Feral cat colony
moonie_57 (8 NC)
8 years ago
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Comments (8)It is nice of the cat club to invite and promote rescue group and adoptions...very nice Yet, no convincing in the world will ever change my mind on buying and breeding, while I am seeing the suffering and know how many animals are put down every day. Yes, when responsibly done, I understand breed specific groups reasoning...I just hope that most animals that are sold are spayed or neutered I guess I do not know much about the cat fanciers world....All I know I have 10+ fosters in the house, some black cats that no one wants...A feral cat that needs a leg amputated, and another semi feral who cannot walk straight after being hit by car/person in the head.. I trapped 7 cats with my two cat buddies last night, for TNR, and found two abandoned babies...while searching for a nursing mom, Animal Services volunteer emailed me asking me to get one of theirs out...as there are so many of them, with babies, "scheduled for euthanasia" . I hate reading these lines, I hate thinking I cannot save every cat. No one can. Such is one day from a life of an animal rescue person; every day is something different. For every cat we adopt out, we have 10 lined up needing help... I hope more and more people are fixing their animals, consider adoption and do find a place in their house and in their heart for a black kitten!...See MoreBird lover kills cat. Charged with crime.
Comments (39)Maybe it is my technical training but in this topic and so many others what I notice first is a failure to look at the big picture. A few observations: Many posters have said that the cat should have been trapped and turned over to an animal shelter. Lets get one thing straight. This already happens with countless cats, who frequently get euthanized because no one claims or adopts them. Yes there is a system in place to capture and place stray cats but like every other system devised by man it has its limits and unfortunately due to the fecundity of cats and the irresponsibility of many so called pet owners there are more cats than can be dealt with. The existence of shelters does not mean the cats won't die. The only thing that has any realistic hope of ensuring the safety of a domestic cat in the US is a comitted and competent owner who shelters and feeds the cat, provides medical care including spaying or neutering, and doesn't ever let the cat roam outside or reproduce at will. Consistancy is important. Logic doesn't work without it. If animal shelters could handle the feral cat population then there would be no argument for Trap, Neuter, and Release (TNR) programs that maintain feral cat colonies. The hypothesis is that if you removed the existing feral cats they would only be replaced by other feral cats moving in so it is better to maintain sterile cats in these available urban niches. The logic of this is totally lost on me because if there are other feral cats out there in the shadows, then THEY are starving and pushed around by the comparatively well fed and healthy TNR colony cats. If on the other hand there aren't that many feral cats out there on the fringes then it would be better to trap them, find homes for all that you can, and do what needs to be done with the rest. As for the fools who suggest "relocating" cats, you mean dumping them on someone else? Where they have to violently reestablish their place in the pecking order all over again, in an environment that all groups agree is overcrouded? Would any of us like to be "relocated"? Perhaps to some of the more colorful areas of LA, NY City, Detroit? Who thinks it would be any better for a cat? The people on the front lines know there aren't enough beds in the shelters. As much as I think the TNR programs are dodging the issue, I don't think they are making things worse as long as they do what they claim, sterilize the cats and feed them. Feeding them makes them somewhat less likely to hunt and makes them able to out compete the non-sterile cats. Not what cat lovers would like to hear, I'm sure. People should obey gun laws. Did this guy break any gun laws? Probably. It is hard to shoot a gun these days without breaking a law. Was he 500 feet from the nearest road? No. His target was under a road. Prosecute him for that. Did he break any wildlife laws? One post said it was legal to shoot cats at that time. Don't prosecute him for that. The guard claimed ownership of the cat, which was completely outside of his control. The moment the guard claimed ownership he should have been nailed for cruelty to animals, letting his cat live like that, and for property damage done by the feral cats in that area including his cat. I say his cat although that is a joke, but he claims it is true. Personally I don't see any difference between cats and rats. My brother's kids have some pet rats and they are sweet little things, totally unlike wild rats. Same with cats. This unfortunately is almost entirely a battle for hearts and minds without any logic to it. If cat lovers really want to secure the high ground they should be the ones insisting that that guard be prosecuted. People are the greatest invasive species, depending on your point of view. I personally want to have adequate food, water, shelter, safety, etc. If any other organism threatens to interfere with that it is in my opinion a pest. Here's where it gets complicated. According to this definition most of the "pests" in the world are other people. I can not justify defining other people as pests. If you want to be consistant and logical you just can't call people pests, in the grand scheme of things. Sure, it would be a load off of the world if half the population died. Who? Half my family, determined by lottery? Or perhaps we could decide by skin color or religion, like the Nazis did? You see where I am going. Don't waste any time talkng about how people are the problem, even though they are. There is nowhere useful to go with this argument. Now that that is off the table, understand that while habitat preservation is desireable, it is linked to population. Personally I think we ultimately need to talk about population but not in a polite forum like this. That belongs in a knock down drag out forum on doomsday scenarios, which this isn't. If we go there we would be talking about poisoning feral animals wholesale like we do rats. I have read alot about the pressure that feral cats put on bird populations. I think that it may be true that they prey more on rodents than birds because rodents can't fly and are easier prey. I imagine that some birds are much more vulnerable than others. To do this right we would have to evaluate each prey species individually. I'll bet that the seabirds that the ornithologist was allegedly protecting are among the more vulnerable species. My take is that I can see why a sane person would do what this ornithologist did. He had a vested interest in the welfare of these particular birds just as a farmer does in his livestock He would have understood the particular threat that feral cats would pose to a threatened population. He would understand population dynamics. He would have seen that the population of feral cats was doomed to remain at dangerously high levels due to the inability of society to come to grips with the problem, as is shown by how many posters naiively propose ineffective alternatives even as overwhelmed local health authorities throw up their hands and cave in to assorted cat fanatics who were feeding the cats anyway. Prosecute the guy for any gun violations if you must, but to do any more is fiddling while Rome burns....See MoreFeral rescue cats arrived
Comments (12)I know your intentions are good, but there is just nothing about this situation that sounds at all humane to me. The cats were taken out of the social structure of their established colony and territory and are now spending the next 30 days terrified, confined in large cages in unfamiliar territory with unfamiliar animals and people. After that, they will be turned loose into a territory which, according to your member page, is too dangerous for outdoor cats because of your coyote population. That just doesn't sound like a kindness for the cats. If they survive the stress of the next 30 days of their confinement without falling ill or injuring themselves in the attempt to escape, and if they remain within the relative safety of the confines of your farm buildings after being released, they may survive until and unless they become ill or injured and you can't catch them again to help them. That just isn't a scenario I'm willing to subject an animal to. I, too, live on a farm, and I have thirteen cats, more than half of whom were dumped or otherwise just showed up here. Of the eight "show-ups" (all adults), four were tame strays, two were semi-feral, and two were feral. All eight were brought (or trapped, as the case may be) inside and integrated into my family. One of the tame strays now prefers to spend all day every day outside, and some of the others go out less frequently and usually only briefly. The two ex-ferals and two semi-ferals spend all of their time indoors quite happily. The cats who choose to go outside during the day keep my barn's rodent population down to insignificant levels. Of course, the dogs also assist in that effort. All of my cats are safely inside at night. I just don't see the point of subjecting cats to an unnecessarily perilous and stressful lifestyle where they are too scared of humans to accept help if and when they need it. I also know that mine is not a common sentiment in a farming community where cats are frequently treated more as tools than as living beings. I just hate seeing ferals labeled as unredeemable and untamable, when my own experience has taught me quite the opposite. My ex-ferals are exceptionally loving boys, but that never would have happened if I'd left them outside to their own devices. But at least your new girls will receive regular meals (I assume) for as long as they survive, and that's certainly more than many cats manage to get out of human society. Laurie...See MoreCats
Comments (34)Hopefully there is a TNR program in your area. this is the best way to stop the colony from growing. they will eat more than mice and snakes! birds, chipmunks, rabbits etc. they disrupt the eco system and the colony needs to stop reproducing. our cat, approximately 6 m/o was found on the rocks in Cape May. there was always a feral colony there for years, unfortunately. they would not except him b/c he wasn't 't born there. we figured he was abandoned/dumped there. 13 yrs later, Jetty is still with us as an indoor cat!! the county finally got the problem under control with TNR. now, all cats are neutered and the colony finally is dying off. please find a TNR in your area. call your congressman or committee/district person. they might be able to help or at least steer you in the right direction....See Moremoonie_57 (8 NC)
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