Anyone tried to plant hanging baskets in 5-1-1?
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Comments (10)Thanks for the replies. Im not sure what to make of the figs slow progress, by all accounts they love hot weather, and even if they didn’t the last 2 weeks have been fairly mild in comparison to the first two weeks with temperatures sitting between 25-30oC (77-86F), only getting above 30 once, which should be fairly ideal. Fertilising may be an issue, although they have been getting their half strength solution quite regularly, sometimes 2x a week. If it isn’t going to hurt them I can give them a full strength measure at their next watering and see if that kicks them into action. If I could make a guess, I would say it comes down to water, since the plants wilted whilst the soil feels damp to touch (at least in the top few cms) I would say there is possibly patches of dry mix or, as I left some of the original soil mix around the root ball, this may have dried out, or isn’t staying wet. I have been silly and haven’t once checked with a dowel or anything, but believe the soil is probably quite wet now as last week we had a few days solid rain in a row. If this theory is correct then hopefully it should become evident quite quickly as the plants will start putting out growth again (I hope). This morning, despite being watered last on Saturday, all my pots feel wet, almost soaked, right on the top. After work I will stick a skewer in and see if this is the case through the whole mix. My other thoughts were that I had been over fertilising and the plants could not take up water, but I just don’t know that a high enough level of salts could have built up in such a small amount of time, especially since at each watering I let a fair bit of water flow out the pots. @shazaam I am fertilising only with the regular miracle grow for all plants, with some added vinegar and Epson salts for the blueberries. I am not sure what N source is used, but will check and see if it ammonia or nitrate based. I have been searching for a soluble acid loving formula, but although it is on their website I haven’t been able to locate in stores. Perhaps if it is nitrate based I will see if I can find any ammonia based product somewhere. I added some slow release acid loving Osmocote when mixing, which is likely to have an ammonia base, but I am sure someone stocks a soluble somewhere in my city…...See MoreFrustrated, & Confused on Al's 5-1-1
Comments (8)I'll try to unconfuse you, but please don't take this like I'm scolding you - there's none of that in my tone. I understand your frustration, because finding ingredients initially and especially when you're feeling pressed for time, tends to increase the frustration factor. First, you're asking about 2 different mixes, which I can see you understand. Making the 5:1:1 mix does indeed hinge on finding an appropriate sized bark. If you find it, you generally have a usable product for the gritty mix, with a little screening. New Ulm Mining mines cherrystone in MN, so most rural feed stores should have the grit, which you probably already have. Let me know where you live, and I'll locate the nearest Turface source, OR, you can substitute NAPA Floor Dry (part #8822?) for the Turface. I think that CarQuest also has a product that some said was superior to Turface in texture/size. I guess my suggestion would be to fall back on what you already know for now, but with the list of ingredients you have it would be difficult to make a medium that allows you to take advantage of a highly aerated & durable soil, unless it was around 80% perlite & grit, and that probably won't fly because of insufficient water retention. Don't let your frustration get the best of you. If you remain patient, but keep looking for suitable bark when you have the opportunity. You'll eventually find it. I know that might not help you this year, but it sure will next year. Good luck! AL...See More5-1-1 for small plants
Comments (3)I have dealt with this. The problem is under developed root systems/plants. It could also be using bark fines that aren't fine, but large chunks ;) Some swear by peat starters, most swear at them. If you like I could take a picture of marigolds I started in peat pots with a potting mix versus the same marigolds started in plastic cells with the same mix (50% turface/50% bark fines) on the same day from the same seed packet. The marigolds in the plastic trays are double the size and have full root systems. The marigolds in the peat pots are tiny things with underdeveloped roots, most of which will be torn away as I remove the pot since it doesn't decompose as advertised. A more established plant won't have the same problem. Place a weak seedling with a tiny root system into a coarse mix and it's going to blow over in the wind. The problem isn't the mix, but the seedling....See MoreHas anyone compared effectiveness of gritty, 5-1-1 & other mixes?
Comments (19)Thanks Vladimir, interesting. Millet must be in a very favorable zone to be able to use that mix successfully. I just got a few new trees from Briteleaf. They seem to be quite good trees, I got some last year too and they are doing well. They came in those foot long skinny nursery pots and seemed to be entirely in peat or coir. The roots were all quite white, thick and seemed extremely healthy. How the heck can they get away with that? If I tried using that mix I would have rootballs of mush in no time I'm sure. Because of the greenhouse, the pot, the watering routine? What could it be?...See MoreVance Evans
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