sink...I insisted on 2 in the downstairs bath when we redid it. but it's turned into MY bathroom, and I use only 1 sink...I also have a walk-in shower (we did for my mother when she was living with us) and LOVE the walk-in shower and one of those medical chairs...nothing like sitting and have one of those pulsing shower heads...now we we redid the upstairs bath I got a slightly deeper tub for soaking, and shower combo...and that's dh's bath...