Speed Queen TL vs FL
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Speed Queen TL or Fisher & Paykel TL not Aquasmart
Comments (6)plumorchard said:Â Are they really discontinuing the only agitator model?No, the EcoSmart agitator unit is still listed (current model WA37T26GW2). It's equivalent to the previous models GWL10, GWL11, GWL15, etc. The Intuitive Eco (IWL12, IWL15, IWL16) was a step-up in features and options from EcoSmart. Your link is an "old" page that's apparently still in the database on the hosting server. IWL16 is not shown if the page is backed-up to the start of the Clothes Washers section, so I assume that indicates it's discontinued and limited to stock on-hand....See MoreForget Miele, just get TL Speed Queen and have no problems!
Comments (71)Taking a chance and resurrecting this VERY old thread to ask a question about SpeedQueen - Don't want to risk being slammed for not choosing Miele. We are Miele fans - have half of all kitchen appliances from Miele - and were definitely considering a Miele laundry pair all along until I read this thread - I'm mostly concerned with the amount of time it takes for a Miele cycle, and since we have hired help doing most of the laundry, i'm worried that the helpers / maids will mess up with the complicated set of setting options on the Miele (and end up using the wrong temperatures etc!). We can't get residential models of Speed Queen where we are - but the local Commercial Speed Queen dealer (actually, Huebsch since we're in Canada) offered a commercial TL model that seems to have enough cycle settings to suit our needs. My question is, is anyone here familiar with the model ******YWN311 of Huebsch*******? The spec sheet says washtub volume is 3.3 cu ft - how does that compare to the "per kg" measurement that's used by, say, Miele? Any comments on whether these Speed Queen / Huebsch commercial machines would get "too rough" on fabrics? We're generally just washing sweatshirts, T shirts, school uniforms, beddings, towels etc. I'm not the type to put any delicates or sweaters into laundry machines. We haven't totally given up on Miele yet ... well-meant, constructive suggestions (on how to fool proof our machines to not be misused by hired helpers) are welcome. You'd be wasting your breath if you tell me to "go do my own laundry on the Miele" LOL. On the other hand, I'd like to quote a very smart friend of mine from when we attended together a Miele demo session), "if i'm THAT worried about a piece of garment, I'd just either hand-wash it or take it to dry cleaning"....See MoreAny good reason not to choose a SpeedQueen FL?
Comments (15)"I don't know that one would get the laundry any cleaner than the other...which is really the ultimate goal here". You might have heard the principle that cleaning is based on four factors: mechanical action, chemical action, time, temperature. So how do the SQ and the Miele compare on each factor? Mechanical action: Pretty much the same, I guess. Chemical action: Depends on the products you use, not the machine. Time: The general-purpose cycle on the Miele W4840 has a somewhat longer wash portion than the general-purpose cycle on the SQ. And there's an option to roughly double the Miele's already-longer wash. So Miele has the advantage here. Temperature: The Miele has five evenly-spaced temperature selections, boosted by its heater if necessary, and maintained by the heater. Even its "cold" setting is at the full 30degC (86degF) allowed for garments labeled for cold wash. The SQ, if equipped with heater, has four selections, of which only one is heater-boosted and heater-maintained. Its hot and warm settings may start out at 120degF (if domestic water heater set to 120degF and no heat loss in pipes) and 100degF respectively, but they'll immediately drop because of heat lost to the load and the washer itself. SQ cold setting is 60degF. Miele has the advantage here too. So I would conclude that the Miele can clean better than the SQ FL....See MoreWhich washing machine? Fisher Paykal vs. speed queen vs. new GE
Comments (9)Be very careful about the build quality, customer service, and promises made by GE. They plumbed up the appliance cash cow for sale. If the sale to Electrolux doesn't go through there will be consequences. The quality of most of the GE laundry appliances is just so-so in my opinion. As in everything YMMV. There are winners, losers, and lemons in every product line as well. You will not find an easy consensus on anything because there are so many choices and no perfect solutions. Many bells and whistles and duplicate cycles to attract your attention. Who does most of the laundry? What are your must-haves? HE toploaders are a disaster. Consumers who don't read manuals or follow common sense have given some perfectly acceptable frontloaders a bad reputation with their bad habits. You will find a following for F&P on the forum as well as those who hate them. Speed Queen has a cult following on this forum. Most of us had to plod through, make a few mistakes, and decide what worked best for each. Do your appliances have to match? My compromise was to get the functionality in the frontloader (LG) I needed and pair it with the same color, but different manufacturer cheaper dryer. It's mostly worked out for us. BTW Speed Queen does make front loaders, but they do not have on-board heaters. I assume you are already acquainted with the differences in today's machines for limits of water temperatures and water levels and what you have been used to. First thing I would do is make sure I knew exactly what I needed at my best price point. Good Luck...See MoreAlex Chicago
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