We just need to get you set up with the right seeds, that's all. Phil has some new resources for good high quality Thai seeds, we will have to explore the options when the warm weather arrives. I have about 4 inches of snow on the ground right now so I am counting the days like clock work for March to come.

Tracy

Super nice seedling, Tracy. Hope it proves to stay true for you.

Many of the Mini Size obesums have the same leaf type and growth as the DH, but many grow with flat leaves. The ones w the folded and curled leaves show the same characteristics.

Gill, Maybe you should try some of these Diamond King or Queen seeds I have?

Rick

Tracy, yes the right seeds, I thought I'd sourced some for the G Bell grow out but they failed spectacularly!

Not seen Phil around lately, hope all is ok with him?

Rick, hello! That's like dangling a carrot in front of a donkey, ha-ha! You wouldn't be trying to tempt me...would you?

Better close its 1am.....and get this thread back on the Dorset Horn track, sorry Tracy : /

Gill UK

Thanks, Rick. I did chat with Phil just a couple of days ago, I think he has been doing some training for his dog psychology courses.

Those seeds rock, I also bought some from Dino. I suggest you jump right on it Gill!

Time will tell with the seedling. Goodnight Gill, its late! :)

Tracy

Nice plant! Those DQ and DK are nice too, Gill. You should try them! ;)

Of coarse Gill. I heard that you might be thinking of a new batch of babies. Are you getting the Spring bug, yet.

Rick

That's a really cool seedling. I never heard of DR til this post.

Gill, don't give up. You'll eventually end up with a good one or two again. Good luck!

Lovely plant in the making Tracy, really does need a lot of care!

Thank you, Sinha And Jedoba too. This one is a slow grower but it will be doted upon. Bob there are many forms of Dorset Horn. Many are so fun and attractive. But there are also many that are in poor form. The roots are known for growing poorly on these, the curling of the leaves is an inherited genetic defect. From what I gather the Thais that breed them are making breakthroughs with stronger root systems. They should becoming more widely available in the US and Europe over the next year or two.

Tracy

Congrats on your seedling Tracy, looking good! Was not familiar with "dorset horn" prior to the post, but looked it up - really cool.

So are "dorset horns" considered a monstrose form of Adenium?

Daniel

Thanks Daniel. These are not considered monstrose , however there are crested versions of the Dorset Horn. These are popular in Thailand for grafting.

I forgot to mention, that this is seedling is from of KO's Noble Concubine seeds so the flowers will be Picotee.

Tracy

Tracy, how often do you water the plants which are growing in growstones, if I may ask. And how do you assess it?

If I recall correctly, some of the dwarf forms are quite weak and are therefore grafted on healthier and more vigorous rootstock.

Congratulations on your DHA, I was lucky enough to have some come up amongst some of my home grown desert rose seeds, First of all I had no idea what they were, just that they were cute fat little babies and so different. After a lot of googling I finally found them. I have been trying to find out what they are worth but I can't find them for sale anywhere. If any of you lovely people have any idea, I would appreciate it, As I have people inquiring about mine to buy. Not sure still if I want to part with any of them yet.

Thanks Michelle. I wish there were some real progress to report but this seedling isn't growing fast at all. Time will tell if it will even survive. They are not as vigorous as a normal plant. The only sources I know to buy them is Thailand and they are high dollar even though the market is quite flooded with them over there in my opinion.

Tracy

Cheers for the info Tracy, I agree they don't seem to grow as fast as my others, but they are such cute chubby plants, I just love them

Tracy, maybe you should consider grafting. Or try repotting it using a different kind of soil mix. The soil in the photos looks very fast-draining with fairly large pieces of coir.

The bottom pic looks like a swaying palm

He is so cute Adrienne, Thank you for sharing your photo, It looks very healthy.

Here is one of my babies about 3 months old, I will take some more updated photos,

Thank you for the update photos Tracey, It looks like a nice strong plant, lets all keep putting update photos of these unusual adeniums as there really is not much info out there.

nice seedling!

Your adenium look like Minisize not look like DHA.

Nice, Tracy. Your seedling looks to me to hold more of the DH character, than that of Michelle's above. Her seedling look more like Mini-Size obesum character. Very nice seedlings, Michelle.

Rick

I looked up this dorset horn adenium thing to find out what an adult would look like----Hindu rope hoya on a stick! This is one of the best funky look I've seen in a cultivar.

Where I live, I'd have to dunk this baby in a bucket of neem every autumn. Great growing, you guys.

Pagan

Thanks Rick! I am happy to see it finally adding some size on it. I have some seeds coming too so I will be trying to grow a few more.

Tracy

That settles it then. They are indeed the funkiest of adeniums, not counting the hundreds-year old mammoths growing in habitat.

The first picture also gives me an idea how to make these plants grow even faster. That's a tropical nursery (note the banana shrubs) and the GI sheet they are sitting on. I'd say that raises temps easily up to 40C or hotter in summer.

Pom has been teaching me a few things, it's his farm in the photo above. They feed them cycles of gibberellins. This helps the plant to grow without the leaves getting wrapped up too tight and making it difficult for them to efficiently absorb the sunlight.

Tracy if you ever want to sell one of your seedlings, I bet there would be a waiting list. I will have to read more on gibberellins, thanks

What is a GI sheet? Isn't there a temp that is to hot for the tree? Or does it just need more water?

GI sheet=galvanized iron sheet. Is that a Philippine thing, then? I thought it was called that everywhere else.

It gets hotter than 40C in their natural habitat, Marica. For places with seasons, they would have to be eased into that kind of temperature and they will definitely need heavier substrate that will retain water longer, like the stuff you can sort of glean from that photo. I don't know where that nursery is but if it is in Southeast Asia, temps will not go below 26C except early mornings in January.

Pagan

Pom's nursery is in Chantiburi, Thailand.

Tracy, are you selling seedlings in general or do you have this super horned plant for sale as well? I want one.

Pagan I am selling seedlings in general. The DHA I am currently in negotiations with the breeder for a group order. They are freaking expensive! I have a friend that I am going to split the shipping with but I can get a better deal on 6 or 8 plants than when I just purchase a single plant, or the two that she and I are planning to get. One is circled above in the photo of the tropical nursery that I have reserved. Of course a group split also saves on shipping.

Tracy

You're "currently in negotiations"! Sounds like you're merging with a Dorset Horn lol I have an idea what you consider expensive and it's astronomical for me since I think a $15 dime-sized haworthia is expensive. I'll just have to enjoy your plant vicariously.

Pagan

I have a number of expletives competing for release in my head right now lol Let's go with "gadzooks, that is pricey!" It's the price of 20 or so assorted haworthias! About half of a good bench grinder and two grippers!

Keep posting the pictures then!

Pagan this is the only reason I don't have one yet and have to negotiate because I am not paying this crazy amount!!! I may just have to stick with seeds. I have some DH Chada Petch seeds and a few Mini Chao Praya that I paid a mint of gold for that will be here in a week or two. Cross your fingers that I get at least 5 of of this investment.

Tracy

Hey that looks like a coconut tree. Ish.