"So there any way to kill johnson grass and not hurt the bermuda?" Yes. But I do not think that is johnson grass as that usually seeds in the heat of summer when it is several feet high and the blades of JG are more wide. Could be some type of fescue or ryegrass. Did all of your bermuda green up? It should all be well greened up by now. Something in the pics look like it has been toasted. See if you can find the BGW I have linked below and spot spray those weeds 10 days apart 2 or 3 times. If you have them or any other narrowleaf weeds in your bermuda, it is OK to spray the bermuda to kill them but will discolor the bermuda for about 10-12 days. Remember to keep your bermuda properly fertilized, watered and mowed. Here is a link that might be useful: BGW

Something like round-up will kill Johnson grass, but it will also kill lawn grass. The first pic is crabgrass, the next two pics, I see a very nasty weed: nutgrass (nutsedge). Cut the seed heads off of the nutgrass and dispose of them. Spot spray the crabgrass and nutgrass with round-up, being very careful not to get any on the plants you want to keep. I lay down several layers of newspaper, or even cardboard, and then put the mulch on top in my flowerbeds to help suppress weeds.

Johnny, I wish we had had someone plow our entire property when we bought it, because then I would have done the same thing. As it is, I just dig it when I can and dispose of the roots in black trash bags. Despite the fact that my husband is our local fire chief and my son is a professional firefighter, we don't burn brush often. In fact, it probably has been 5-7 years since we've burned it. For most brush, I pile it up, hugelkultur-style on badly eroded areas, and keep adding to those brush piles for years, but I don't put Johnson grass roots there. Eventually the hugelkultur brush pile decomposes to the point that the once eroded area is now filled in with a rich compost/humus from the years of piling on the brush, and then the native plants return to that area on their own. If they don't, I collect seeds of native grasses and forbs from the pasture and scatter them over the newly healed area. It makes me happy to see once-eroded areas that featured ugly red clay eventually return to native grassland. Dorothy, I have let it grow on the west side of the new back garden for the same reason. I figured if the hoppers could stay there, maybe they'd bother the new garden less. I am not thoroughly convinced it worked. Once rain started falling in June last year, that stuff really started growing and hit about 8' in height. I hated it as it started to invade the garden, where I'd largely dug out all of it the year before. This year (and I haven't done it yet) I may try smothering it with black plastic held down to the ground with U-shaped staples sold for use with landscape fabric. I might be accidentally creating a snake haven underneath that black plastic, but the back garden has a major vole issue, so if snakes were living underneath that black plastic just outside the garden fence, then maybe they'd spend some time eating voles. That would be a win-win situation for me. However, what I fear will happen is that the Johnson grass will just move into the back garden even more. Scott, I think we ended up right where we were meant to be. I love this land and I love all the friends we've made here. It is a perfect fit for us, but I hate the Johnson grass. Everyone lets it grow and run wild here, so we'll never be rid of it. I just try to keep it out of the places on our property that we try to keep looking civilized. With the Johnson grass, and I cannot remember the exact details, but the prussic acid builds up after a particular set of circumstances occurs in a specific order. I think there's two or three different ways. George, Oh, you know how it is, everyone here lets livestock graze on it but then the experienced ranchers do know (most of the time) when to pull the cattle out of a pasture with a lot of Johnson grass so they can avoid the poisoning. It is when a rancher guesses wrong, or the cows escape their pasture and graze on Johnson grass alongside the road when they shouldn't that the cows die. They also cut and bale it as part of their hay crop, as you mentioned. I know that some of the stresses that can cause the poisoning include drought, freezing weather and excessive nitrogen in the soil. Oh, and excessive moisture. One of the most dangerous times for cattle is immediately after you've cut and baled it (usually the first cutting, which normally is in May here) when there is enough available nitrogen and enough soil moisture that the Johnson grass makes quick, lush growth. I believe that is what happened with the cases our vet saw last year on the day we were in his office. We'd finally had rainfall return here in a big way after months of drought, and everything grew like mad. Dawn

miradus, I think the neighbor just doesn't care about either. She is a single woman who got the house in a divorce and it's just too much for her. This area of Johnson grass is in an old dog pen area that she seldom mows, and yes, she would probably let us mow it, but it would have to be done with a push mower or weed eater. The cargo pods are a different matter. She probably doesn't even know they are a mosquito hatchery. I am going to mention that to her because her daughter and two grands are moving in with her at the end of this month. There are no buried utilities in the easement, just an electric line overhead, much higher than any Johnson grass can grow. Jolanaweb, I love your idea and can definitely do that myself. Did you plant the roses in front of the shingles, so about 12 inches away from the fence?