Trane Xl950 Tstat ... good, bad, ugly?
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Comments (10)All, sorry for the delay. I assumed I would get email pings when posts were made so was not checking this daily. 1. Home is a 2 story clonial, approx 2,500 sq ft per floor, well insulated, although I need to add more insulation to the attic. 2. System 1 is a 2 year old Carrier 3.5 ton unit matched with a 20 year old 3.5 ton A/c. evap coil is bad so I am told. Installer is offering me $1k for the carrier system. System 2 is 20 year old system that is dead. it is also a 3.5 ton system with a 5 ton a/c for some reason. 3.Furnaces are located in the basement, side by side. A/C's are located on the East side of the house. House faces North with walkout to the South. 4. I do not know the rates off the top of my head for electric or gas. Gas is a lot cheaper than electricity from what I gather here. Consumers Energy is our Gas providor and DTE Energy does the Electric. 5. I do not know exact model numbers. The Furnaces are Trane XV95 (95%AFUE/80kbtuh) models. The Heat Pumps are Trane 16i (16 SEER/4 ton/2011 model). Southeastern Michigan is relatively mild over all temperature-wise. There are a bunch of sever days hot and cold, but nothing that is a major problem like would be in Upper Michigan or any other Northern state. Detroit/Chicago/Pittsburgh type weather. I hope this helps. Seems like this is a nice system. I'm glad to see some comments. Any more advice is much appreciated....See MoreReplacement Trane system opinion
Comments (5)BL is right. The latent capacity (as a percentage of total capacity) tends to be lower during low stage operation, as is the case in just about all manufacturers' two-stage scroll compressor systems. The primary reason is the larger indoor coil volume with respect to the condenser output capacity. This is offset somewhat with the longer runtimes provided with a 2-stage unit, and the key is that you don't oversize 2-stage units such that they short cycle in low stage. Also, in my opinion as long as the 2-stage unit isn't (grossly) oversized as per the load calc, this issue is a bit less significant with the Trane Hyperion air handlers with the EEV (and the expanded performance data tend to show it, last I looked). The EEV does a good job accurately metering refrigerant flow under a wide array of operating load conditions to get the coil cold rather quickly and ready to dehumidify quite well. As BL also mentioned, with a good control like the Honeywell VP IAQ, you can have the system wired/configured to decrease airflow 20% when humidity is above set point -- this further increases latent capacity. A properly sized single-stage or two-stage unit should do a fine job dehumidifying. The two-stage unit will likely give you longer runtimes and greater comfort. A smart thermostat (as mentioned) is a great addition. This post was edited by ryanhughes on Wed, Mar 12, 14 at 14:43...See MoreTrane System Opinions:Advice Wanted
Comments (22)The answer to your HD question- Yes, no or maybe. All kidding aside, your local Trane dealers enter into contract with HD to provide their services under the HD umbrella. Yes, HD gets a cut, something like 25-30%, depending on market, however, the contract services to HD are less since, HD is providing the leads, sales and many times the financing. So you see, HD can be competitive however if you choose to solicit their services, it is always good to compare with other brands and/or dealers to find a reputable company that you feel will give you the best install, service and fair price....See MoreAdvice on New Trane Quote
Comments (10)Finally got another quote - this one is for an American Standard system - They recommend: First floor 17.0 SEER , 2-stage, 2.0 ton hybrid heat pump system Remove the existing 1.5 ton outdoor Amana unit and indoor 60,000btu gas furnace in the crawl space. Install a new outdoor American Standard Heritage 16 Series 2.0 ton/ 2-stage heat pump system mounted on a level pad and pop-ups. Run a new refrigerant line from the outdoor unit to the new indoor 95% efficient/ 80,000 BTU/ 2-stage natural gas furnace with a variable speed blower motor. We will install new PVC intake/vent pipe, connect back into the exiting condensation drains, make some duct modifications to fit the new furnace into the existing duct. We will also add 2 supplies in the office and 1 in the family room. American Standard Heritage 16- 2.0 ton 2-stage heat pump Model # 4A6H6024E1000A American Standard 95% efficient natural gas furnace Model # AAM7A0B30H21SA American Standard indoor evaporator coil Model # 4TXCB031BC3HCB 2nd/3rd floor 17.5 SEER, 3.0 ton heat pump system Remove the existing 2.0 ton outdoor Amana unit and 3.0 ton indoor air handler in the 3 floor knee wall. Install a new outdoor American Standard Heritage 16 Series 3.0 ton/ 2-stage heat pump system mounted on a level pad and pop-ups. Run a new refrigerant line from the outdoor unit to the new indoor variable speed air handler with a 10kw backup electric heat strip. We will connect back into the exiting condensation drains, make some duct modifications to fit the new air handler into the existing duct. American Standard Heritage 16- 3.0 ton 2-stage heat pump Model # 4A6H6036E1000A American Standard 3.0 Variable-Speed air handler Model # AAM7A0B30H21SA American Standard 10kw back-up electric heat strip Model # 4TXCB031BC3HCB Price($ 15,950.00). This price includes the equipment, taxes, labor, and a $1,600.00 dollar American Standard instant rebate. Obviously 2 American Standard systems for the price of 1 Trane system is starting to sound a bit more realistic. Any recommendations on whether this looks in line for what costs/sizing should be? Thanks in advance!...See More- 8 years ago
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