Thanks for the explanation. The last thing I need is more detergent, but I couldn't resist getting 6 more Ariel from a mexican market the other day. It just cleans so well. Other than the Sears and Tide with bleach alternative, No, Ariel is still my go to and favorite.

Maybe the reason I like it so much is because for the most part, it's a powerful little secret. Other than us laundry junkies and hispanics, no one else seems to pay it any mind.

No one paying it any attention is exactly how P&G wants it LOL. Have you noticed the Ariel USA sold in Walmart and other stores is gone and the Mexican Ariel (new phosphate free formula) has taken its place? Have you tried it? It looks like the real Mexican Ariel but a paler shade of blue and smells almost exactly the same. It works ver y well, I haven't tried it in the new FL but have tried the phosphated version. What I'd like to get my hands on is a bag of FOCA with phosphates LOL that iisn't going to happen since its been a number of years now since FOCA went phosphate free, but a boil wash on the stove with that stuff could whiten even the dingiest old sheets. Nice to dream LOL

I haven't tried anything but the mexican Ariel with downy and really don't have any desire to try the ones without phosphates. I have enough detergents without the sphosphates in them, don't need more. LOL

Just thinking Jody since you love Ariel so much ...just add your own phosphates..lol

Well, it might come to that, but since Dafna has seemingly gone out of business and everywhere else sells the STPP for a lot more than they did, I am better off just buying the Ariel from the mexican grocery stores while they still carry the ones that have the phosphates already in it. Seems a lot cheaper to me.

I'm still cranking about Dafna closing..how dare they leave us hanging LOL.

I used to buy my STPP by the 20 pound bags, but it dawned on me I won't need as much now..I think 10 pounds at the chem store is 25$ that will do 20 pounds of detergent. .making 30 pounds..that is a LOT of detergent to have on hand for a FL....I think instead of feeding my detergent fix which I've not done for awhile, I'll order the 10# STPP and just mix up small amounts with the detergents I already have. I haven't had any issues with clothes not comming clean with my FL and not using phosphates but I like the added benefit the phosphates give me like better rinsed clothes and it also helps keep the machine clean with regular use. Plus I need it in my dishwasher which just won't give me clean dishes without it. I'm waiting until after my detergent flea market sale to buy it though, which is next week end...I have a busy week this week getting ready for this LOL.

Jody have you tried the Sears detergent mixed with STPP? WOW it works great. Really boosts the cleaning power of the Sears and helps strip all the sodium carbonate out leaving everything soft and fresh smelling.

I have mixed the STPP with the Sears. It does do quite well. Other than the Sears, Ariel and a few jugs of Tide, I also have 1 bottle of the Tandil I still need to work through.

I have heard some people claim Tandil is also Tide. I know it compares itself to Tide on the label, but ...who knows.

If there were a list of things I could find out in this life, one of them would surely be which name brand detergents and store brand ones are the same thing. No guessing, but definitive proof.

Also, one of the reasons I am trying to get as much of the Mexican Ariel with Phosphates is because I can be sort of a rebel. I don't like anyone telling me what to do in my own house, which includes not using phosphates.

Jody, that Tandil Premium is pretty good stuff. It sure smells better than Tide. Its been a long time since I bought my bottle but I don't use liquids very often. I'll have to try it again.

As far as the Ariel, lol@rebel...but besides that if you really like it you should seek it out after all don't we all do that with our favorates.