Rose troubles, paranoid newbie, help!
Hi, this has to be the third question I asked this week, but I'm going to do it anyway. So, I have these new ownroots (2 HT,1 floribunda, minature and David Austin) and I think they are doing OK (though I'm picking aphids off them every morning) but there is always some miscellaneous damage on the roses -they arrived perfectly unscarred (1-2 weeks ago) , but now are developing some problems that as a novice I have no idea if I should be worried about them. I am just going to list them:
First off, there has been some dark spots appearing on one side of my jude the obscure, and on my minature teddy bear, jude's probably the most healthy and least scarred, but the dots worry me (all those horror stories about blackspot). Teddy bear, seems to be yellowing and also has some spots, I can't tell if I'm overwatering him or underwater him, or something else, he also had a bud that was growing in, but somewhere along the way it disappeared, and I'm just left wonder what happened.
Second, there has been some random dry edges and spots in the middle of my ebbtide's leaves, an one of the buds seem to be very lopsided with its center all the way to the side. I don't know if it's insects of whatever. Also there has been some light webbing between the plants, just a few strands of silky material, I think they are just spiders so I'm not so worried about that.
Third, my new rugosa, when I got it seemed much more vigorous than my other but soon started to dry and cant seem support the weight of its own leaves. (I planted siberian irises and acetic lilies around both of them)
Lastly, just a quick question about sprays, I have Dr earth fungicide and insect spray, but I don't know how often I should use them, or only if the roses seem like they need them.
I really am new at rose gardening (and gardening in general) but I am willing to learn and put time into this as long as these roses can be happy. There are a lot more on the way btw; im digging beds for the fall. ANY ADVICE IS WELCOME (I'm in zone 6bish)
Photos!
Jude the obscure
Teddy bear, smaller band
Ebb tide ( it has a flower now!)
Rugosa (2nd one)
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jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
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Comments (12)hoovb, I planted them this Spring and a few before it got hot this summer. I so wish I hadn't pruned all the other damage. Jim, the leaves are from a giant Eucalyptus and there is no way to clean them up. They drop incessantly. I don't have mulch on this bed in the pic yet. But I do in the others and am having the same problem. (Mulch makes it even more impossible to clean the leaves up.) This I thought was going to be the big test for the roses if they could handle the Eucalyptus oil. In retrospect I have had roses in pots for years even under the Eucalyptus and they have never had a problem. At least not what I am seeing now. Michaelg, I am right where it starts getting hot and dry about 12 mins inland. Pic #1 those leaves are randomly spread around Pillow Fight. I think there was some on it when I bought it a few months ago. I have seen this on my clmb. Iceberg I have had for years and always remove the leaves quickly. I just never knew what it was? I have some leaves like this on my 60" Route 66 trees, randomly also. OK, Golden Celebration is not Golden Celebration SORRY It is Midas Touch HT (bare-root this last Spring) Picture 5 and 6. The canes end up turning yellow I cut them off before they hit the bud union. Being that they are new, and me too, I thought maybe they would change back. lol But the yellow would continue down with the leaves dying along the way. All that have been effected are roses from J&P from both batches I bought bare-root. BUT now it seems to be hitting others. Another BUT, not my roses I have had for years. Even the ones I put in the ground this year out of their pots in the beds with the effected ones. I haven't had much leaf drop at all. I may have been watering to late. It has been so dry here... The only thing I have sprayed is hort oil (in the evening when it's cool) and a while ago alfalfa tea. Sorry about the length of this but it has been really bothering me and I could finally get pics. Thank you!! Allison...See MoreNewbie needs serious help with pruning!! with pictures
Comments (8)Don't know if this will help or not, but here's my experience. The mature, 2-yr plants I purchased that were actively growing and large look silly to me. The ones that I already from the year before look much better, except where my newbie self did a hatchet job of pruning early this spring. Why? The mature plants hadn't been shaped & were allowed to grow gangly & lop sided because the nursery wanted the blooms to show, and they don't normally cut anything from a potted rose they're trying to sell. They all grew upright, lanky, and funny-looking. The ones I pruned had some "directional guidance" and went the way I intended. Another big thing I've noticed---I don't exhibit, so I tend to deadhead rather shallowly. I'm not trying to get long stems. Instead, I cut back just to where the nearest bud eye is emerging from a leaflet, as long as it's not too terribly thin of a stem. I don't get many long-stemmed roses for cutting, but I have very nice, full garden roses and that's my goal. ---Laura...See MoreNewbie Gardener - May have killed my rose bush
Comments (12)Might I gently suggest, Ickle Cat, that you be patient and wait for that outdoor garden next spring and plant roses then? Keeping a potted rose happy inside a warm apartment is very difficult, indeed. Starting out with a boxed, dormant rose (especially one of those unnamed chopped & waxed poor things) is even less likely to reach success. There is a good reason that roses are not usually house plants. You certainly can keep the potting soil moist and let things go for a some more weeks to be sure, but it sounds like your rose pushed all the energy it had stored in its canes into some growth and then you cut it off. That kind of "pruning" does not, I'm afraid, "make them grow." It may be putting out new roots and it may send out more new leaves - you can mist the canes to help keep them moist (if planted outdoors, one would mound them to keep them from drying out.) Don't keep the pot in standing water in a saucer; you don't want to rot the roots - but keep the whole thing nicely damp. Be sure to allow it the maximum sunshine you can manage and then be patient. No fertilizer, please, at this time. Either it will grow or it won't and all you can do is wait and see. The real trouble comes in if it does succeed in surviving and pushing out new growth - then it will be your task to keep it free of spider mites and other troubles that plaque roses in the dry, warm indoor environment...and you're realistically looking to do this for a year? Well, not impossible, but highly improbable, IMHO. I've overwintered potted healthy roses indoors just for fun - and believe me, it is a lot of work to keep them healthy. Did it for a few years and was glad to put the practice behind me! ;-) Perhaps you could spend this year researching and learning more about roses, what they need and how they grow. There are lots and lots of good books on the subject and not to mention lots of information on the Web. Visit nurseries and gardens and ask questions. You'll be far more prepared next year to make good choices of roses for your new garden and to keep those choices happy and growing. Sincere good luck to you!...See MoreRose leaflet pest damage - help a rose newbie!
Comments (22)Well, Cecily, I'm glad my trials & tribulations are SO entertaining & comical for you, meanwhile I'm shaking my fist at these damned pests! ;) I'm doing things much outside my comfort zone & I'm thoroughly enjoying it, except for certain things like hoping I didn't unknowingly smear a sawfly larva in my hair, freshly plucked from a leaf, when I wiped the sweat from my brow, or the sinking feeling of "wait, is that a spider mite web I feel across my face or is that just a single strand of my own hair that I'm feeling?! Oh God, what if I have spider mites IN MY MOUTH?!" Yes, it may not sound like when I'm posting every little new critter I come across, but I really am having fun with these roses! It's relaxing (believe it or not) and quite fulfilling (already) & I'm super stoked I can share my experiences with like-minded people who give me advice & input, because I really think my husband is getting tired of hearing me talk about roses already......See Moredogkitten6868
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