36" Gas Range and Cabinet Clearance - Help!
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Comments (11)It is tough picking out a new range. I am looking for a third range in the space of 7 years to fill the space in my kitchen. One thing I like about the prostyle ranges is the depth that allows the use of big pans. The Pro Harmony is cabinet depth so you lose this benefit. The burners on all prostyle ranges are wider sealed or open, so you will have small pans enveloped on high heat. Most come with at least one small pan burner though. My current range is a Wolf DF with sealed burners and I like the burners. I can use a 7 inch, shallow sauce pan on the burners and it will heat evenly but the key is having cookware that is heat conductive. For smaller pans, I use the small pan burner. In evaluating a burner, look at the BTU range high and low to evaluate the heat you will use. To compare apples and oranges you need the actual BTU number not "140 degree simmer". Next look at the burner configuration. Star shaped burners have the burner ports spread over a greater area. Some have the ports oriented in such a way that when you turn the heat up the flame flares to the side of the rays. This keeps the foot print of the heat about the same but in order to take advantage of that you will have to size your pans to the burner. This is useful if you cook with pans that have poor heat conduction like cast iron or thin metal. Other burners have the ports oriented toward the outside. When you turn them up they will flare more toward the outside, expanding the heat foot print. This is good if you use bigger pans. Sealed and open will do that but the amount of flare depends on the way they are engineered. If your pans conduct heat well(thick aluminum or thick copper) you will maximize the usefulness of any burner. There are all kinds of videos on youtube and if you can't see a range in person that will give you an idea of the size of flames in relation to your pot and you can also find videos about what is involved in cleaning the burners. They are all different. Some are marketing videos so you have to take with a grain of salt but you can see the burners in action. The reason I am getting rid of my Wolf is that the blue enamel started chipping at 4.5 years old. They won't give me a price to fix it but only that the labor starts at $800. In light of the ongoing issues with Wolf Blue enamel and the fact that they will only warranty the repair for a year or maybe even less I don't want to reinvest. The AG range does not have the blue enamel though. One thing to consider is that someone related on another thread that they talked to Wolf and Wolf now will only warranty the interiors of their ovens for 60 days. The actual wording of the warranty does not mention porcelain interiors but only stainless so not sure how they can do that. I liked the AP too but they do not have any warranty on the interiors or glass of their ranges so that is a deal breaker for me given the history of revolving appliances in my kitchen....See More36" All Gas Range Help - the bad choices are endless
Comments (14)Adding to what catinthehat said about negative reviews, consider several internet tendencies which have been discussed here frequently. Summarized briefly, they are as follows. One is that, except in sites like his one, disappointed customers are more likely to post than satisfied ones. With the volume in which appliances are sold, even a small percentage of problems can translate into a large number of negative posts. A second is that every manufactured product line is going to have some lemons that get past quality control or break earlier than expected. That is what warranties are supposed to be for. More and more warranty service is mostly outsourced to low bidders with high turnover, overscheduling, less skilled employees who may not know what they are doing. There is nothing like slow and poor warranty service to turn a product disappointment into rage that translates into internet crusading Third, consider the specificity of the negative reports and if there are patterns to them. When you see a lot of generalized "Nobody should ever buy anything form this @#$%^&*+! company again because their product(s) are $#!+" you may be seeing some postings by trolls and such. OTOH, if you see a pattern of specific reports of the same or similar problems, you may be looking at a product with significant design or manufacturing issues. One particular source of complaints is the increasingly prevalent electronics boards --- there seems to be a constatnt temptation to increase profits by cheapening out on the boards. In sites with long running threads, if you see an upsurge in complaints about electronics, it may be a signal of that symptom in a model to avoid. Fourth, when sites have lots of reviews without disappointed customers, the site may be being managed to exclude critical reviews. Finally, consider the age of the negative reports. Sometimes new models have teething problems that get sorted out....See Moreany opinions on a 36"gas Wolf range vs a 36" Blue Star range???
Comments (17)We have had the 36" Blue Star range (model RCS36SB) for about 5 years and would not recommend it. The knobs get very warm and we have had problems with the convection fan as well as ignition (gas would build up in the oven while it failed to ignite), both problems required multiple service visits The latest problem, the oven knob broke off and Bluestar said they no longer manufacture the part. Bluestar said they changed from a mechanical thermostat to an electronic thermostat and the ”upgrade” would cost $350 to purchase, not including installation (total cost estimated at least $500). I assume they redeigned the oven knob/thermostat because they had so many problems with the knob, convection and ignition. Even though it was under warranty and the knob broke due to faulty design, the service manager refused to provide a replacement part. I guess you can expect problems to occur with any appliance, but I do not expect them to provide such poor service, especially when they know it broke due to their own design flaw. It takes them days to follow up on service questions. Best to stay away from Blue Star....See MoreThermador 36" range -- 36" commercial depth with gas and induction?
Comments (16)Yes - we ended up with just the Thermador gas range- Thermador PRG366WH Pro Harmony® 36 Inch Wide 5.1 Cu. Ft. Slide In Gas Range with 6 Burners. We were close to getting the Thermador Dual Fuel professional range 36” pro grande commercial depth range which includes 2 induction burners and 4 gas burners but hesitated due to extra $$ and increased depth. We have been very happy with the range we got but definitely still wishfully dreaming about the Pro Grande!...See MoreDetox
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