Tired of grafting
Stuart( Paramaribo, Suriname) Hofwijks
7 years ago
After many unsuccessful grafting attemps i had some idea. Will it have 100% successful rate?????
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Comments (21)I have several budded hybrid teas planted by the previous owner of my home, Mrs. J, out in front of the house which I call "deer territory". Mrs. J was in her 90s when I bought the house and the roses had been neglected for decades. For several years, I neglected them, too, because I thought I didn't want to grow HTs and hoped they would just die. The deer pruned them annually both in spring and fall. A couple of years ago, I caged them, but still didn't give them much attention. They were lucky to be watered because I was planting my roses up on the house pad level in back of my house and working on the deferred maintenance of the house. Nope, they didn't die, but they did out grow the deer cages. So, this year I decided to give them some attention. This is where I disagree with Kim about cultivating the bed. Mrs. J had planted them in a bed that was 8" wide. Actually, the two tiers are the retaining walls to hold up the lawn and to keep the house from sliding down the slope. I widened the top tier from 8 inches to three feet, took out all of the companion plants, dug in a copious amount of compost and made the deer cages much, much larger and watered them regularly. (I used huge redwood planks milled in the forest to hold back the lawn and to make the slope stable.) I did not prune them at all. Not even a rejuvenation pruning. I wanted them to put on new wood. The roses have out grown their much larger deer cages twice in one season ! Yes, I had to keep adding more compost to the bed as the compost I dug into the bed decomposed, but it was easy to do since the bed was much wider. It's easy to say that the plants are successful because I am gardening in a warmer climate, but I don't think that is the real answer for these roses. My roses are subjected to freeze-thaw conditions all winter. My night temps drop below freezing and the day temps are always above freezing. I've decided the best answer is that it depends on the rose. I think if I lived in a colder zone, I would probably mound them up so that they don't die back to the crown. Dave Boyd has written about growing tender roses in zone 4 in Montana on HMF and seems to have had success growing roses that were supposed too be to tender for his zone. I wouldn't prune off any wood until spring. I used to prune the roses when they were dormant, but that's pruning off their food supply. The rose may die back, but it often surprises me how the plant will use wood that I thought was dead. Now, I wait. The one HT Mrs. J planted on the house pad level has had rejuvenation pruning. The rose is 'Tropicana'. It's huge, larger than any HT I have ever seen in an even milder climate. I tend to break many of the old pruning rules because I think I need to prune to get a plant well foliated to handle the high temps of summer. That means I only prune out dead or diseased wood and maybe crossing wood, but I leave as much as I can, even wood that looks like it might not be productive. With this pruning method, along with the spring dis-budding for the curculios, all of my roses are larger than the norm and have lots of foliage which I think allows the plant to put out more bloom. The budded HTs are 40 to 50 years old and are vigorous, viable plants with fantastic bloom production. The roses in the 8 inch bed did not go own root, but Dr. H sent roots out under the lawn. The lesson I learned from my neglected roses is that, if they can come back so strongly with a revitalized soil and a slight change in my cultural practices, I've been underestimating what they can do all along. Every year, I find myself surprised by my roses. Smiles, Lyn...See MoreEasily the best deal on grafted citrus trees EVER!!!
Comments (9)Hi John. We have access to good citrus too BUT, you have to be willing to pay good money for them. For instance, I had never seen cocktail grapefruits locally. I found them at a Wegmans about 40 minutes from my house. We have a closer Wegmans, they just don't carry them. Last year or the year before, they were selling one of my top favorite citrus fruits, Minneola Tangelo. They were 4/$5! Yes, the fruits looked really nice bur cmon! Was the peel dipped in 14k GOLD! The cocktail grapefruits were the same, and the large navel oranges(also a top fav of mine) were $1 each and they were in SEASON!! I also got hooked on Meyer lemons. I could drink Meyer lemonade year round but here in western NY, they also sell for a premium. I was buying bags of them for $5 and there was maybe 5 or 6 small to medium fruits per bag. I forgot to mention they were organic, so this must have also jacked up the price. John I think growing your one citrus is the way to go. I now have 5 lemon trees(3 Meyer lemon, 1 each of Pink variegated and Ponderosa), an Oro Blanco and a Star Ruby, and a Kishu Mandarin that probably won't make it. I am hoping I can replace it this year! Lastly, is the new Tango mandarin I just bought a couple weeks ago. I have extremely high hopes for this tree, considering it is 3 1/2ft tall all ready, I should have fruits by next spring :) Andrew...See MoreCould Grafting be any more heartbreaking?
Comments (3)Dang, I'm so tired of the yellow leaves and the worry... What about grafting a good brandywine onto eggplant, gourd, or potato rootstock? Any true gains to be had for us folks trying to grow a decent slicer in too hot, too humid, too dry, or too wet Memphis conditions? Well, Before you ever think of grafting you need to know exactly what the problem is re the yellowing leaves as in is it a disease and if so, which one. YOu need to know that to choose the best rootstock. And the best thing to do is to graft your Brandywine to a TOMATO rootstock. There are a couple of folks who do it and I suggest that you post this in the main Forum, not here, b'c that's where you're most likely to have a couple of folks contribute. Fact is though, that TN is a hotbed of growing lucious heirloom varieties so I think it's best to try and ID what you're problem is first, and then proceed. And now you've got three threads running in the same Forum. LOL Carolyn...See Moremango cleft graft
Comments (10)I have used several things for grafting and have seen several more. My early lessons in grafting mango came from watching Crafton Clift doing a demonstration at Broward RFVC. He has a unique approach. He buys a new bicycle tire inner tube from Walmart or where ever and then he cuts the tubing into strips of different lengths to use in accordance with the size of the grafting material. The inner tube material stretches nicely but won't break as some rubber type materials will as you attempt too put that last tie off knot. The clear tape that you are referring to is called grafting tape and it comes in different sizes (widths). One of the best grafters I know takes that....double it and then twists it into a rope.....very strong and can be pulled very tight. I have recently purchased some very heavy duty and large elastic bands that seem to be quite good in the processing of the grafts. Now lets see if they take and I'll report further. My thought is that it isn't so much about the material used to secure the graft on...it is mostly about cutting the scion and root stock accurately (my downfall...I tend to do too much whittling), having good healthy stock and scion and then getting a good tie to keep the materials together....See MoreStuart( Paramaribo, Suriname) Hofwijks
7 years agoYes i will cut below there..
I did flat and wedge grafting maybe 10 times but only one wedge took.
Marica 7 high Sierra's Ca 4,000ft
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Todd C
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7 years agoStuart( Paramaribo, Suriname) Hofwijks
7 years agoWith and without super glue. After 2 weeks the scion starting to rot. Maybe i can try without the plastick bag over the scion. The grafted one on the right is 1 month old and have new growth. It's a tripple red.
This one took but it was too soon in the rain and rotted.
rcharles_gw (Canada)
7 years agoStuart( Paramaribo, Suriname) Hofwijks
7 years agoMarica 7 high Sierra's Ca 4,000ft
7 years agoStuart( Paramaribo, Suriname) Hofwijks
7 years agoMarica 7 high Sierra's Ca 4,000ft
7 years agoStuart( Paramaribo, Suriname) Hofwijks
7 years agoStuart( Paramaribo, Suriname) Hofwijks
7 years agoThank you all for the great tips!!!! I think I am the lucky one now.
This is almost a month with new leaves. It's a good V-graft without overlapping.
Stuart( Paramaribo, Suriname) Hofwijks
7 years agoMarica 7 high Sierra's Ca 4,000ft
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Hyn Patty, Western NC Mountains (USA)
7 years agoStuart( Paramaribo, Suriname) Hofwijks
7 years agoMarica 7 high Sierra's Ca 4,000ft
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7 years agoMulti color grafts. The Chilai graft is in bloom now.
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