Can I just add that as someone who's DH is on a medically supervised diet for weight reduction -- I cannot believe that Giada eats any of those pasta dishes she makes. Or eats more than a couple bites -- no way could she maintain such a low body weight at her age.

As read on Yahoo News the other day.

What Giada De Laurentiis Actually Eats In a Day:

https://www.yahoo.com/style/giada-laurentiis-actually-eats-day-153104672.html

I rarely watch Ina or Giada any more simply because I've seen the shows a thousand times already. I do worry about Ina dropping dead of a heart attack or having diabetes. I always wondered why people criticized Paula Deen about her butter use, when Ina Garten used just as much or more butter. I can't stand Paula, though.

I enjoy Chopped because it's the only competition show that's focused more on the cooking than on the personalities. Yes, there's some personality shown, but the contestants are almost always civil and likable, even enjoyable. My only complaint about that show is that they've decided they have to have a theme for each show, and I'm tired of that.

I stopped watching Next Food Network Star a long time ago. It was just too annoying. I do like Top Chef, even if it's just the opposite of Chopped, being more about personality than food.

Jacques and Julia are and always will be the ultimate. No one will surpass them in teaching how to cook.

Sally

I'm with you on the Jazzy Vegetarian, yawn. Giada is unwatchable, I'm not a fan of The Pioneer Woman, and if I never saw Guy Fieri again it would make me very happy.

I like New Orleans Kevin, the simplicity of the production is nice. I am reminded of Emeril's early appearances with Julia Child, he mumbled, and hardly looked up at the cameras. Now, he's EMERIL!

I also enjoy New Scandinavian Cooking, Valerie Bertinelli, and A Taste of History. Big fan of Top Chef and the Great British Bake Off.

Nadia G, Bitchin Kitchen. I am flabbergasted that she has an audience. I just watched a commercial about the show and couldn't get to the remote fast enough. I love Chopped Junior. Those young'uns are so talented, they help each other out (even in stiff competition) and conduct themselves with a lot more decorum than their adult counterparts on Chopped. I admit to getting a little tear in my eye if one of them gets teary eyed when they are chopped. LOL

I love Ina's gentleness. She does use a lot of salt, but I find everyone uses copious amounts. As far as not liking anyone's recipes because they use too much salt or butter, that doesn't bother me; I don't follow their amounts verbatim. I salt very little, and use what I want, not what someones says in their recipe. If a recipe calls for 1 tsp salt and 1/2 tsp pepper, I never ever put a tsp of salt in it. Any recipe that I've tried of Ina's has always been a winner. I can't say the same with others.

I got a real good laugh from the comments about Giada. The ones about the neckline. I have never noticed anything below her chin. I work in dentistry and focus on teeth. No one in life ever smiles that much. So fake, never pay attention to what she is cooking.

marcopolo, I don't believe you! Everyone notices her ample and proud of it, bust.

LOL Amylou.......waiting for her to start whisking or chopping something

I still watch Ina. Yes, she uses a lot of salt and butter, but doesn't mean you have to. I tweak her recipes (just like any other) and most are winners.

Have never been impressed with Giada's food, but she does have lovely teeth and cleavage ... not to mention a tiny waist. ;)

I think I enjoy kids cooking the most.

Grainlady, thanks for the article on what Giada eats. It sounds reasonable. Careful but with room for good things. Since we're picking apart looks, I will say that Giada probably is very disciplined about exercise. She's not skinny, per se, but very toned. She probably also has a high metabolism. From my teens, I remember some models. One had an ethnic propensity toward "curves" and worked a lot in Europe, but not so much here. Another couple were good friends, all angles and elbows and not much flesh. They worked a lot here, but people in other parts of the world thought they were ugly. There were also a lot of haters who thought they starved themselves, but they were just born lean and lanky and ate like cowpokes--lots of meat and bread and don't spare the bacon grease.

I don't care what any of these people look like so long as they can cook, but the voices do get to me. I like Giada well enough as a personality, but I can't get through a whole episode of her show because her voice while she's explaining her cooking is so weird. The smile doesn't bother me, though I've noticed it--I also learned to smile while on stage--NO! Smile like you MEAN it!--and it becomes part of you, rather than taking your cues from your social milieu. I can't even stand a minute of Pioneer Woman's show because of her voice. That's the only thing that trumps the cooking for me. :)

Jasdip, I agree. If I want to try a recipe and don't care for some of the excesses, I'll just make it my way. :)

Amylou, I won't apologize for "improving your vocabulary" but will for making you have to Google. I don't mean to. Just trying to communicate, but when I'm tired, I just reach for the words that mean what I'm trying to say rather than wondering if they're too far out. It's an ongoing problem. Sigh. ;(

I am so glad they moved the RR show to 1 a.m. here in Chicago. She just gets on my nerves. And I cannot stand any of the competition shows. I know 2 people that went on them and both let friends know that they are rigged.

The Chew is ok but I hate when they have guests do the cooking and you can tell they don't know how and could care less.

I do love Ina and her recipes. I too make my own changes as needed for salts and fats and have never had a bad recipe. Now ATK is not always the best.

In what way are they rigged?

Geeze folks, tell us what you really think!! If you are so negative about the cooking shows, simply don't watch them!! How hard is that??

I don't like them all but I do have my favorites - the Barefoot Contessa, The Pioneer Woman, Bobby Flay, any Julia Child rerun. Even Farmhouse Rules and Martha Stewart. Yes, they may use a lot of butter or seasoning but you can always modify the recipes to fit your needs and besides, no one eats like that 3 meals a day, seven days a week!! Plus, it is all about portion control which is a concept many Americans fail to grasp :-)) Especially with baking, you will not get the same results if you sub out butter or cream or what have you for less caloric ingredients.

The reason I like these shows in particular is because these people really can cook. They have learned from professionals (well, maybe not Ree or Nancy) and have mastered the proper techniques. I have used both Ina's and Ree's recipes a number of times and to great acclaim by my guests!!

I also admit to a secret fascination with Diners, Drive-ins and Dives and Restaurant Impossible - there is something about commercial cooking and cooking facilities that appeals to me. Maybe I was a chef in a former life :-) All I know is I love to cook and am considered pretty handy in the kitchen.

My favorite all time cooking show is the Great British Baking Show.Perhaps its my British heritage, but I am drawn to the impressively skilled assortment of amateur bakers with some very complicated challenges to create. And very entertaining hosts and judges as well.

Plllog, I LOVE your big fancy words! No sad face!!!!!

I've learned more from DDD than most shows but I don't watch anything except DDD and Chopped, which I love. But not the celebrity ones. I don't have the patience for most cooking shows, way too slow.

From DDD, my meals are much more creative. I've been making my own corn tortillas for the past 6 months and adding roasted, chopped corn to the dough. They are the best I've ever had, then I started making corn tortillas sauteed in butter, cinnamon and sugar and filled with ricotta and fresh blueberries. That's been my breakfast frequently for the past couple months.

I don't concern myself with authenticity anymore.

I don't mind that the foods they make often are loaded with fat, salt and what not -- they are usually special items, not every day foods. And I think there are shows that are about lean or everyday cooking --- they tend to bore me to tears. I know how to make that stuff, I'd rather try something different or unusual or complex.

I like Chopped and the shows that involve a bit of travelogue --- even when Giada did an Italian run from a rented villa on the Amalfi. I loved the scenery and the interactions with the local artisans. Along the same vein, I like seeing Bourdain and Huang interact with the chefs and the countries they visit.

On the competition shows, it does appear they are coaching contestants to be "over the top" in their behavior and statements.

I have not found a modern cooking that I must record because I want to see the food or technique on display --- I think they've fallen by the wayside. I remain open to suggestions.

I dont' have cable, so stuck with PBS, the chew, & Rachel. Don't care for Rachel, kinda like The chew, but not enough to watch it. I do like Martha, America's Test Kitchen & Sarah Moultan. I've made several recipes from ATK, & they have all been good, although a couple were too fussy to be worth the extra effort. No cable, so no celebrity shows. But I gather that Trisha Yearwood does one, & I rather think I would like that one.

Giada did an Italian run from a rented villa on the Amalfi

I enjoyed that last season. Especially love the episodes when her Aunt Raffy joins in the kitchen.

That's what the clicker is for. Like WheelofFortune following Jeopardy it is a race to switch before the opening "Whee..."

I was surprised at how good Julia was even back in the 60's. PBS aired a few old shows this past winter. Difficult to find a talented chef, teacher, and a natural entertainer comfortable in front of a camera. Cooking on an electric coil stove without many gadgets. I always learn something.new.

Surprised how good DDinersandD has become. Much better than earlier shows when he visited 'Dives'. Great inventive restaurants out there. Most are really good passionate restaurants chefs and interesting to watch their methods.

Chopped is another that initially i though was silly but is entertaining.

I have a tiny tv in my pantry wall for early morning weather and traffic. And while i'm cooking. The only ones i pause to watch are A Chef's Life and Kevin Dundon. (The Irish guy)

. And Mind of a Chef....I think all of those are on YTube.

Not a fan of the other competition shows. Seem odd and dumbed down and searching for viewers that like that sort of thing. IronChef may have started that trend. Cannot imagine rigging such a thing. Maybe a sore loser would start that rumor.

Youtube has some great stuff. No names or favorites...just often get linked somewhere when looking up a new ingredient.

Lidia is great for kids. Way to basic for gaining anything new so i pass.

I do see room for a more modern and up-dated approach to home cooking in programing. With so many dealing with allergies and sensitivities and vegans. No need to go 'hippy', just real. (and not jazzy) Yet like I mentioned, hard to replace the talents of Julia. Or the entertainment of the TwoFatLadies. Hilarious. One article said their shrill voices make Julia Child sound like Barry White. Haha.

I love the local, small-time cooking shows on local cable access. Some of them are so darling!

Don't like:

Any baking competition, particularly those with that British beotch judge. Make that just about every cooking competition show, except Chopped, which I can tolerate if nothing else is on.

Sandra Lee- I can't say too much bad about her, with her health condition, but I loathe her cooking. That said, she's is absolutely brilliant with her self-made career and in that, she's an inspiration.

Rachel Ray- omg, everything starts with ground meat and it either meatloaf, burgers or meatballs. 30 minutes, my ass. When you have a crew, sure, but on your own, not so much. Plus, she goes through pans like food through a norovirus victim.

Bobby Dean and his "my mom makes food with so much butter, it could kill you" show. Don't find him likable.

The Neely's- just wrong. So wrong.

Aaron Sanchez-watching is tatted-up fingers fondle food gives me the heebie jeebies.

I forgot about the Pioneer Woman. Talk about a frozen smile. Her voice doesn't bother me - too much - but please, stop botoxing that mouth into one shape. I swear it doesn't move when she talks. None of her recipes interest me, either, so I don't watch her. I get the impression her show is more about look at how rich I've become. I guess that could be said about Ina Garten, too, but for some reason she doesn't rub me the wrong way like Ree Drummond does. Rachel Ray's voice does bother me. Can't watch her.

It's funny. I was just watching Chopped yesterday, and commented to Jerry how Aaron Sanchez's fingers look dirty from the tats. Not a good thing for a chef.

Sally

sally2_gw- You're right-so many of these cooking shows are really lifestyle shows which people get to ogle and envy, and maybe live vicariously through for a little bit.

Giada- California chic lifestyle, peppered with lux trips to Italy. Plus, eye candy.

Ina- New England, monied, lovely woman (couple) with lots of fun friends and parties. Who wouldn't want to be her?!

Ree- Living the dream on an immense ranch, where wild mustangs roam and beautiful kids. Dreamy.

LOL! That is what the clicker is for and why I haven't seen enough of most of the truly bad shows to know what they are by name. Must Click NOW! is reserved for the annoying voices, but bad just goes bye bye when I get a chance.

The only show I remember liking for instructional, rather than occasional inspiration, reasons was Jacques Pépin's. I occasionally make a Food Network recipe that I've found on their site, but never because I saw it on a show, just because I was looking around for a recipe, and it could as easily have been from Epicurious or any of the aggregators. OTOH, I've learned cool tricks from Anne Burrell and interesting concepts from the competitions (I only watch the ones that give real cooks a reasonable amount of time, other than Next Food Network Star, which is like the American Idol of cooking, where they're trying to establish an audience ahead of time for someone who hasn't been "discovered" yet, but rushing each snippet, every time.).

A while ago I was doing some noodling around about Pioneer Woman and apparently her husband is very wealthy on his own right. His family owns a huuuuuge ranch in OK.

Yes, PW landed a whale ;-)

It wasn't until mimipadv referred to

"The Neely's - just wrong. So wrong"

that I had heard of them, quickly looked them up. Eek ... no relationship to my user name LOL.

I generally find something to like about most cooking shows as similar to all of us here, I am interested in food of all types. Enjoy Jamie Oliver and Food Safari is my favourite. We are getting old shows of Rachel Rays' and DD&D. Rachel seems very tense throughout.

Yes, the "Pioneer Woman" is the daughter of an orthopedic surgeon. She was planning to attend law school but got married instead. Her husband is a 4th generation cattleman from a "prominent ranching family", i.e. they have a ton of property that he didn't have to buy, it was a family business. It's a big ranch, big house with all the amenities, albeit somewhat secluded, definitely not a place where she ever had to do without. She's not a "pioneer" anything, she's a city girl who married a big rancher and moved to the country.

It was actually her blog that first brought her into the limelight and she is an astute business woman who has managed to market herself effectively. Her whole "look at poor helpless me, stranded in the country and getting dirty" kind of rubbed me wrong, but I can't argue with her success. I just don't watch her.

Annie

Her whole "look at poor helpless me, stranded in the country and getting dirty" kind of rubbed me wrong

That's not how she came across to me. I was reading her blog long before she became a TV personality. Yeah, she grew up in the city. Yeah, she married money. So what? That doesn't detract from who she is. She home-schooled 4 kids, helps manage a ranch, and has become a successful business woman. Kudos to her.

Mimipadv, I have to admit it makes me quite sad to hear you refer to Mary Berry (of The Great British Bake Off) as "that British beotch judge". I love Mary Berry. At 81, with over 60 years' cooking experience, she knows how baked goods _should_ be, but points out shortcomings to the contestants in a kind way and suggests how they might do better next time. I don't think she's a "beotch" at all.

It's a great observation that many of these popular blogs and programs are aspirational --- like much of "reality" tv. I hadn't really followed the Pioneer Woman --- I did not realize that the subtitle of her cookbook is a much more accurate description of her life "The Accidental Country Girl".

I find her odious and so off putting on shows that I can't watch anything she's on. I'm sure a lot of it is editing, like Alex Guarnaschelli on Chopped.

I'll bet she's talented and lovely, but she's got her tv schtick which I find unpleasant.

Believe it or not, it's not personal. These are tv personalities.

Gooster- most food tv personalities are highly packaged and branded.

Like Rachael Ray is not really all giggly and perky like she acts on 30 minute meals. I remember being taken aback by the much more true-to-form RR on her daytime tv show.

Mimi,

I dont like that alex chick either. Speaking of the chopped judges,do they ever make you roll your eyes at the uptight snobbery some of them exude? I get it, they're JUDGES. But a few of them take it to far. I'm not a fan of Chris Santos, who picks apart every dish,literally (I mean who eats a taco with a fork?) And then shoots the chef down. That Jeffrey guy definitely has his moments,though he's not as bad, and Scott believes in preaching about the "correct" way of cooking. Ugh. I can't watch Amanda F. eat anything.

As for the pioneer woman, I like a lot her recipes. And her show doesn't really bother me, but I don't watch it often,only if there is nothing else on. It's not obnoxious like RR skipping around or Giada trying her hardest to pretend that she really is going to go eat that whole piece of cake, or Guy with his endless rhyming and outdated catchphrases. (It's the BOMB DOT COM YO! OFF THA HOOK! RAISE DA ROOF HOMIE!) You're pushing 50 man, it's not cute anymore.

Oh yeah, I love The Great British Baking Show, and love Mary Berry, too. I was sorry the American version didn't work, but I like the British version better, anyway.

Sally

@mimipadv -- I realize they are packaged and branded. What I find odd about the PW's branding is that there is a classic "reality gap" in her positioning. I've actually never seen her program, but read her blog posts. The branding suggests something way more rustic than the way she presents her product.

Agreed. I only looked at PW's blog on a very casual basis before the whole TV show, etc., exploded, and I had the impression she was much more middle class, and much more isolated where she's living, than the reality. OTOH, I can deal with that gap because that might have been her own perception of herself at the time. On the little I've seen of the show, she seems more grande dame deigning to make kid food and feed ranch hands, which is highly unlikely to be her own perception of what she's presenting, and I dare say she's an actual real person in her daily life, rather than swanning around with her wooden spoon as a sceptre.

I think being on TV makes people feel self-important, no matter who they are, and some of that leaks into the way they carry themselves. That may be less true with the young ones who come up through YouTube and the like, and are firmly in command of the idea that anyone with a smart phone can be on TV. :)

amylou321

Mimi,

I dont like that alex chick either. Speaking of the chopped judges,do they ever make you roll your eyes at the uptight snobbery some of them exude? I get it, they're JUDGES. But a few of them take it to far. I'm not a fan of Chris Santos, who picks apart every dish,literally (I mean who eats a taco with a fork?) And then shoots the chef down. That Jeffrey guy definitely has his moments,though he's not as bad, and Scott believes in preaching about the "correct" way of cooking. Ugh. I can't watch Amanda F. eat anything.

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The best person cast on that show is Ted. I love Ted. He's always so sincere with his "Sorry, you've been chopped".

Scott Conant and his dogged insistence that you can't put cheese on seafood is just eyeball-roll inducing. If I were a choppedtestant, I'd put red onions in everything, including a red onion, shrimp and cheese gelato ;-)

Ooooooo..

And serve it with pasta that isn't cooked PERFECTLY al dente and watch his ears turn purple with froo froo foodie indignation.

I think we should just make our own cooking show, we could all be on it, go on YouTube and at least we'd be entertaining as heck. (grin) And we could make red onion, cheese and shrimp gelato, and I'm betting SOMEONE would give us 5 stars and swear they made it!

Cindy, it's all a matter of perception, I suppose. I also read her blog a couple of times, but just couldn't get past what seemed to me to be "I could have lived in a civilized manner in the city, but see what I gave up to marry the guy I loved? And he just had to live in the country and be a cowboy. (sigh) See what a good sport I am about it?" I did make one of her recipes, which Amanda loved, a cheese and olive bread that had about a gazillion calories. Then Amanda found out she was celiac and can't have the bread, and I haven't made it since. I could make it with gluten free bread, but no one will eat that except Amanda, it's altogether vile.

I wonder how the mayo/butter/cheese/olives/etc. mixture would freeze? I could put it in little tubs and Amanda could have it on her own bread...

Anyway, I still find PW to be somewhat off-putting, but I suppose "I moved to the country and just sucked it up and am learning and adapting" doesn't have the same entertainment value as "city girl goes ranching and learns that cows aren't all that bad, especially grilled" does. (grin)

Annie

Plus, it's not like PW came from the inner city streets where grass only grows between the cracks in concrete. She doesn't hail from West Philly (or even NE Philly like me!).

She had a privileged upbringing to begin with, but the hyperbole is just what she does.

Everything is a Nicholas Sparks novel.

Knowing me (like I do), she should really grate on my last nerve, but inexplicably, she doesn't!

mimipadv I'm originally from Frankford! :-)

I forgot to add that I really love Jacques Pepin, and his new series is wonderful. Simple, real food. "Heart and Soul" is a terrific show.

We've seen the Heart and Soul on PBS. He can still chop like crazy at 80 years of age!

I lump Pioneer Woman/Ree Drummond in with Paula Deen in the J.P.A.C. category.

Just Plain Awful Cooks

I first followed PW at her blog years ago and was sorely disappointed in her interpretation of "pioneer" (dictionary definition - a person who helps create or develop new ideas, methods, etc.), What's "pioneering" about white flour, white sugar, white shortening, huge amounts of cooking oil, and really bad recipes? She didn't have a clue about food, nutrition, or food science - at least in her early blogging days - I haven't wasted much time on her for a long time. I will give her credit for being able to produce massive amounts of anything and EVERYTHING! If you ever try her recipe for cinnamon rolls you may need to bring out a 7-foot banquet table in order to have enough space to roll out HALF of the dough. It should be noted: this recipe is not made for small kitchens..... and needs instructions on how to retard dough in the refrigerator if you don't have a wall of convection ovens to bake in.

I at least expected her to have a grain mill and mill flour from wheat grown on their land, but that was just too "pioneer". I liken her recipe choices to old community or church cookbooks and picking the worst recipe in it, and then double or triple it.

On another message board I frequented, there were more of her recipe failings brought up in discussions, even though she remained popular (generally the same people who like that grotesque pants-dropping Paula Deen - video available on-line). How these people get a TV gig is beyond me?

How these people get a TV gig is beyond me?

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Really? TV is about entertainment. These people are the Rush Limbaughs of cooking. By and large, they don't have 1/10 of your knowledge, but that's not what tv ratings are all about.

"Pioneer" is an allusion. A moniker. A brand. I truly don't believe it's meant to be taken literally, and in that spirit, PW has been very successful.

There are literally thousands of food and cooking bloggers out there at any given time, and with her drive, talent and strokes of pure luck, she's amassed an empire. It's truly lighting in a bottle. The brass ring.

She didn't get there spending her time sowing seeds, harvesting and milling!

Did the Galloping Gourmet ever gallop?

Nadia whatserface never really "bitches" in her "Bitchin' Kitchen"

Are all of Alton's eats really "Good Eats"?

Restaurant Impossible has never actually been "impossible" as it turns out.

An so on ;-)

GL, I never saw the pants-dropping and I don't think I want to! I stopped watching Paula Deen when she had that "party" show and every time she had a male guest, she felt the need to lick them. I just couldn't stand to watch, no matter who was on or what they were making.

Annie

My favorite cooking personality these days is Ted Allen. And to watch him on Chopped Junior with the kids---- what a treat. He really loves them. And they return the love. Fun to watch the short ones call to Ted for some help, like lifting a heavier-than-expected pot off the range to reaching something up high or to open a jar. Ted is their hero. Mine, too.

Ree Drummond was a "pioneer" in the blogging arena. Not a lot of cooking blogs when she started. Now everybody and their mother seems to have one.

I think Ree set the bar high for food bloggers, with her photos and writing. Her blog is visually sumptuous.

I find a lot of great recipes on random blogs. You can tell pretty quickly the ones who can cook, so have a blog, and the ones who want a blog so try to cook. They might not have the kind of test kitchen homogenization that makes for foolproof results, but with underlying sameness, but for someone who knows how to cook and how to interpret and adapt for one's own kitchen, they're great! I find more great recipes in blogs than on cooking shows, for sure, and it's easier to find what one wants than in books. Never made a PW one, though, from either blog or show.

I saw a part of a good bad cooking show on PBS today. It was part of the NHK world block, and I was using it to keep track of fifteen minutes before I had to leave the house. The Japanese woman who was cooking had pretty good English but not a lot of vocabulary. "Ingredients" was used, unmodified, to mean seasonings and flavorings specifically, as well as ingredients in general, and things like that. If one was watching rather than just listening it was intelligible. The host seemed to speak Japanese at least somewhat but spoke American with a Western accent and filled in some descriptions. She was demonstrating very simple food for very beginning cooks. The one I came in on looked like a vegetable stew, then there was a "Japanese omelette" (i.e., fritatta).

Her recipes had the same quantity of seasonings/flavorings for each item so people wouldn't be scared off of cooking! That was the bad. Even if it was okay for what she was making, I shudder to think of people trying to do that with other recipes just by guess. OTOH, she was good about showing the basics, like how much salt was on her finger for a "pinch", and explaining why she worried the fritatta in the pan to loosen it. Neither dish looked particularly good, but they really were simple enough for a clueless in the kitchen viewer to make, and other than potentially being high in salt, they looked like things people should want to eat (veggies and eggs) rather than boxes of this and that, or colorless sludge. So it was good and bad, and for what it was aiming for, probably pretty good.

From the sound of things, I guess I'm fortunate that I don't have cable or satellite. I can't stand the 4timeFelon or the Belle of the Bigots. They put the felon on the PBS station around here but apparently most of the people think of her as do I since she didn't last too long and the Bigot (thankfully) never made an inroad in this area and I doubt she ever will. I liked Rachel Ray's 30 min show just to give ideas that you can make something quickly if you work. There's this idea you have to be in the kitchen all day long and face it, not everyone can do that. I miss Franco Palumbo and Justin Wilson. I do like America's Test Kitchen and Cook's Country. Not so much for the recipes themselves but for ideas on doing things differently. I'm less and less interested in their recipes now since they're getting more and more foo-foo in the whole cooking show. The British Baking show is entertaining. I did enjoy Frugal Gourmet and learned some things on there. I like New Scandinavian Cooking not so much for the recipes but for the history and the fantastic scenery. I don't watch the shows to get recipes. I watch them for entertainment, maybe learn something and get some ideas.