What other mixtures to try on last 2 raised beds (cheaply)
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Comments (12)Thanks Mauirose! Posting and gardening are always easier when you have someone like mauirose to show you how. I was encouraged when I saw you post a thread on this forum about a bug problem you were having. I always thought folks in Hawaii just had to poke a stick in the ground and then sit back and watch it grow and produce. Some times you might have to set your bowl of poi down and go harvest what you planted. I guess gardeners have similar challenges no matter where they live. Ted...See MoreBeginner Trying to Learn- Raised Beds? Organic?
Comments (4)First, gardening is as easy or hard as you make it. It could be as simple as filling a pot with soil and watering occasionally, or it could be as difficult as trying to double dig your garden by hand. Start small, talk with local growers/farmers, and nurseries to get help on your specific location. If I was you, I would make one bed, fill it with good compost, mulch with a couple inches of leaves, and your ready to plant! Now to your Questions: 1. There is plenty of info you can search up on your own time. You can google search, or even here at gardenweb they have several threads on drip irrigation. 2.normally most herbs are perrenial, they come back every year, usually bigger and stronger. They will choke out your annual vegetables, which life cycle only last one year. Also, herbs have different care and maintance than veggies, same goes with flowers... This is why most people make seperate beds for their vege, flowers, and herbs. I would have seperate beds, or you just need to keep them seperated enough so your garden is not crowded. The key is space, most begginers space thing to close, i. Order to optimize yield. When really, you justend up in a tangled mess.. Do things right the first time, lesson to directions, space plants adequately. 3. Compost or any good topsoil/gardensoil. Keep in mind you dont have to actually build raised beds to contain to soil, you could just mound soil and plant, saves tons of money and time! However, the soil can get washed away if a heavy rain, etc.. If you got the tome and money, you cant go wrong making a raised bed, 6" should be sufficient, tho I would probably go a foot.. 4. Different plants need to be started differently. The seed packets should give you directions. In general, some plants need to be started inside before the garden season, other plants can be seeded in the garden. You will hVe to start things like most flowers,herbs, veggies like tomato,eggplant, and pepper inside a couple months before your last frost date. Things like corn, beets, carrots, and leafy greens seeds can be just dropped in the garden. Again, your going to have to further your research, maybe your neighbors a gardener, he could tell you all his secrets in a day or two, talk to locals. 5. Well, now you know flowers, herbs, and vegetable should be seperated, so that takes a lot of guesswork out. Normally, you would plant the smallest, shortest plants(leafy greens,root crops) closest to the south, and the tallest plants(tomato,corn) closest to the north. This way none of your plants gets shaded from others. The brightest sun is from the south.. 6. If you are going to be having a raised bed, or just a big pile of soil mounded, that right their in itself would kill existing vegetation. However, if you don't add enough soil on top of your existing grass or whatever, the grass, etc will just grow right through.. That is the worst case scenerio, it's a nightmare. You would then either have to till/dig the bed thoroughly to kill the grass, or you could shovel the soil out of the raised bed, get rid of the grass, put down a layer of cardboard/newspaper, then put the soil on top of the cardboard. The cardboard assures that no existing vegetation will grow through. Landscape fabric does the same thing as cardboard, but it does not allow the plant roots to penetrate it, so you are cutting your roots off the earth, no good! I would not use landscape fabric, pain in the but!!! The reason some use chicken fence under the raised bed is to keep animals from digging under it. If you dont have to worry about your existing grass/lawn/vegetation growing up under your raised beds, or animals digging under your beds, you dont need chicken fencing or landscape fabric under your beds. You could still use landscape fabric ontop as a mulch top keep down weeds, but the fabric dows impede water, it also is inert, it doesnt decompose and nourish soil like nature intended, leaves or other plant mulch will benefit your soil greatly. That's why i would use plant material as mulch instead of the fabric, it does the same thing, better, plus has morw advantages. Perhaps the hardest part of your gardening experience is to read through all my typos? Good luck...See MoreNeed help in starting a raised bed veggie garden - Soil Mixture ?
Comments (10)SCgirl, I used untreated 2x12 lumber and heavy duty deck screws, and the bed dimensions are 4x8 feet. For each bed I took three eight foot pieces, and cut one in half to make the ends. Avoid the pressure treated lumber ( the CCA stands for copper, chromium, and arsenic). Cedar is best, just make sure you're sitting down when they tell you the price...you can still get a few seasons out of plain untreated lumber and save some money. The floor you see is landscape fabric, which will let moisture through but keep down the grass. I'll cover the pathways with cedar mulch. Inside the beds, I'll cut out the landscape fabric so I'll have a good soil interface for earthworms and beneficial microbes. Before the soil goes in I'll add a layer of cardboard just to make sure no grass/weeds have a chance to peek through. Here is a link that might be useful: Raised bed material analysis...See MoreHow do I build the sides of a raised bed?
Comments (0)There is no "right answer", it all depends on your personal preferences, your needs, and how much you want to spend. Keep in mind that in essence, a bed is any defined space holding a planting mix that differs significantly from the structure of the surrounding soil. Here are some options: Nothing at all: You don't *have* to have a side on your raised bed. Some folks just mound the soil up and use a hoe or rake to keep the edges relatively steep. This works best in places where flood action isn't likely to erode the beds with water running around them and there are not weeds or invasive grasses growing near the edge of the beds. Plus, it is really cheap, and can be lived with even in less than ideal circumstances until sides can be built later. Weedless Gardening by Lee Reich covers this approach. Sunken Beds:In keeping with the above, the raised part of building a bed is optional. Some desert locations use sunken beds to maximize water use. If you live in a hot, dry climate don't let the focus on reduced ground preparation distract from the advantages of a sunken bed. Though it is a lot of work to dig each sunken bed, screen out the caliche, and then add compost, etc. to the remaining soil, it is work that is only needed once per bed. The advantage of having a sunken bed that keeps water more easily combined with paths of undisturbed native soil can be well worth it in some climates. Untreated wood: Some people use thin strip of plywood with more solid corner stakes and simply replace their beds ever several years as the wood falls apart. Others have found that use of 2x lumber (either 2x8 or 2x12 or stacked 2x6s) lasts a very long time and is sturdy enough to bear weight even along the edges and resists mechanical injury from weed trimmers or wheelbarrows. Some staple heavy plastic to the inside of their wood sides to help keep moisture away from the boards and prolong their life. Use of a naturally decay resistant wood like cedar or redwood is both attractive and exceptionally durable, but considerably more expensive. Check the damaged wood section at lumber yards for big discounts. Landscape Timbers: They last almost forever even when in constant contact with moist ground. However, there is/was considerable debate about the CCA treated landscape timbers possibly leaching into the soil and being taken up by certain vegetables. A commonly recommended precaution is to placing a heavy-duty layer of plastic between the landscape timbers and the bed contents, which actually helps keep the wood dryer (thus lasting even longer) and prevented the preservatives from leaching directly into the soil. New wood preservatives are not supposed to be as dangerous, but using the plastic barrier method could not hurt... Plastic milk crates: Some have used plastic milk crates lined w/perforated cardboard & filled with soil as planters. They're great for growing carrots (24 to the crate). You can use them as edging for raised beds by arranging them in open rectangles that you then fill with soil. They form a sturdy, frugal & easily expanded raised bed system and container garden all in one. You can also use the wooden fruit crates that produce markets toss out. They only last a season or two (unlike the milk crates which may outlive us) but they work just as well. We do not recommend railroad ties: If there is enough creosote left in the tie to keep it preserved, there is enough to leach considerable quantities into the soil around it. The reason used RR ties can be bought cheaply is that throwing them away requires paying a hefty hazardous material fee. They are also a vector for transporting Formosan termites. If a railroad tie seems light compared to others that look fresher, most likely its middle portion has already been removed by some sort of wood destroying insect, and should not by purchased. The good ones do last forever and have a rustic look, but the plastic barrier method is not always sufficient to effectively stop creosote leaching. Masonry products: Durable, generally portable, and flexible, with a higher initial cost offset by permanency and other benefits. Existing or bought stone, cinderblocks, stacked or mortared bricks, or concrete paving materials all make a suitable bed edge. Cinderblocks can be moved or rearranged if a bed needs to be extended or relocated. For a classy permanent raised bed made from cinders or salvaged brick, it can be coated with a concrete based substance called hypertufa (See the Hypertufa forum here at GW for more information). Plastic bed edging: cheap shallow beds are a breeze to make using the generic black plastic bed edging materials. Especially useful if needing to make a raised bed around something, in tight locations, or to transition from a more formal planting into a vegetable patch tucked onto one end of a decorative garden. Rubber lumber made from old tires Fiber cement house siding boards (like Hardi-plank) or exterior fascia trim boards Plastic Mesh Corrugated tin Composite plastic/wood decking material (like Trex): it should work great-- but once you price it, you may decide to seek a cheaper option. Whatever you've got! Use your imagination and what is available-- then let us know if it works!...See Morergreen48
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