Another rose rosette possible situation
Ashley Zone6b
7 years ago
Hi I have RRD suspected on two rose bushes I just planted this year
Zephy climber and new dawn
I took the Zephy branch down to ground and bagged it. Nothing else like that so far.
New dawn is next to it about 5 ft away. Sprouting two long canes with lots of red. On this cane the thorns are rubbery.
Oh boy my plans for a rose covered fence are not looking good.
Thank you, I've lurked here for months as a novice rose gardener. Just planted my first 30 or so rose bushes this year. I'm obsessed! Learned so much here. I first heard of RRD browsing this forum so when I saw that growth I said "uh oh". Would have never had a clue without the info on here.
So far having a tough time with the garden between JBs, aphids, dear, black spot, and now RRD possibly. But I'm not giving up, love roses too much already.
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois
7 years agolast modified: 7 years agoRelated Discussions
Rose rosette disease -Wind Chimes
Comments (7)I have replanted in the same place many, many times, but I've always waited a year. The one rose that kept coming back had been in the same place for about a hundred years (based on the remembrance of a neighbor in his 90s who had been caught by the paired thorns at the base of each leaf node when he was pushed into the mature rose as a little boy.) It had roots going out fifteen feet into the yard and it kept sprouting RRD sick growth for 18 months after we removed the original bush. Give yourself at least through the rainy period next winter and early spring growth. And watch like a rose hawk. Ann...See MoreSuggestions on Replacement Climbing Rose after Rose Rosette
Comments (8)You have my sympathies with RRD! Been there. (Actually, more accurately: being there right now...) #1. I recently had to find the answer to question #1 for myself. The answer I received indicated that 99.99% of the time, one year is long enough to wait for replanting in the same spot as far as coming down with RRD again goes, because if the infected rose is going to regenerate from its infected roots, it will almost surely do so within a year. If it does regenerate from its infected roots, of course, any mites in the area would have the capability of passing the infection to the newly planted rose. You don't necessarily have to wait a year, but you are taking a greater risk if you don't wait that long. I'm going to wait a year. #2. I'm not sure about the answer to #2, except that I know the answer is unrelated to Rose Rosette Disease. The potential reason to avoid using the same hole would be a concern for Rose Replant Disease, which sometimes (or maybe even frequently) does occur in England. I don't know whether it happens on this continent or not, or if it does happen whether it happens frequently enough to worry about. If it were actually sometimes a problem here too, two years would be long enough to wait on replanting in the very same hole. But along a fence, you probably could just easily move the new hole over a bit anyway, right? #3. My Cornelia Hybrid Musk, before succumbing to RRD, liked to throw out extremly long canes that were beautifully flexible and had a zillion little stems with buds on them. So I think Cornelia would be nice on a fence, and it's as beautiful a rose as you can imagine. It's also likely to have fewer disease issues than Golden Showers for most people. (However, it appears that you were quite lucky with Golden Showers there, so maybe you might want to think "Don't fix what ain't broke!") Lots of Hybrid Musks might work. Some: Wilhelm, Prosperity, Bubble Bath, Lavender Lassie. Some other possibilities (that I don't have experience with, but have seen recommended by others): Felix Leclerc, Soaring Spirits, Goldfinch, Rosarium Uetersen (Seminole Wind), Abraham Darby. I do have (a new) Climbing Iceberg and that might work well for you, even though it can get blackspot. New Dawn is supposed to be easy to grow, though it does have more thorns than some other choices. Mortimer Sackler ought to work well, as long as you don't count on too much distance (lovely, fragrant, low thorns, healthy). I'll enclose the link to Help Me Find's website so you can search on whatever varieties you might be interested in. Best wishes, Mary Here is a link that might be useful: HelpMeFind rose search...See MoreMichigan Bulb Rose infected with (confirmed in lab)Rose Rosette
Comments (11)Did Blue Girl show other symptoms of RRD? Did the canes that started red turn green? Or did other symptoms arise on that bush? Transmission within a garden seldom has ever happend in that sort a period of time. The vector mite populations don't spike until September in zone 5 conditions (this from the juried scientific literature.) When the rose arrived at your home from Michigan Bulb, was it leafed out, or was it bare of leaves, and had it been dipped in wax? You may not have heard of RRD before this happened. Most people haven't. But you might want to consider that the disease has been to the north of you in Canada, to the south of you in Pennsylvania, in every county in Ohio to the west of you. And so far, I've seen it to the east of you in the BBG in Brooklyn...in the middle of the city. The vector mites are easily carried by winds and fall infections on hybrid teas show most often in new growth the following spring. This I know from my own garden experiences and it fits what others see, as well. There is no way to say where the vector mites came from that infected the rose in your garden that is near your new rose. (And there is no lab test to identify the disease; experienced plant pathologists depend on a collection of symptoms for identification.) There is NO reason to tear up an entire rose bed. As suggested above, remove the sick rose(s). That's what we do when other diseases strike and it works for RRD. Do look upwind of your home for Rosa multiflora. You may find it along stream beds or even growing up into trees. With the disease pressure on roses to the north west and south of your state, RRD is moving into New York, even though it doesn't get talked about. Good luck. Don't panic or make yourself ill about this. I can say this because I've been dealing with RRD in my garden for ten years. I continue to grow roses. I loose a couple of plants each year to RRD. There's RRD in wild roses three miles away. It's become a fact of life, but I can enjoy the ones that live and try to mourn the ones I loose....a lot like life, really. My E-book linked below has twelve chapters about rose rosette as well as a FAQ. It's based on a lot of visiting other gardens with RRD in them as well as a lot of research. The Bibliography at the back is up to date, science wise, if you can stand to read about the intentional spread of RRD to kill multiflora....See MoreKnockout Roses--is this Rose Rosette Disease?
Comments (17)Sorry for the delayed response. It has been a very hectic past few days! Dumb question. Is RRD contagious? Meaning if I try the wait and see approach (by removing only the impacted canes instead of digging up the whole plant) with the roses who don't seem to have it as bad yet.....will I take a risk that somehow the RRD could get transmitted to the roses who don't have it? I would hate to lose any of the seemingly healthy roses by doing this. Moving forward, is there anything I can do to lessen the chances of the roses getting RRD? This summer Japanese beetles have been widespread in this area. Honestly, I can't ever remember them being this bad before now...or ever even seeing them really. I know of several other people who have knockout roses here and everyone is having the same problem with the Japanese beetles feasting on them. So as bad as it may sound, I can take some solace in knowing it is not just my roses that are getting hit. Is there anything I can spray on the roses to prevent Japanese beetles from attacking them?...See More
Ashley Zone6b
7 years agoPatty W. zone 5a Illinois
7 years agoPatty W. zone 5a Illinois
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7 years agolast modified: 7 years agoSorry to butt in ... I've been reading the RRD threads after a scare I had recently. Turned out to be a false alarm, but I've learned so much here, and am grateful.
Ann, I was reading your e-book (great info, thank you), and thought of another for your section on public gardens: The Fort Worth Botanical Gardens. We were there a few months ago, and were stunned to see all of the historic rose gardens gone. Every bush. It was heartbreaking, just acres of dirt.
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(Sorry again, OP, for the O/T post.)
jkellydallas
7 years agoAshley Zone6b
7 years ago
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