What happened to the suggestions to move the kitchen to the breakfast room?

Personally I don't think either works. In fact the new one is worse in that now to get to the breakfast area from anywhere else, you have to walk past the cooktop (can you see someone frying something and young kids running past?) or you walk through the other work zone

You also have no dimensions but that space between counter and island looks very deep.

We all suggested you move the kitchen to the breakfast room. Why are you against that idea?

Thanks for your follow up cpartist.

A couple of people recommended getting rid of the powder room and I liked that idea after thinking it over.

Also spoke with my realtor who said that moving the kitchen to the bedroom/breakfast room would lower my home's value. I need an open kitchen with an island to add value.

Based on these constraints, how could I make the most functional layout? Thanks!

Why not just leave the other first floor bedroom in there instead of the breakfast room? Also, I would remove that other window to the left of the bay, rotate the fridge 90 degrees, and put it against the wall (with a few inches of space between fridge and wall to allow the fridge door to open) instead of having the awkward corner there. That would also allow you to move the island closer to the fridge/sink wall as the existing distance looks pretty far away.

Unfortunately - each element looks completely disjointed from all the others. The island is way to far away - it looks like it's in another room and is that oven really in the breakfast room? Does the dining room stay the dining room? Does this mean the first floor is essentially devoted to eating? (not that I don't like food!!!!)

I think this is an example of bigger not being better - I fear you would not like to move around in this kitchen and would curse the flow every time you had to drain a big pot of pasta, take something out of the broiler and plate it, or get a drink while having breakfast.

Thank you Noah. I originally thought about having the fridge where you suggested until I realized that there was a window there.

I guess I'm just not sure what would be involved in taking out the window. The exterior is old stucco and I'd want it to match if the window were filled in. Maybe I could put in a decorative stained glass window or something to show on the exterior and just drywall over it inside?

Jannicone, thank you for your feedback.

I tried to follow the "ice, water, stone, fire" advice. It seems like it would be relatively easy to get ingredients from the fridge, move to the prep sink in the island and prep on the counter there, then move to the range.

The space between the island and counter is about 7'6". I thought this would be ok since it's keeping the prep zone separate from the cleanup zone. It would also allow enough space for another person to work at the main sink without bothering the person at the prep sink.

Thanks for your help. I've read the FAQ's and I'm trying to apply that info but maybe I'm just not getting it.

This is an unusual request, but in your old thread, you posted pictures of the home's interior. That is ordinarily really helpful, but this home has so many arches/columns that it was difficult from just the pictures to make sense of how the downstairs rooms currently relate to each other and where exactly walkways are currently.

Would it be possible for you to make a little video, just walking from the front door to the back deck door and showing each of the rooms (living, dining, kitchen, and future potential breakfast room) along the way? I think might make the room relationships on the your first floor more clear.

The best solution for your space is going to be something more out of the box than what these proposed kitchen layouts currently entail, but when you are getting creative, you first need a really good sense of the whole space, and I don't currently have that.

Jillius, sure! A video would be fun. I can try to do that in the next day or so.

All the unusual arches, columns, and half-walls are actually going to be removed. The ceiling is also currently pitched in multiple directions with lots of beams, We're going to raise the ceilings, too.

I think it's good that rebunky disobeyed ; ) because I really like what rebunky did with the layout and agree that moving the stove would be my top priority.

Could the oven go on the end to the left of the stove in rebunky's layout? I'd be really annoyed by the oven being so far away from the stove top as I often roast things then combine on the stove, etc.

Also spoke with my realtor who said that moving the kitchen to the bedroom/breakfast room would lower my home's value.

Why would it lower the value if the layout of the house flows better? Is your realtor someone who normally deals with old houses? Maybe you need to check with a few more realtors?

I need an open kitchen with an island to add value.

Some houses don't warrant an island. Adding an island for the sake of adding an island is not wise if it screws up the flow of the house and having the kitchen where it is, is screwing up the flow of the house.

If you redo the house so it flows, keeps the architectural elements that old house lovers love, fix the flow of the house, and create a beautiful and period appropriate kitchen, no one will then say, sorry I'm not buying it because it doesn't have an island. And it won't lower your value.

Honestly, I think that was not a very smart comment by your agent.