well these are not going to be true bonsai. let me clarify this a bit cause i think my initial explanation may have been confuseing. the plants are goi9ng to be in raised flower beds borderd with cement retaining walls, the on differance being that all the soil and every thing is conatien with in the limits of the pond liner so that all water that gravity pulls down through the beds is returned in to the pond system. to clarify this another step. in a natural pond setting or yas river area..... you have a high water table that is exposed to the surface in a low area, the open body of water( this is not always the case as you may have water that is conatined in a rout in a heavy clay soil and may not pass out into the surrounding ground. what im doing is creating an artifical water table with all the plant beds over that table. plants then have the option of extending their roots down int o the water table if their water requirements are more then what the current water situation is. the only plants i plan to dwarf are the mugo pine and the cypress and that will probaly be done through, pruneing. i do intend to prune the plants into desirable shapes but this is on a much larger scale then a normal bonsai would be.the wisteira wichis curently about 5 years old i believe it was 4 years onld when i bought it in the summer, will be trained up a hollowed out log that is about 6 feet tall,and will provide support for the wisteria wich will be trained to banch out over the top of the log like a tree, and alowed to spread out to about a 12 foot radius. the mugo and the cypress are the only things ill have to keep small, the mugo to maybe 3 or 4 feet depending on how it looks in proportion to the water falls it will be placed between, and i would like to keep the cypress to about no more than 7 feet. the cypress willbe lowed to get its toes wet while keepingits anlkes dry. the pther plants the rose of sharon the mugo and the wisteria i have decided to run on a differnt system. since i have to be able to remove plant material that floats downinto my skimer part of the pond, which until now has been leftto just detiorate, i have decided to put in a settleing tank that this material will fall into and be pumped out useing a trash pump. ok heres the trick. ill use a timer to pump water for about 30 miniuts to an hour once a week. wich is waht we would normaly recomend for watering trees during the growing season that are planted out side in the ground, wich is basical what these plants will be. i might have to reduce the watering time because there is a smaller area for the plant to be growing. when the plants are watered the pump will act like a garbage disposal, sucking up and chewing up any material that has settled in the tank( possibly even some fish who have gotten too curious and decided to swim over the falls, the fish have gone over the falls a couple of times) and way this material will be ejected on to the surface around the maple, wisteria, mugo and rose of sharon wich will accumilate into a nice loam. note: this will oly happen when the pond is awake i.e. in december when the water goes below 50 degrees farenhit the pondis put to sleep meaning the pumps are shut off till around march or april when the water gets back up to 50 or basicaly duriing the growing season. also since the plants are over a water table if they need more water then they are getting with the weakly watering they can grow their roots down to the water and absorb it from the water table wich is a natural thing for them to do. the whole concept of the pond is to keep it low maintance with the exceptin of occasional pruning to control size and shape of some of the plants

I know what you mean. I have searched my username in the GardenWeb search before and it always showed very old posts. I googled the words "beautiful pfcmcl" restricted to the site: http://forums2.gardenweb.com. It showed a link with a description that showed the exact subject to my posting "Beautiful Plant - ID Please" but when I clicked on it, it just took me to the Name that Plant Forum First Page, so I gave up. After I got the last post from purpleinopp, I googled "Beautiful Plant - ID Please" with no restrictions and it found the direct link! It worked just fine! The post is from Sun, Mar 10, 13 at 15:14. Thank you so much for your help. No idea why the search for my username from GardenWeb is not showing all my posts. I hope it gets fixed somehow someway.

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Mine never did start working properly on its own. I definitely had to dump the Temp Internet files first. My personal computer settings were fine, but whatever they did on GW, it wasn't going to go away until I deleted those temporary files. It immediately started working properly after that, thank goodness. I did not want to delete the cookies, history, etc, so I'm glad just dumping the temporary files fixed it. Marcia