Where to start: building a "green" home
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Comments (10)A lot of advice is given, but rarely taken. I know, because I was one of the ones who didn't believe what people were telling me. It's all good, because what are we going to do with the money anyway...take it with us? I don't think so... OK then...what GreenDesigns says is 100% correct. Lets just stipulate you have enough money to basically get what you want (that is, you are not hopelessly naïve). Here's what I found to be the order from least expensive option to most expensive option for someone with some money who wants a lot of bang for their buck. Existing home - move in ready but its not up to today's standards for what people want. Existing home - somebody already remodeled it to the current tastes of the majority of people who are out there looking for homes in that price range. Existing home - Fixer-upper - you budget the new floors, new kitchen, new bathrooms, and whatever else and fold that into the purchase price of the home to determine its value to you. Note that budgets can go out of control here so really this option could come after Spec home below. Spec home - new home built on speculation to appeal to the majority of homebuyers. New development - you get some choices, you can have this color tile or that color. You can choose from a set number of floorplans. These builders are in the business of giving people what they want today. You get some customization but costs are controlled. Semi-custom - design build firm, plans off the internet you modify, etc. Custom. Custom homes are very expensive. A lot of what people think are custom homes aren't really custom homes. You buy the land, you interview architects, you shop for builders, etc. I chose the custom home because I thought I could do it at a price near a spec home price. Boy was I wrong. Almost 100% wrong...which is exactly what GreenDesigns says above. Like I said, it didn't kill me. I am always a bit tight with my money. But the cost sure has been an eye opener. And my best efforts to contain costs have given me many sleepless nights. Literally sleepless nights. I haven't had those in many, many years. If you are up for it, go for it. But beware. Good luck!...See MoreStarting points for a small house build
Comments (9)Have you heard about or seen the Katrina cottages? (Created after the destruction of Hurricane Katrina). You may find a plan that is similar to what you have already laid out, and they have been designed with efficiency of materials and cost in mind. Sometimes it's very helpful to see how others have thought about making homes affordable and well designed. Might be worth looking into. Also, around here, a structural engineer's stamp is required for homes, and they could maybe help reduce costs as well (stacked 2x4's as columns vs solid wood columns, reducing spans by a couple inches saves a couple hundred in size of beams, etc). Good luck!...See MoreMy first house build - just starting out
Comments (18)Overall it's a small, solid plan. Here are a few thoughts ... the biggest topic, I think, is storage: - I would widen the laundry room instead of lengthening it. If you widen it just one measly foot, you can have a whole wall of floor-to-ceiling shelves (note red box indicating massive storage in this space -- could be simple open), giving you a huge amount of storage for that small addition of square footage. - I added the green box at the end of the laundry room to indicate a perfect spot for a window seat. I know, it's not a need in this spot, but it would be lovely thing with windows above and storage space below. I'm imagining that you'd typically enter the house through the laundry room, and this would be a very nice sight line as you enter the house. - I think you're stuck with the post in the dining room. I'd make it dark rustic wood and use the same type of wood over the mantle and/or in shelving somewhere else in the main living area. - I don't know that I'd add to the dining room. You have space for a small table now ... and when you have guests, it can be extended into the space that would normally serve as walking space to the laundry room (your guests won't be accessing that room. - I'd go with a pocket door between the laundry and the main living space. It's going to remain open most of the time anyway, so this is an ideal spot for such a door. - I agree with the poster above who says that the laundry would be better on the bedroom wing. You say this is a retirement house. I remember my grandmother could do her own laundry just fine ... but she had trouble carrying baskets of clothing down the hallway; the result was that she made many multiple trips with a tiny basket perched on her walker. Not the safest choice. - 24x24 is a good-sized garage for two cars and a family. I do think 3 bedrooms/2 baths is reasonable for resale ... but I wouldn't upsize a garage. - Master bath: You'll have plenty of space for a large shower, if you're dumping the tub. I'd bring it to the inside wall so that you can have a window over the toilet on the other side. You say this is your retirement home; pay close attention to your shower and make sure it's elderly-friendly ... you know, curb-free flooring, grab bars -- those things won't hurt you now, and at some point you'll need them. - Even if you were a double sink kind of gal, this vanity appears to be 5', and that's not really enough to support duplicate sinks. With one sink in this space, you'll have room for nice-sized drawers. - If you add a bump-out to the back of the house so that the master closet can have storage on both sides, you'll almost DOUBLE your closet storage. A bump-out with a shed dormer won't cost all that much. I'd go 2-3' and make both the closet and the bathroom a little wider /more comfortable. - If you're going to bump-out the bathroom (for the sake of the closet), I'd keep going and bump out the living room too. It's quite cozy as shown now ... and those extra 2-3' would give you some elbow room. This will also allow you to scootch the back door around to the edge between the kitchen and living room ... meaning that the door (and the door swing) would no longer fall in the living room /would not impede furniture placement. I've circled the door spot in red. I know, I know, you're saying, "But I'm only one person! I don't need a larger closet, bathroom, living room!" You intend to stay in this house. At some point you may bring in another person, or you may want to sell the house. This little bit of elbow room will be useful. And we're talking about a small amount of space for a fairly large payoff. - I agree that an exterior door in the master bedroom is a good feature, but I'd consider a sliding door instead of an inswing door (indicated with a red circle) because a swinging door /hinged door will impede furniture placement in this modest bedroom. - I'd lose the vaulted ceiling in the master bedroom. Personal opinion, but it's just not a space where I'd splurge. - Consider your windows. You could have add a small window on the side of the dining room. Light from two sides always makes a room look nicer. And with the bathroom bumped-out a bit, you can have windows on two sides there too. - My final suggestion is that you simplify the hall bath. Drop down to one sink (which will allow you space for a linen tower) and eliminate the mid-bath door....See MoreHello, I'm new to this page and we are starting to build a house
Comments (55)Take a look at something with all the spaces you're considering in a more consolidated, better laid out design with a proportional roof: https://www.thehousedesigners.com/plan/southborough-cottage-house-plan-5558/ Make a couple changes -- note image below: - Pull the (green) great room out so it receives natural light ... put in a single French door between the great room and the covered porch (purple), which is now more square /less rectangle ... better for setting up an outdoor seating area, and it doesn't block your light. With this in mind, I would add windows to the SIDE of the kids' rooms. I'd then add a patio, which could be accessed from the screen porch, the great room, or the master bedroom. - Re-do the master bath (red) and master closet (blue) so that the bath receives natural light. You could also have a door connecting the closet and the laundry -- so convenient. I'd probably make the laundry /closet a bit deeper to allow for a folding cabinet opposite the machines. - Add your second garage (yellow) to the side ... the yellow garage would be slightly larger than the existing one. (I actually wouldn't do this, but you say it's a must.) - The breakfast area isn't 'specially spacious, but you could easily stretch your table out into the great room when you have a big group. - With the hall bath available for guests, I'd make the half-bath into a lovely little desk spot ... so convenient off the kitchen. Or a pantry. - It's not perfect, but it still gives you your craft space in the area that's now a dining room ... or you could use one of the kids' bedrooms as your craft space and put the other kid in the upstairs bonus room. Note that the flow works better: the hallways aren't long and twisty-turny....See Moremushcreek
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